OK guys, leavign myself open here BUT

  • Guys, I’m opening myself up to stupidity, but I’m lost and need intelligent insight. I am sooooo confused of Cheick’s eligibility, people talking about clearinghouse this that and the other. This right here for sure gives away my age, but I’m 61 yrs old so let me ask or say, when way back many many moons ago when I was back in high school it was pretty simple, you took either ACT OR THE SAT either and or both to see if you qualified to get into college had to obtain a certain score off those tests. So here is my stupidity whats the difference now? seems like it should be simple, is these tests gone the way of the ages or what? they talk about rather this class or that clas is good or transferrable for him on eligibility I’m lost. so give it to me I know not to smart on this, but this ol goat looking for some one to explain, thanks guys ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

  • @jayballer54

    The NCAA is investigating the school itself. Without all the details into what they are looking at or what allegations they have for doing this is up in the air. Diallo isn’t being singled out though and his teammate was just cleared. But as a whole there is very little real info on what the hold up is.

  • @jayballer54

    Let me try to give you a quick rundown on what needs to happen so a player is able to play for a major program like KU from the academic perspective.

    First, the student has to be admitted by the school. This is not a problems since most schools have provisions to accept even low performing students as part of their outreach programs.

    Next, the student has to be cleared by the NCAA academically. The NCAA requires that a number of “core” classes be taken and and minimum GPA be achieved and if these requirements are not met then the student is deemed non-eligible, even if the school has accepted him. The NCAA also requires a minimum score in the admission test, something that is more difficult to fake (unlike grades) since it id beyond the control of the HS and the target college. What happened is that a large number of student did not get the minimum score in the admission test (big surprise) so the NCAA came up with method of having a higher GPA compensate for the lower admission test score…which basically made prep school popular since players can go there to “take” core courses and raise their GPA to become eligible.

    The core course and GPA are usually not a big issue for players that attended established/reputable schools or even public schools since they are directly controlled by the individual states. The problem is making sure the students took actual classes at these basketball factory schools and meet the NCAA requirements. In the case of Diallo, it is my understanding that the issue is more with the classes that the he took in his native country rather than those at his HS. Transferring credits from foreign schools involves other. more complicated steps…I know, since I had to do just that in order to be admitted to college.

    Once the student is found to be eligible by the NCAA, some conferences, such a the Big 12 have more strict requirements and even when a player has been admitted by the school and found to be eligible by the NCAA, he might be found not eligible by the Conferences and has to wait before being able to play; I believe this was the case with Jamari and Anderson who transferred and never played for KU.

    This is a simplified view of the process.

  • @BeddieKU23

    As I understand, the issue with Diallo is not the school or the courses he took but his classwork in his native country that needs to be accounted. The fact that his teammate was cleared would appear to indicate that the school is not the problem. Of course, none of us knows for sure since so little information is available.

  • @JayHawkFanToo Our Savior has had issues in the past with getting kids eligible to play so it’s not exclusively the coursework Diallo took back in Africa. Prime Prep Academy just shut down (where KU target Terrance Ferguson went last year) because their kids have had all kinds of issues getting cleared and some never could get cleared (Emmanuel Mudiay is the biggest of those names). Self said after the 2011 debacle that he wasn’t going to recruit kids he didn’t think would get cleared to play, so I’m cautiously optimistic that Diallo will get cleared at some point this year.

  • @JayHawkFanToo Nice summary. Let me add from the Jamari / McLemore situation:

    • the NCAA said they “partially qualified”, meaning either the admission test was OK or the GPA / core coursework was OK, but not both.

    • In that case there is a Big 12 faculty committee that decides on immediate eligibility. That committee said no, they have to study a year to be eligible.

    So, if my memory and understanding are all right, then Diallo could either qualify or not qualify or partially qualify.

    At any rate, as you explained Diallo is already a KU student under scholarship. He is just not cleared to play yet.

  • @Texas-Hawk-10

    Like I said, there is so little information that it is impossible to know for sure what is going on. I will see if I can find the link that indicated that Diallo’s issues were mostly relate to his course work broad.

  • @ParisHawk

    I believe you are correct. Obviously, the more we dig into it the more details that can be added but I was trying to keep it pretty simple. Mudiay was admitted to SMU without any problems but could not get past the NCAA.

  • @jayballer54 The ACT and SAT are what most of the student population care about because its the measuring stick most colleges use to determine if they want to accept you into their university or not. Whatever Diallo got as far as grades or test scores has been determined sufficient for KU to accept him to their university. Granted, athletes typically have a lower mark to meet than a typical student would for acceptance by admissions but if he does not get cleared by the NCAA, he can still attend KU next year and take classes, etc. Its because he is a prospective athlete that the additional criteria are being looked at and need to be found acceptable to allow him to participate in NCAA regulated sports.

  • guys,ijust want to say THANKS all replies are greatly appreciated, this stuff gets so complex, an ordinary joe like myself can get lost very easily. I again admit I’m no Einstein so I guess I will just be cautiously optimistic about the situation. I just hope they can get this cleared up BEFORE the start of the season. I feel Diallo plays a huge part of our success this year. Great looking kid , watched him in all the post season games feel he has tremendous potential , truly feel he can bethe missing piece between a very good season and an outstanding season. THANKS GUYS GREATLY APPRECIATED. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

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