Muck Fizzou
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Where is the “Fire Dan Hurley” thread? Lol
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@approxinfinity Hurley is more likely to fire himself.
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@kuballin10 Ok man. I for one NEVER bought into the #1 ranking. I also understand you don’t win titles year after year, hence I don’t get upset like you do.
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@approxinfinity Oh GOD forbid - - KUballin 10 - - help us ol wise one where is the fire Dany Hurley thread help us please oh mighty one
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We may not win another game.
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@BigBad " I also understand you don’t win titles year after year "
Unless your name is UCONN
Or Kansas City Chiefs
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After both Creighton and the slavers I think panic is reasonable. We now know this team does not win on the road
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@nuleafjhawk I’m a chargers fan so I can tell you it’s becoming obvious chiefs fandom arrogance and rediculous expectations are leaking over into Kansas basketball.
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@BigBad Nope. KU has been exceedingly more prosperous, more Conference Championships, more National Championships, more overall success by a landslide than the Chiefs ever have.
Since you’re not a Chiefs fan, you have the same attitude towards them that every other team not named Kansas has towards us - you hate them because they’re highly successful.
There is an answer to that - be better.
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From TOS which sums up Self. Self is 1 & 2. If anyone wants to debate it bring your proof and feel free……
- A mediocre coach can have a good system but recruits players who do not fit his system and then try to force them to fit his system.
- A good coach has a good system and recruits players who fit his system.
- A great coach recruits great players, forgets whatever system he has had, and develops a new scheme that would maximize the potentials of the players and forma a great team.
Unfortunately, the performance of the coach in these last two seasons belongs to the first category.
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It’s evil to keep shoving us in at preseason #1 every year. First, we don’t deserve it and just builds the hate against us because we get judged as privileged. I’ve heard us mentioned in the same foul wind as Puke! Second, I believe it thwarts our development.
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Wait, are we calling Self a “mediocre” coach now? FFS
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@drgnslayr a ranking from some media heads has nothing to do with how the team plays
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@Woodrow straw man arguments out to play today
State your case on what I posted about the 3 options or heck create a new one idc but something besides over exaggerating what was posted
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@kuballin10 What exactly did I over exaggerate? I used your word, did I not?
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Also, for the record myself or anyone else with a functioning brain doesn’t have to state a case for Bill Self. His records speak for themselves. People acting like he forgot to coach, is “mediocre”, etc… are just telling on themselves. It makes them sound dumb and uneducated when it comes to basketball.
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@Woodrow Fair enough
Last 5 years and this year he’s had 1 title and a bunch of mediocre by KU standards
This year, last year and the year before will be 2nd round bounces with blowouts
Do you ever remember a KU team getting blown out this much on the road???
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@kuballin10 First of all we have no idea what is going to happen this year.
Road performances are an issue, but I am not going to freak out about this year 9 games in.
Also, lets not forget about the COVID tournament being cancelled. That team was elite. It is not HCBS fault a pandemic hurt.
Let’s see what happens over the next month.
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I saw Rylan Griffen report to the scorers table enter the game and chuck up a clanker from 30 feet and looked bad doing it. Self pulled him and replaced him with a guy who had been tearing it up by going 1 for 7 on corner threes and Juan thought I’ll shoot 21 times because what have we got to lose? I think that Juan could reasonably make 50% of his threes and drives if he did it every game. Mayo might also when he actually has an idea of where he is going before he drives or receives a pass and quits the cute pocket passes because no one has been ready even once. Hunter might as well keep chucking pull up threes because as slow as he is on the fast break he will have plenty of opportunities and might get in a rhythm. Can we learn team defense and relieve Hunter and Flory from ball switching duties and leaving the lane completely empty? I really don’t know how good this team made up of talented ballers can get but it better get going in a hurry because our stats are mid to lower tier in comparison to the conference teams. I have been watching teams play hard on both ends of the floor and show team togetherness and it’s enjoyable to see. If a player dogs it and doesn’t big time hustle on every play you see them sitting on the bench where they can hurt the team there also by denying the display of their real talents. No one but Coit seems to get it from off the bench. Quit subbing in bewildered looking guys. Give Zach more of Flory’s minutes and see who wants it the most. Come on Zeke, AJ and Rylan you are scorers and not a waddle of penguins outside the three point line. Run into people, get your shots blocked and you might end up in a place called offensive rebound land. Foul out getting charges instead of making lousy passes. Show the scouts you are not a possible pouting head case. NIL donors please make these guys do embarrassing ads for goodness sakes.
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@kuballin10 ya believe Villanova did yrs back, just curb stomped KU
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@Woodrow This team is the same 3 dudes plus a little better bench
Winning on the road is the best predictor for neutral site success. Our Duke win was niicceee no argument there but if we get not just beat but beat bad on the road again that will speak volumes
That Covid team was nasty defensively but I think they’d ran into an offensive buzzsaw similar to those 16-19 Nova teams and gotten got in the final 4. They labored to score with Marcus Garrett at the 2 spot…it was throw it in to Doke and let him carry us.
We saw that final 4 script against nova a few years before which resulted in yet another blowout
Bill’s system of valuing 2’s over 3’s isn’t backed by data or analytics. NBA the highest level of ball has figured it out but Self and his Sutton ways are still stop easy buckets and go get them. This isn’t the 1980’s when the game in college wasn’t as physical or athletic as it is now. Go watch the 88 title game and then pull up us against missery and it’s night and day different on hand checking and shoving dudes
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@Woodrow I copied that post
Bill is not mediocre by any means but he isn’t as great as his record shows….kinda like Brady having 7 rings in a team sport but winning a Super Bowl scoring 13 points or winning another 1 where the entire playoffs he threw 1 td pass
There aren’t in my opinion many excellent coaches
Roy had his flaws here
Coach K had plenty of 1st round exits as Duke as well
That’s why what UConn did last year was so crazy just steam rolling the ncaa tourney TWICE
Boy is Hurley a turd though….im sawwffttt cause I wouldn’t want titles if it meant he was our coach….keep that immature, terrible arrogant man away from our precious/historic progrum
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From Matt Tait quoting the man himself….he’s 1&2 but not 3 based on his own words
Self said they don’t really recruit to an identity when they’re putting a team together. They recruit potential & hope that it can play the #KUbball way, with a premium on defense, toughness, winning 50/50 balls, etc.
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Some direct , very honest , strong , solid statements from Coach: – - It used to be you threw the ball inside to draw fouls and get free throws, that’s not the case anymore. You drive the ball, attack the rim – -we don’t have guys that drive the ball.
Guys not being comfortable, and until they get comfortable instead of thinking, they have to get to the point of reacting instead of thinking.
Did mention AJ , someone ask about AJ & Coach said he isn’t doing either , said Aj is not driving the ball, attacking the rim. He said AJ averaged like four free throw attempts last Season , he said this Season he is averaging a little over one - -maybe like one . two
Said we don’t have guys driving to the basket.
He mentioned something and just totally threw the biggest curve to me. He said and I am now totally lost cause Coach was ask about Shaq Moore- - Last I knew or heard Shaq was done at KU , would never step on the floor again, that he would transfe out at Semester - - So he was ask about Shaq , and said Shaq had practiced the last couple of days and was good, and they hoped thhey could get him on the floor. Whaaaaa ? - -what did I miss ? - -what changed ? He did say they wasn’t going to just throw him in the game just for him to get minutes, but said he was doing good.— I’m lost on Shaq’s role now, but sounds to me from what Coach making statement like that - -He isn’t going anywhere
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@SlimShaddy54 Seasoned guys from other legit D1 schools come here and immediately forget how to play? They quit attacking the rim, start thinking more than playing……
So did they forget or is this a coaching issue? I’d lament we have over a decades worth of proof it is the latter
For Bill claiming you drive it…we sure throw it inside a ton still and we don’t drive it. We also have a pass first pg who rarely drives it due to his athleticism and he’s pass first
Bill’s issues are roster construction and taking the dog out of transfers trying to completely overhaul their entire game. He’s in their head and adds the quick hook in games
He’s the reoccurring common denominator
Isu’s transfers aren’t having these issues, UK as well, Zags also…
Graham Ike >>>Hunter - wish Bill would have scouted the talent better
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@kuballin10 Good Night
