Transfer Rumblings
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@approxinfinity Since 2020 I’d agree the sport has regressed in a big way.
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@TYOHawk College coaches always value experience so we’ve ended up with this terrible product of 25 year olds still playing while freshman have to transfer since they’ll know they’ll get played over and recruited over. It’s terrible at that point some players gotta give up basketball.
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@rcjhdraft said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk College coaches always value experience so we’ve ended up with this terrible product of 25 year olds still playing while freshman have to transfer since they’ll know they’ll get played over and recruited over. It’s terrible at that point some players gotta give up basketball.
Couldn’t agree more.
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Branham of 247 said on their recent video thing to watch out for Kansas with Javon Small.
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@BShark Pg1……
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Question ? - - Did we end up getting Griffin or not ?- --If we did then what’s the hold up with them announcing is transfer ?-- - going on a week since he was on Campus.- Yet have not hear anything announcing his commit. from the School or him.
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@kuballin10 I think everyone, including you, including Juan, will be much happier with Harris’s production next year if he is closer to the 25-30 minute a game mark than the 36 or whatever he was at this year. His defense can be more aggressive, his legs will have more juice, etc. We don’t need a PG1. We need a REAL PG2. Some say Zeke can handle some PG2 minutes but I’m skeptical there because from what I’ve seen athleticism and defense are not among his strengths. I still have some hopes of Elmarko developing into PG2 this year but another option to keep him motivated is a must in my opinion. If we get Griffin, the wings seem pretty set. If you have KJ, Store, Griffin, Kuegle, and Zeke all rotating through the 2-4 spots, I feel good about that. Obviously KJ is really only a 4 and not sure Zeke is really a 3, but the other guys have at least some versatility in there. Now, if Kuegle AND Griffin don’t make it to campus, we will need another 6’5-6’8 athletic type that can shoot to fill out that depth chart. But assuming they both stay on, I’m good with shifting some focus to the 1 for solid back up minutes with Philon gone.
I think 10-15 minutes a game this year with the opportunity to lead KU in the future is a decent selling point for a lot of guards.
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It does not matter whether some fans are happy with DeJuan or not. What matters is whether he plays well and helps us win games. He has done that for four years and will likely, as you pointed out, be able to play even better with a decent backup pg to gibe him some rest and some shooters and creators to take the burden of running the entire offense off his shoulders. Some people will not be happy because DeJuan will smartly play to his strengths and set up other people for shots instead of trying to score a lot himself, but like I said it doesn’t matter as long as he makes the team better.
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I am ready for the Dajuan Harris takes no prisoners final campaign leading the army we wish we had.
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@approxinfinity I’m ready for him to go 28 min, 14 pts, 7 ast, 2.5 stl, with less than 2 turnovers a game this year.
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@approxinfinity. If I may: “…leading the army we hope to have”
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@HoraceZontal no i mean the army we wish we had last year, and the army we WILL have this year. I’m stupid optimistic.
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I do not want DaJuan to average 14ppg because that means he is shooting too much. I do want him to cut down the turnovers and finish better at the rim. Stats don’t matter that much but just for a fun ballpark figure I would like for him to average around 8 points and 8 assists per game with a couple steals and relatively low turnovers.
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Basically 2022. We can all live with that if the pieces around are good enough
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@benshawks08 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@approxinfinity I’m ready for him to go 28 min, 14 pts, 7 ast, 2.5 stl, with less than 2 turnovers a game this year.
There is no world in which he averages 14 ppg. We’ve loaded up guys who can score because it’s not his thing.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@benshawks08 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@approxinfinity I’m ready for him to go 28 min, 14 pts, 7 ast, 2.5 stl, with less than 2 turnovers a game this year.
There is no world in which he averages 14 ppg. We’ve loaded up guys who can score because it’s not his thing.
Yep. Teams will be daring him to shoot. Which is good for us because that’s when he can hit them.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
@benshawks08 said in Transfer Rumblings:
@approxinfinity I’m ready for him to go 28 min, 14 pts, 7 ast, 2.5 stl, with less than 2 turnovers a game this year.
There is no world in which he averages 14 ppg. We’ve loaded up guys who can score because it’s not his thing.
Yep. Teams will be daring him to shoot. Which is good for us because that’s when he can hit them.
Yup he’s a great set shooter with space. But the scoring on this team will be done by primarily 4 guys….Hunt, AJ, Griffen and Zeke. I’d argue the hierarchy is probably set already.
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@approxinfinity that sounds great. I’m on board for that!
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@approxinfinity you’ll be waiting for a while
Not a round of 32 exit but elite 8 next year……to a lesser uconn team
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@BShark Nah he was bad shooting the three besides uk game and he actually won’t shoot them. He was left wide open this year and he only shot 2.1 a game……with more weapons around him he will shell up further
Our only hope is small and Mayo show they are like remy and Bill has literally no choice
For a hof coach and all his knowledge he sure builds lineups that offensively have awful spacing and poor shooters
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@kuballin10 I’m ready to hear you make excuses about why Bill won his third ring.
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@approxinfinity His 08 team was so stacked even Bill couldn’t screw it up granted it took missed free throws but that was revenge for the 2003 title game when we were better than Cuse but took the L on what 12-30 free throws
The 2022 was kalkenbrenner hurt, moore hurt, bacot hurt…remy and the miracle that Dave became Wilt 2.0 after everyone wanting him gone….unbelievable team effort and “want to” by the guys.
The Self chess move was second half against Miami that just stifled them.
The nova game we wanted it but nothing he did mu philosophy wise…we just made shots.
Unc we got way down starting out playing as Bill wanted. Second half the boys said screw it let’s get out and run cause we got no other choice.
Best offenses are teams that run and that’s not really a Self special. No wonder he likes sir walks it up the court juan
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@approxinfinity said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 I’m ready to hear you make excuses about why Bill won his third ring.
You asked…
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Danny and the Miracles! Nobody else! Get out of here.
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Huh TIL Bill was the coach in 02-03. Guess I should throw away all my merch that says Roy was.
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Not that long ago I was hanging out with one of my best friends who routinely talks with Hubert. She told me yeah Self “roasted him” but look maybe someone who’s watched UNC for 20 years and had access to the coaches for that long is wrong, I’m open to debate.
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Griffin just made it official that he is coming.
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@FarmerJayhawk 08 redemption for the programs falter in 2003….Roy was clearly the coach in 2003 figured that’s common knowledge here
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@FarmerJayhawk My uncles cousins sister hangs out with Self and Self says man we got lucky in 2022 with all these teams best player getting injured the round before we played up but dagum if we weren’t due for some luck
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@kuballin10 You really shouldn’t listen to your uncles cousin sister anymore. She has led you down a very dark road of bad KU ball info. May god have mercy on your soul :<
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@kuballin10 I think you are reaching here. You conveniently include all the things that went our way while ignoring the things that did not go our way in 2022 (Creighton having their best 3 point shooting game of the season and making tough 3s, Villanova doing the same, UNC getting some favorable calls from the refs). It is also important to recognize that luck is a part of every title run. If you want to make a strong case against Self I would suggest using the following points
A) arguing that he got us wrapped up in sanctions
B )arguing that with all the regular season titans and all the talent he has had he should have more than 2 titles and 3/4 final fours
C) arguing that his style of developing players over the the course of years worked well in the past but won’t work in the modern era of unlimited free agency
I would still disagree with you but if you were to focus on these points you would at least have an argument worth respecting. The argument you have now is just lazy and is clearly focused more on scoring “debate points” than on employing close analysis to reach any sort of truth.
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@kuballin10 wasn’t aware you dated someone that close to Self!
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Anyway, Griffen is a great add. Probably a two year guy too.
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@kuballin10 sisters uncles cousins roommate haha space balls reference
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Noah Shelby
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@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Seems like this weekend was a big dud as both guys didn’t commit as planned or am I missing something….
Oooooh wrong
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My wife keeps wondering who my sources are, I keep scooping the media. lol thanks @BShark @FarmerJayhawk et al who keep us in the know!
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
Noah Shelby
Extremely meh but not many guys are going to want to compete with what’s already here.
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@FarmerJayhawk Rylan’s friend as well
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Give me Javon clear Kugel and let’s ride.
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@BShark said in Transfer Rumblings:
@kuballin10 said in Transfer Rumblings:
Seems like this weekend was a big dud as both guys didn’t commit as planned or am I missing something….
Oooooh wrong
It is funny that clearly all the videos and photos were done, release was written, quotes given and all that. Almost like people knew beforehand!
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I keep hearing Kugel is gone at this point between his grades and guys we have now signed. Interesting that his grades would be that bad but he still played a lot Florida
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@kjayhawks I’m not sure on the specifics but can speak generally. Some guys quit trying if they think they’re going to the NBA. Then when that doesn’t work out it’s like oh crap I don’t have enough credits to be eligible without A LOT of summer work
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@kjayhawks said in Transfer Rumblings:
I keep hearing Kugel is gone at this point between his grades and guys we have now signed. Interesting that his grades would be that bad but he still played a lot Florida
This is a big part of the motivation for the new transfer rule that was put in place. After the first “free” transfer, a player can only transfer and play immediately again if they are in good academic standing at their previous school.
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Ummmm, Bill IS NOT PLAYIN
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We got Griffen, Storr and Zeke…I’m on cloud 9
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@FarmerJayhawk that’s is probably very true, pass first semester and then screw the pooch the second thinking you are gone anyway.
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
We got Griffen, Storr and Zeke…I’m on cloud 9
Yeah this version of Star Wars is called Bill Strikes Back
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@TYOHawk said in Transfer Rumblings:
We got Griffen, Storr and Zeke…I’m on cloud 9
Safe to say Bill was not pleased how last year went. Let’s hope all the pieces fit and we get back to KU basketball.
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Heard on a podcast Bill saying he was tired of seeing un athletic Guards-- - No more
