Best game I have seen in years
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Exhibit C was called a foul if that was Frank on the break in the first half. I actually think Frank may have slipped first, but it was pretty close.
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@justanotherfan Like you, I wanted to be there so I could shake Hield’s hand. An unbelievable performance. I also felt the same way about Woodard. I was impressed with the whole OU team…they are really good. One thing I reminded myself of though, that game was nearly a game and 1/2…so we should keep that in mind when looking at the stats…(46pts, double doubles, etc). But I am in no way taking anything away from anyone on either tem. That also applies to turnovers…in a game played that hard fought…even more impressive.
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“Frustrating that Bragg and Diallo aren’t ready still, but not bad for a group effort. I would have liked to see what Diallo could do with his fresh legs in one of the overtimes.”
Frustrating… but this game showed us they aren’t ready yet.
We can really use them, and it might be our real chance of winning in Norman if Cheick/Carlton can add a bigger bump.
I definitely am not counting on either of these guys to start dominating games. They aren’t worked into the flow. Unlikely they will this year. All I want to see is both of them adding a spark.
Look at Landen in the second half… when he came in and made a huge positive difference. He was the only guy on the court with fresh legs.
We need to utilize our bench a bit better in these games. That was the one HUGE advantage we had over OU and we didn’t use it enough to make the difference.
But I also understand that Self wants his top 6 or 7 players to lock down and flow together. They need big minutes together to get there. And we will be counting on upperclassmen this March, not freshmen.
Yes, that could change. That isn’t up to Self… That is up to our freshmen to pierce through the experienced play of their elders to show an advantage for them to be on the floor.
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Don’t forget that Jamari also had 3 blocks and the rest of the team had 2…He and Lucas really showed why they get playing time.
I don’t care what anyone else thinks but Bragg went in early and for the most part he looked completely lost and so did Diallo when he played. I understand that they need on-court time to develop but last night’s game was not the game for them to do so; it was a game for them to observe and learn…
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@JRyman said:
Self falling on the grenade technical so Frank wouldn’t get one.
That’s an awesome observation! He said it was his first one 3 years.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I thought he was talking about the standing ovation given to Nick Collison back in the day… if he did it last night, it must have been during a potty break. Or when I had tears streaming down my face and couldn’t see.
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@nuleafjhawk I heard it later on espn, he said he gave both teams a standing O. Maybe it was just words?
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In all fairness, he gave the standing ovation when Collison fouled out in OT and before the game was over. He has indicated that he had done it only one other time before and I am not sure he has done it again.
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This video of the fans giving Buddy his due makes me a proud Jayhawk fan.
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This was the best I’ve seen diallo, he stayed in the flow of the game and was unselfish. Big improvement! Might have jumped over Bragg who looked completely lost. I sure hope we have games to get them in. As much as I have praised BG, he looked so bad on D last pm. He could not keep up w/quick lil guards. Not sure what to think of ll or Hunter, each one has the opportunity to make a difference. I never would have guessed ll would be in the game during crunch time. I have a lot of praise for Mari, so did AFH! I guess if you don’t see it you don’t get it. He knows his role. As far as goaltending, they replayed everything on big screen and we didn’t see it, but we did see the awful calls we got, especially first half. I’ve never seen so much booing-Cept up north! Good thing they had security at half cause fans were really close to them and really hollering. I think somebody might have said this, but Higgins was the one who threw Hurley out at the end of a close game vs az. Hopefully ncaa is reviewing him!
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@wrwlumpy love being classy!
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@DanR 1988 14 bench points for KU, 0 for OU. We have a history of outscoring their bench!
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@JRyman I just finished re watching the game again - stopping, rewinding, playing slow mo watching much of the uncountable critical moments over & over again. I saw at least 3 Hawks-Graham, Ellis, & Wayne all take contact in the face or head - clearly above the shoulders & not once was there a monitor reviewed of any contact-. I reiterate not once. All of those officials need to get a reprimand & a charm school retraining class for that in itself alone. Higgins sucks & tried his ass off to give OU advantages the entire contest but all 3 of them should be shipped to the Russian front. Those clowns missed more ducks than Elmer Effin Fudd!!
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@globaljaybird I agree - watching the replay,I noticed contact that should have been called but wasn’t. Someone needs to suspend these idiots.
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@globaljaybird each team usually submits a video to the big12 with calls that they think are unexplainable. Then each official is graded out again. This can affect what games they do or if they are suspended any.
The problem is if any of them are suspended I’m sure they will get KU down the road and that won’t be good either.
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@globaljaybird My particular favorite is when Devonte is running down the court next to an OU player and after the play he had to rub his face after taking an elbow. I am sure that the elbow was not intentional but getting hit in the face in the middle of the floor should garner some official attention.
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@DinarHawk It was a great game, but with all due respect, OU always plays up to KU. Durant good? There will never be another Durant-like player. Hield is not and will never match Kevin Durant. UNC and OU two of the best teams? They have one outstanding game and they are two of the best teams? Give it some time. KU is consistently good. OU and UNC have more to prove.
I believe this will be the best game OU plays all year.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Exactly. KU didn’t play very well and still won. OU should’ve beaten them. OU failed to close the deal several times. OU is good, but not that good. I think this was a matter of KU having one of those ugly games and found a way to win.
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@BeddieKU23 Don’t complain about the refs. You sound like OU fans now. I get so tired of fans blaming refs. Hield takes responsibility for his piss poor pass and then says, “he (Mason) was out of bounds.” Really? I respected him until he made that last stupid comment. What difference does it make? The pass was deflected in or out of bounds. Hield over played and frankly may have lost the game with the in bound pass and the lose ball dribbling out of control which he did many times. Then fans and Dick Vitale want to hype him into some phenom. Here’s a test for OU…take Hield and see how OU responds, like when Selden sat most of the first half. Hield is not a pure shooter. He didn’t get squat against Mason. Mason shut him down for the most part. They suckered punched Mason all night long. The ref that called the “T” on Self watched Mason all night and called anything close against Mason, when guarding Hield.
The refs didn’t blow this game for OU. OU blew this game. Just like KU almost blew it.
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@nuleafjhawk Ellis is good. He played like a warrior. But he does play soft. He is too timid at times and nice. He’s got to be mean when he’s so close to the rim. He’s got to come up strong and dunk the ball more often.
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@nuleafjhawk Vitale and Mussburger got Mason and Selden mixed up all night long. What’s worse, they didn’t even try to correct themselves. The two are like listening to two old men sitting on a bench and forgetting what they’re talking about half the time.
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@truehawk93 maybe. I think they are this good, but the guys need to work on playing smarter and transition defense. OU had too many open threes in transition, and that can’t happen.
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@truehawk93 Also, I did not mean Durant pro potential. I meant Durant level college production. And yes, Hield had a Durant level performance.
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@DinarHawk Obviously he had the best offensive game of his life with 46 points. How many were FTs? I’m not saying Hield is a bad player or can’t play. He still over plays at times and let’s the hype get the best of him. When he learns to let the game come to him, he’s going to be REALLY good. He should’ve dished to his teammates more. I thought Woodard was having a really good game and was letting the game come to him. Cousins came on late. Even Lattin was starting to play better as the game continued. We are lucky it ended the way it did with Mason on the line. Kevin Durant is PURE. He did that almost every game. Hell, I remember when he went ape crap on us and we still beat UT that year. I think Durant dropped some 45 plus points that year at AFH.
My KU player of the game was freakin’ JTray. That guy is a beast. I’m so glad we have JTray. I love his blue collar performances.
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@truehawk93 My contention is that Self made it ugly by his rotation and not substituting.
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@truehawk93 I think we all get preconceived notions about people or things and they stick with us, sometimes forever and sometimes we get our minds changed for us. I know that it is widely perceived that Perry is soft. That’s been the word since he stepped on campus for the first time. I’ve never seen it that way. I’ve seen quiet. Determined. Humble. Team player. I’ve always liked Perry and I’ve said many times that I think he will be remembered as one of the great KU players of all time when it’s said and done. Maybe dunking the ball would be a good thing. But maybe it just doesn’t enter his mind. Maybe that’s not how he thinks. But I think he plays to his potential. That can’t be said for a lot of players - remember Andrew Wiggins? Shoot - he should have scored 30 points per game. That’s not an exaggeration, it’s what he should have done. Buddy Hield is, in my opinion, not as good an athlete or basketball player as Wiggins and he’s scoring, what? 28 - 29 pts per game?
Anyway, I think with all the hype of some of our other players right now - Selden, Greene, Mason, well you get the idea - Perry is the glue that keeps this team together. If he is not on the court, we get a lot of " L "'s this season.
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@DinarHawk I agree and as a fan I experienced everything from frustration to disappointment to finally excitement. And that was just in regulation!
