Recruiting Notes
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@rockchalkjayhawk Recruiting is nasty
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Recruiting Notes:
@BShark said in Recruiting Notes:
Things are getting weird with DP. Not good weird either.
Wait a minute! Farmer just told us it was locked and loaded for DP!
Sigh. I mean he told the staff he was coming. If he bails he bails
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Adidas needs to respond and get us Stokes or something bro. They need to do what they did when they helped us land Wiggins.
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Stupid high school kids. And stupider colleges and shoe companies for paying these 18 year olds outrageous sums of money.
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Remembe I said watch - -ANOTHER DeAndre Ayton -Oh he is a lock KU , KU , KU , don’t worry KU – and BAM. Arizona. Doesn’t mean w have lost yet but don’t be surprised, think maybe w need to flip some staff - -fresh blood, fresh approach-- Name of Coach & School not nearly helpful as it use to be- -Thanks to this fricken NIL.-----Wtch out USC is lurking hard.
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Read just a little over an hour ago - -Eric Bossi on his way to Napa for the commitment , saying NO decision has been made an from this point he could not discuss anything more about it. -Also read that Ohio State has thrown a huge bad at Peterson to come and play for Ohio State
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Wait wait wait I thought Bill is such a gangsta and is just landing studs left and right
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I love reading “Bill Self only won the title because he had great players” on one thread and "Bill Self can’t recruit " on another
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@Jhawk69 said in Recruiting Notes:
I love reading “Bill Self only won the title because he had great players” on one thread and "Bill Self can’t recruit " on another
Especially since the most feared recruiter on the trail is Bill. Does he land everyone? Of course not, nobody does. But dig into articles surveying coaches about who they don’t want to be up against one particular name keeps coming up as the closer.
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@FarmerJayhawk Since when?
It’s been K and Cal for the longest time. Now people claim they fear Bill yet look at recruiting classes and transfers…that’s all hype and fodder but the results don’t track.
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@Jhawk69 You are the king or queen of straw arguments…just pulling crap out of left field to try and argue who knows what
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@kuballin10 said in Recruiting Notes:
@FarmerJayhawk Since when?
It’s been K and Cal for the longest time. Now people claim they fear Bill yet look at recruiting classes and transfers…that’s all hype and fodder but the results don’t track.
If coaches still fear K they’re very much living up to the highly paid PE teacher label. Self and Cal continually come up, nobody else is really even in the conversation. At this point you’re making the argument that Bill can’t recruit or coach and at the same time his two titles are only because of good players he recruited. You’re just bitching to bitch.
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Death. Taxes. Kuballin10 complaining.
all in good fun guys. Have a great Friday. Hopefully we get good news this afternoon, if not, next man up.
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@Jhawk69 Now who could you EVER possibly be talking about lol - -now you play nice or they might just take their ball and go home lol
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@FarmerJayhawk Agree , but you know it’s impossible to have a legit discussion with someone who has blind vision. I think this is just a way this person gets off trying to insult the College, the team , and individuals.
You know some people aren’t the brightest light in the house , but this clown do even have a switch lmao.
I know from fact that Kentucky - – Duke - - & N Carol have all missed on multiple recruits this recruiting period- - Hang in there Farmer don’t let this toad get your goat. – -ROCK CHALK
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I for one think @kuballin10 brings up good talking points even if I disagree with his overall conclusions. I think the more granular we get, the more nuanced and maybe fruitful our discussion can be. I like how he brings up specific players and how they were handled.
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@PharmacyHawk nothing has changed on my end
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@approxinfinity Honestly I will second that to some extent. When he brings up DaJuan it just leads to an infinite loop where everyone wastes time debating something that is one-sided. But his points about the direction of our program and how we fare in the tournament definitely spark good conversation.
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@approxinfinity Now there you go thinking again lol— I told you to stop that your going to get a head ache
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Recruiting Notes:
@PharmacyHawk nothing has changed on my end
Bill is very confident
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Got a question , since they have done with the National Letter of Intent , Let’s say if Darryn does verbal to us - -I think that’s all they do now right? -is verbal - -Is there anything that could keep him as a commit to KU without him changing his mind afterwards and not having any consequences for it ? - -just asking
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I’ll also say this before anything occurs. I remember in 2019 being disappointed we didn’t land Samuell Williamson and instead took a local kid ranked in the 100s. The local kid turned out to be Christian Braun…we’ll be fine regardless.
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@TYOHawk This guys a little bit closer to us whiffing on Ayton than Williamson lol but your point still is valid
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@FarmerJayhawk Ok let me explain a little bit further.
Self was always second fiddle in recruiting to those guys. UK and Duke with Nike load up on talent. Now that those two have slowed down (K retired and Cal so bad he was ran out of town)….it was projected that Self is the baddest man in recruiting and literally THE coach every high schooler wants to play for. He’s #1 coach in college bball
Scandal has blown over so no excuse there.
Us losing DP would be tragic because of all the talk above
It is supposed to be our prime with the best coach, best program, best history and $$$$ via adidas flagship progrummm - 2 or 3 more titles with upper echelon recruits and transfers
Self won because guys like brush stayed and och/braun/wilson/dave
He struggles to integrate players into his system quickly so he wins because yes, he gets talent and they stay and develop. He struggles with one and dones which is typically what the portal has become.
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@kuballin10 said in Recruiting Notes:
@TYOHawk This guys a little bit closer to us whiffing on Ayton than Williamson lol but your point still is valid
It could be hindsight but Ayton always seemed like he wanted other schools to recruit him. Some kids just aren’t enamored with KU which is crazy to us as fans. But it’s how it goes. It’s why I truly enjoy rooting for the Zeke’s, Gradey’s and CB who grew up wanting to play at KU.
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@approxinfinity If I ever say too much just call me out and tell me to shut up. I can take it - half the board does already. I come to discuss the team and yeah I disagree with Self sometimes……
Curious to see how these guys gel and if Self can unscrew up Storr. Potential to be elite 8ish I’d say but I’m more that 32/16 range right now.
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The Ayton whiff sure did have some ramifications. Had to pivot to Billy Preston. Woof.
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I get recruiting happens - last minute changes - people drop bags but it sucks. Self has whiffs
Duke and UK (Cal most of his tenure there) - they got whoever they wanted and didn’t whiff
If Bill is that upper echelon now and “the man” in college bball - he can’t whiff in DP
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@kuballin10 said in Recruiting Notes:
I get recruiting happens - last minute changes - people drop bags but it sucks. Self has whiffs
Duke and UK (Cal most of his tenure there) - they got whoever they wanted and didn’t whiff
If Bill is that upper echelon now and “the man” in college bball - he can’t whiff in DP
Bullshit Coach K and Cal didn’t have major whiff in recruiting.
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Yeah most KU fans aren’t going to remember whiffs for other schools.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Minimal compared to us thus the whole Nike vs adidas thing
Go look at their recruiting classes - loaded year in and year out with top 10 guys where if we get 1 Wiggins or 1 Cliff we are excited versus them getting multiple top guys
You can argue for the sake and claim I said they never whiffed…which I said it rarely happens and they got just about whoever they want when they want
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Recruiting Notes:
@kuballin10 said in Recruiting Notes:
I get recruiting happens - last minute changes - people drop bags but it sucks. Self has whiffs
Duke and UK (Cal most of his tenure there) - they got whoever they wanted and didn’t whiff
If Bill is that upper echelon now and “the man” in college bball - he can’t whiff in DP
Bullshit Coach K and Cal didn’t have major whiff in recruiting.
Cal was getting his ass kicked by K on the trail for like the last 8 years tbh.
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Wiggins was Cal’a only whiff that I cared about.
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@kuballin10 “Duke and UK (Cal most of his tenure there) - they got whoever they wanted and didn’t whiff”
Your exact words that you’re now backtracking from because you don’t know how to deal with being called out on your takes that have very little merit to them.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah they essentially did. Hardly ever whiffed - we know they didn’t get Wiggs but that’s about it. They get who they won’t and anyone can see that by going back through their classes
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@TYOHawk I’d say last 2-3 for sure as Cal’s tourney shortcomings had Nike pushing them to Duke
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@kuballin10 Remind me again on all Uk’s & Cal- -all those talented one & dones refresh my memory how much better did then Coach Self has done.-- Let’s see Cal won ONE TITLE with all the talent he recruited- Cal has TWO overall , Coach Self has Two Coach Self Is in the College Hall of fame if I remember right- guess he might be doing something right.- Actually probably done more then Cal with less talent - - kids that developed for Coach. - -BUT WAIT - -Self can’t Coach , doesn’t know how to handle his kids so that cant be right.
iF you go back and look since Bill has been at Ku & Cal at UK not fricken much difference. Not sure you know or not but there is a Reason Cal isn’t at UK anymore, ya go and say well Cal left on his own - ya he sure did, couldn’t leave fast enough as UK fans were ready to hang him -can someone remind me of Coach’s record at the Phog is again. Not sure but pretty dam scary, how in the hell does he do that when he plays favorites and keeps them cause remember he can’t Coach - -He can’t develop players - - AND he plays favorites -BUT DAM some how he still wins - - IT’S A MIRACLE lol
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@kuballin10 said in Recruiting Notes:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah they essentially did. Hardly ever whiffed - we know they didn’t get Wiggs but that’s about it. They get who they won’t and anyone can see that by going back through their classes
Whatever you want to believe to make you sleep at night.
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We got him!
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@BShark Aye brother I might have to retire after this recruitment. I’m getting too old for this shit man lol
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@TYOHawk A lot of unnecessary BS with this one. Trilly, Joe Tipton etc all fed into it and played it up.
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When his mom walked in with that Canton shirt - -thought - - Welp lol
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He reminds me of Wayne Selden from the things I’ve seen
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Are we still in the mix for a top PG next year?
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@approxinfinity said in Recruiting Notes:
Are we still in the mix for a top PG next year?
Going to have to portal a PG
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@BShark Elmarko?
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@BShark What happened with Acuffe
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So who’s next ? - - Tiller possible ?
