Generic soccer thread
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That was fun to watch. Never seen a ref wiped out in the first minute of a match before! Nil nil until the 88th minute, then 4 goals in the last 45 minutes. Amazing. I hate PKs to solve a match. It’s so artificial. NHL model of removing skaters from the ice before they go to PK’s might help. Even though it would have bit us last night, golden goal would eliminate the need for going to PK’s on some occasions.
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@wissox as a parent of a goalie, i live for PKs.
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Whew. Man. A great day to watch US soccer yesterday.
The women were dominant vs Wales. We can see the tactics other teams will use against them: pack it in. They will need to finish better for sure in that defensive quagmire. Early on I didn’t realize the girls were playing in my neck of the woods. I shoulda gone! I’ve seen them play out here in Cali before. Fun to watch live. The San Jose stadium is awesome for soccer.
Approx, the men’s game was kind of UGLY! Yikes. Aggressive. I don’t mind that actually. Fouls everywhere. Lucky we didn’t see any reds (both sides). I saw a few guys step up in this tourney for sure. I saw a few guys take a big step back, too. Like you, glad to see some guys make a future for themselves with the national team.
The game opened up a bit more in the second half. My boy Cowell was aggressive again when he subbed in. It’s definitively good to see younger guys get minutes in big games.
It’s great to develop depth, and that’s what it looks like this group of guys was here for. I was mostly impressed with the defensive units we rolled out. Last night they all had some suspect moments with their feet (passing), but generally they all showed out. That being said, Jalen Neal had an amazing assist last night.
My knee jerk reaction to who could and couldn’t ever make a US World Cup roster:
— All the defenders have a future.
— Maybe two of the midfielders. Mihailovic and Sands. Neither looks like a star though. Busio needs a lot of work IMO, plus about 50 pounds of more muscle. Sonora goes straight to DVD.
— Forwards? Jesus and Cowell. No real opinion formed about Gressel. Vazquez has nice size. Showed some skill. Zendejas straight to the high school coaching ranks.
A fun day yesterday. Off to the World Cup for the ladies!
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The boys lost tonight. Drat. PKs.
As predicted before he took it, Roldan crapped the bed. Oh well.
Even game. Both sides had chances. The Panama goal was a catastrophic failure by the left side of the US defense.
The US had a decent second half though.
Love that Turner saves at least one PK per shootout.
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@rockchalkjayhawk i predicted that Ferreira would take the first and miss. I was surprised that Gressell and Miazga were first 5. Miazga buried it top corner.
Thought it was a fun showing. We were outplayed first half, seemed out of sorts. We connected well first 5 minutes and then seemed on the back heel. Punting instead of keeping possession.
Kids will learn.
Enjoyed the run.
Loved that Morris got to be a hero with the header assist for the equalizer.
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Also once Cade Cowell learns to pass in traffic (if?) he could really be a dynamic scoring threat.
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Yup, I was thinking the same thing about Cade. The ball stays on his foot too long. Shoot or pass. Exciting to see him dribble thru a crowd for sure though. Just young. Hopefully as he plays with more mature players around him, they’ll let him know (loudly, probably).
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Ouch for McKennie!
McKennie has been excluded from Juve’s squad for the trip to the US, along with club captain Bonucci. the players who have not been selected to travel with the squad have been told to find a new club, as they will not be considered for selection in 2023-24.
Along with being excluded from the squad, it has been reported that Weston McKennie and Bonucci have been told that they are to have no contact with manager Massimiliano Allegri and to train with the youth team. McKennie spent the second half of last season on loan at Leeds, as the club were relegated to the Championship. Bonucci has made 502 appearances for the Serie A giants.
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This Panama Mexico match is awesome! Watching the spanish telecast which is way better even if I can’t understand the announcers!
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Who won? Didn’t watch. Did the US have a consolation game?
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@rockchalkjayhawk mexico won. Panama had their chances. Was pulling for them.
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Women’s world cup soon. USA looking to 3peat
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@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Women’s world cup soon. USA looking to 3peat
Yup, coming up. Women play Friday? Can’t wait. This World Cup I’m guessing will be a wake up call for the US women. Motivation will be required. The competition will be much better than previous years. A three peat is no guarantee.
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Ok, decided to stay up late to catch the first game of the women’s world cup! Zzz. Just realized it’s WINTER in Australia/New Zealand. Brilliant decision. Fire the idiot (s) who made that decision.
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A dominating 3-0 win over Vietnam tonight.
That’s the good part. Never tested. Never a concern.
The bad part…everything else. Wow was that some ugly play in the final third. Could hardly be worse. Passing, shooting, intelligent decisions all severely lacking (except of course Morgan’s brilliant flick assist).
Hoping they got the nerves out of the way. Vietnam parked the bus, but we shoulda scored many more.
Goal differential could come into play.
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Having a hard time adjusting from USMNT, tbh. Need to watch a real chess match to get engaged I guess
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Yea, and it doesn’t help that this roster is not as famous as with previous years.
Also didn’t help with that weird ass lineup last night. I get it, rest some players.
I likely won’t watch any game other than the US.
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Massive clunker of a first half tonight vs Netherlands.
Absolutely, and shockingly, outclassed in every way. Wow! Very surprising.
Their 3-5-2 ish system just perplexed us. Vlatko deserves a first half F for failure to adjust in any way.
Crystal Dunn was comically bad. By far the worst I’ve ever seen her play. Her passing was awful. Really awful. Plus she effed up tremendously on the first goal.
The second half was way better! Way better. The commentators believe it was because the Dutch lost a key defender at the half. They also switched to a 4-4-2, oddly. Why change what was working well?
That allowed the US some success in the midfield, and in pressing. They possessed the ball and had some good chances. A lot of it because my girl Rose came in the game!! Love her play.
Vlatko, however, deserves another F for his failure to sub in more than Rose. The front line was clearly done cookin, and Dunn continued to suck.
I know the Netherlands is good. A tie felt fair.
But now, with the Netherlands left with Vietnam, goal differential could mean a second place finish for the US. We didn’t score many vs Vietnam.
Assuming of course that we beat Portugal!
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@rockchalkjayhawk enjoyed Dunns defense and range in the second half. Havent watched this team much. Didn’t think she was awful second half.
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Yea, from the git go I was steamed at Dunn. Maybe she didn’t play as bad in the second half, but my ire was up!
And I’m never steamed at Dunn! Really odd game for her.
I thought Demelo did some good things.
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I decided to stay up late for the US game. Zzz.
Another ugly, ugly effort so far in the first half.
Just smiled as Alexi Llalas said the same thing I’ve been saying…”Crystal Dunn doesn’t look like she’s played soccer before!”
So funny, but so sad.
This team is just a giant dud in the first half. No life, no skill, no energy. They better pick it up next half. A tie is fine, but I’d hate a tight game then Portugal puts one in late. The US would be sent packing!
Portugal is just stuffing the midfield, clogging passing, dribbling lanes for the US. Vlatko once again has no answer.
Let’s go!
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@#$&*!
My god, as feared Portugal nearly finished it in the 90th minute. Saved by the woodwork!
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Whew. Escape! Time for bed.
(Rapinoe is barely playable these days)
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This team is playing scared.
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@AsadZ said in Generic soccer thread:
This team is playing scared.
Could be. Also could be that they just aren’t as talented as they once were? I dunno. Something needs to change, huh.
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Recorded the match and glad I saw the final while perusing the web while watching. Deleted the game before I read about the near winner for Portugal in stoppage time. Portugal played with way more passion and energy than the US I thought.
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They should appreciate being there, advancing out of group, and the rest of the way is house money. Don’t expect to win it all.
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Looking that way @approxinfinity . Fingers crossed they can pull it together and beat Sweden (?).
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Happy for Jamaica. Big win over Brazil!
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Ha. Absolutely incredible…I’m sure a few of you will sympathize with this sad (and anger filled) story!
With all my soccer posts, I’m sure it’s easy to see my passion for watching the US men and women play — not at Jayhawk basketball level, but close.
Decided to DVR the US womens game, as it wouldn’t end til 4 am or so in my neck of the woods. Couldn’t stay up that late.
Woke up, got the breakfast going, turned it on…then the wife walks in the room and proudly says, OH, THEY LOST!!!
Incredible.
Thanks, sweetheart, I’ve only patiently watched every single build up game for years, and all World Cup games so far to get to this point! She don’t get it. Grrrr!!
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Well when you can’t score goals for like 3 matches in a row, you shouldn’t expect to be moving on into the quarterfinals. Funniest moment to me. In the PKs announcer “Rapinoe knows pressure” just before Megan chokes.
When Rose LaValle got screwed by the official in the last match and given an undeserved yellow, the tide was turned slightly against the US. Not positive that’s a difference maker. But it couldn’t have hurt.
TBH, not hurt too much, the rest of the world is catching up to the US it seems. The only thing I question is how world #3 Sweden plays #1 in the round of 16.
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@wissox said in Generic soccer thread:
Well when you can’t score goals for like 3 matches in a row, you shouldn’t expect to be moving on into the quarterfinals. Funniest moment to me. In the PKs announcer “Rapinoe knows pressure” just before Megan chokes.
When Rose LaValle got screwed by the official in the last match and given an undeserved yellow, the tide was turned slightly against the US. Not positive that’s a difference maker. But it couldn’t have hurt.
TBH, not hurt too much, the rest of the world is catching up to the US it seems. The only thing I question is how world #3 Sweden plays #1 in the round of 16.
World #3 played world #1 in the round of 16 because world #1 couldn’t win its group. This is also why the game was in the middle of the night. Fifa built the knockout stage TV schedule around the US winning its group which would’ve had their R16 game in prime time in Saturday night instead. It also hurt Norway as well because they got a time slot that basically did the thing to them and had them playing over night Norway time.
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Well, just finished watching.
What a great game the US played. Starkly different than previous games.
Epic choke in the PKs. Three shots entirely missed the net? Can’t score unless it’s on target.
Rapinoe. ugh. Loved her early on in her career, but i lose interest quickly in anybody in any sport who inserts politics and BS into my escape and joy of sports. Good riddance.
A disappointing world cup experience all around.
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@rockchalkjayhawk lets go Jamaica!
Luckily my wife likes soccer as much as me. Telling you the score… well them’s fightin words
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk lets go Jamaica!
Luckily my wife likes soccer as much as me. Telling you the score… well them’s fightin words
100%!!!
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@rockchalkjayhawk Maybe she saved you some agony in the long run. Drawn out tension ending with a win always feels worth it. Losing not so much!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Thanks for the explanation.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I have no issue with her taking center stage on demanding equal pay for women. Actually, I admire her for taking the lead.
It will help thousands of young American women for generations.
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oh my!
Catching up on the post World Cup win news for Spain…
Seems like the Spanish coach and federation are up to some toxic shenanigans during the ceremony!!!
– Coach grabs a player’s boob (and lingers)! Photos exist.
– Federation official smacks a massive kiss right on the lips of a player as he picks her up.
Wow! Things appear different in Europe.
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At initial criticism he double down by saying something like people criticizing him are stupid.
A day later he formally apologized. LoL.
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@AsadZ said in Generic soccer thread:
At initial criticism he double down by saying something like people criticizing him are stupid.
A day later he formally apologized. LoL.
Insane! Maybe us simple minded Americans don’t understand the Spanish culture. Ha. Can’t believe they get away with that.
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He finally got suspended by FIFA, pressure was insurmountable.
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Got curious last night and watched TCU welcome #1 ranked BYU ladies soccer into the Big 12. Huge crowd in Provo and TCU had a 3-2 lead until ten minutes late when BYU tied it. TCU then proceeded to stall every chance they had to to preserve the tie. They frequently played balls to corner flag on their own side of the pitch and then controlled it there til finally it’d be kicked out and BYU would have a throw from the corner. Really strange to see a team just want to get a tie, even if it was against #1.
BTW it was the first action of any sort for one of the new teams against a Big 12 team.
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Watching Man City vs Nottingham Forrest, with Matt Turner of the US in goal.
Not going well for him nor the D. 18 minutes in and City has scored twice, beautifully.
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@rockchalkjayhawk yeah that Kyle Walker run passing back to one touch from Foden was clinical.
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That was awesome. Beautiful passing today.
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Just done watching US vs Germany. It was a very competitive game, sometimes. We lost, but certainly had some opportunities to score.
I was literally just about to cuss out Pulisic, wondering the last year he beat somebody off the dribble. And then BAM! He did just that. Excellent effort.
I dunno what the deal is with TV broadcasts these days. They never, ever show the starting lineups. Why???
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@rockchalkjayhawk i think Pulisic creates off the dribble well and has dusted many a CONCACAF defender. We can agree to disagree there. I was irritated Pulisic took a dive as well.
He remains my favorite player on USMNT atm. Love his composure. Adams is 2nd and 3rd is possibly Reyna if he can get out of Berhalters mental prison. Felt his play at midfield was a revelation before he got hurt and i dont understand why Berhalter didnt play him there with Adams out.
Our CBs just werent good enough. Old man Ream is too slow and Chris Richards too green.
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Ooh, that got me thinking @approxinfinity , who’s my favorite player. Hmmm.
I like Pulisic, too. Just seems like with all his injuries he’s lost some speed and burst. He’s in the running, if not my fav.
I really like Jedi. Musah is growing on me as well. Adams too, when he’s fit.
Jedi’s the winner!
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Holy crap. Sergino Dest just lost his mind on the pitch against Trinidad. Omg.
Pissed over a ball he tried to keep in bounds (looked out), he punted the ball 100 yards. Straight yellow. Then just starts mouthing off in epic proportion to the ref. His teammates were grabbing him, telling him to shut up. Multiple times. He would not. Unbelievable , but red carded for being a douche.
Tim Ream was just berating him on the field. Dest just pushing him away. Shocking behavior for a pro.
And seconds later TriTob scored.
