F*** ISIS
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@HighEliteMajor “Take no prisoner” - Reagan to the Soviet & Truman to Japan. What happened to our leaders? Obama declared ISIS was contained on Friday right before the Paris Attack. What planet is he from? Per dailymail.co.uk, “Jihadis sneaked into Europe as fake Syrian refugees: Killer’s passport was used by ‘migrant’ who arrived in Greece just weeks ago”. Do you think Barack the Brick now realizes why we need BORDERS? If he doesn’t, he will get many of us Americans killed in our own soil.
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@hawkmoon2020 What I find humorous/hypocritical is that you assume blame on the republicans and push our own agenda in the following comments,
If you want to stick to basketball, awesome. But don’t stick to a passive aggressive comment how another conservative makes a point and you simply want to talk basketball while making a political statement. Stop it.
Talk politics. Talk basketball. But taking the “high road” then taking a job at a political party seems a bit weird, \
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I agree it can seem hypocritical, but I tried to tone it down. Wish I would have taken the high road, and not input my little “zinger.” You are correct, and my bad, but I do wish more here would take the high road too. I do get tired of all the “Liberal” bashing here on a “sports site,” but my main point is this: When speaking about our political or religious beliefs, do we really have to throw out words like crazies, idiots, pansies, fools, dummies, nut-jobs, morons, a-holes, etc. to describe those we disagree with or don’t like? I may defend my side, but I REALLY try not to be outright rude and disrespectful to my fellow Hawks.
Back to Basketball. Rock Chalk!!
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@JhawkAlum said:
@hawkmoon2020 What I find humorous/hypocritical is that you assume blame on the republicans and push our own agenda in the following comments,
If you want to stick to basketball, awesome. But don’t stick to a passive aggressive comment how another conservative makes a point and you simply want to talk basketball while making a political statement. Stop it.
Talk politics. Talk basketball. But taking the “high road” then taking a job at a political party seems a bit weird, \
PHOF !
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@HighEliteMajor Yet another PHOF- Thank you for the crucial refresher in World History events. You are correct about real (simple) interest rates at 18%. Inflation was also at that same level, & revolving consumer interest, which was still governed by the “rule of 78’s”, was commonly in the ridiculous 30-33% range. I also recall how swiftly Mr Regan was re-elected in 84’ because of his bold leadership. By the time I was able to get to my location to vote between 6-7 pm. the election was already a complete landslide & effectively over. He was the right leader at the precisely the correct moment in time. We are presently needing that “tenacious & bold” leader to emerge once again, but so many in our Nation do not have the acuity or periphery to realize or comprehend the urgency & magnitude of our Nation’s dilemma, or the quandary of the World with relevance to evil that is continually spawning & morphing such terror with absolutely no regard to any human life. Apathy by such masses with special interests is something I have a very difficult time tolerating. JMO
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I’m older than 49 and I can tell you that fear of nuclear war predated the Carter era.
Ever heard of the Cuban Missile Crisis?
What was new in the late '70s? Not fear, but the lack of pride in our country after years of demonstrations, loss of a war, Watergate, the Iran hostages, etc.
Reagan, among other things, was lucky: the Iran hostages were freed the day he was inaugurated, which belittled Carter and helped Reagan start afresh. The first space shuttle landed safely soon after, and pride began to swell in our breasts again - two things that Reagan didn’t do, but inherited.
The French sometimes asked me what we Americans saw in Reagan. I always answered “he was the only President in my lifetime who, when he said ‘I don’t remember’, we believed him.”
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I guess when you can’t support the actions of your guy in the White House it becomes easier to attack the past than to deal with the present.
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Wow, I log in to read about my favorite sports team and get this. I guess I would have been okay with an expression of horror at the recent events, I echo the emotion… but still that’s not why I come here.
But then when it turned into yay Ronnie, boo Obama partisan politics… IMHO this is absolutely the wrong place to slam the beliefs of our fellow jayhawks regardless of their political leanings.
I can turn on any news media outlet and get that, I come here for the camaraderie of sharing one’s views on college basketball. Take it somewhere else guys, please!
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Without getting into partisan politics, we see what happened in France with their “open” borders, relatively speaking. We see a fellow western nation targeted because of their “western” lifestyle. If they counted on France to be “passive”…they counted wrong.
What is the appropriate response when your opponent professes nothing but ideological hate for you, and only wishes to kill you or your family or your countrymen? Do we turn the “other cheek”? Will we still be alive to be able to turn the other cheek? Do we lie down on the traintracks in Gandhi-style non-violent protest? I don’t think the ISIS train conductor would stop the train, as by us laying down, his job to kill us just got easier. Or do we fight, in the classic borne-of-self-defense/unprovoked attack (like Pearl Harbor or 9/11)? Will America awaken? France just awakened, it appears.
Do not minimize the foe by calling him a coward, as he proves over and over that he is willing to die for his cause. These aren’t people, they are monsters. You could also call ISIS pretty arrogant and grandiose, as they have succeeded in galvanizing one helluva coalition against themselves…(US+France+Britain+Germany+Russia+Israel, etc…).
Even the Pope called this a “3rd World War”. There is 1 little, small, but inescapable fact from World War 1: the US wins it, ending it. And that small, sordid little reality of World War 2: the US is the only nation on earth to have used atomic weapons. Twice, as it was thought the only way to overcome the Japanese fanaticism…it did that indeed, and thus the US wins WW2, ending it.
Now we have WW3? Aka, “jihad”? Methinks mushroom clouds may END this little jihad, if they want to start one. Make the jihadi martyrs line up with fanatical fervor–> then quickly, efficiently, and totally show the entire world that Jihadist Lives Don’t Matter (no matter how many line up).
Cinch-up that superpower helmet, folks! Its time. The world is too small a place to go run and hide. Plus, such behavior from us, just doesn’t make us look good. SaveTheWorldAgain, Part 3…
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ISIS is indoctrinating afghani children in the schools, showing beheading and torture videos to 4 year olds. There’s a PBS special that will come out about it called ISIS in Afghanistan. It’s incredibly sad. They’re also offering almost 4 times the military salary (the military salary is not enough and not as reliable) , to people who will fight for them. The people who are conducting these attacks were 4 years old once. How can we stop this cycle of indoctrination? Part of what is needed is a strong Muslim anti terrorist voice. And yes we can provide military support, but I’m afraid this will take a long time to heal and the situation is far more complex than we can imagine.
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@approxinfinity keep us posted, I’d like to see that. Awful!
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@approxinfinity I’ve a family member that served 22 yrs in SEALS who’s told of these very indoctrination a in many African & Mid East countries $ that it has gone on for decades. Never watched any videos & not sure I could, but just the knowledge of this should be enough to motivate one to be vigilant as possible in all walks of life. Even when I enter a restaraunt, bar or business I’m looking for an exit & never ever sit with my back to the main entry. Some of that is habit from getting in so many scrapes in bars as a kid.
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Also it should give one a renewed & true respect for the special ops men & women that put it all on the line every day to protect us from the bad guys. They are nothing but pure evil.
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@globaljaybird
I give thanks and prayers every day to our brave individuals that have chosen to serve our country. I come from a big military family and my God son is a Marine (currently) who will be stepping foot in Syria here in the coming weeks.
The pay sure doesn’t match the hard work and risk of life these brave people face every day. We are always quick to take verbal jabs at our youth for not being willing to make sacrifices and work hard… but here are the fine examples of our youth who do!
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@globaljaybird Also my nephew informed me that another extremely important element of the all about Allah Jihads is that they often pay their followers & nut case suicide bombers very well- with heavy doses of opium & heroin. Makes it easier to enter paradise I guess. What else do they have to look forward to? A full set of teeth & a new razor?
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@ParisHawk 2 Reagan was lucky in the same way Obama could have been lucky…but different approach, different results.
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The Iranians released the hostages the day Reagan was inaugurated because they knew that, unlike Carter, he would not have hesitated using force to free the hostages. Their choice was release the hostage or be sent to meet the virgins in heaven on short notice.
Much like Obama now, Carter had a wet noodle for a spine and when he finally decided to act, he tied the hands of the military and the ensuing rescue operation was a complete and utter disaster.
How about this gem by our leader in his statement after the Paris terrorist attack.
" I don’t want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this…"
This after it was widely reported by the press that the terrorists were yelling ‘Allahu Akbar’ and the President of France had already identified on the record the attackers as Islamic terrorists…
His press conference yesterday was an utter embarrassment and it likely encouraged Islamic terrorists to attack the US. I hate to say this but I am afraid that the next attack will be here, our homeland.
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I respectfully disagree with your statement. I’m not defending Obama, just pointing out some facts. Here’s another explanation of went down:
Behind Carter’s back, the Reagan campaign worked out a deal with the leader of Iran’s radical faction - Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini - to keep the hostages in captivity until after the 1980 Presidential election.
This was nothing short of treason. The Reagan campaign’s secret negotiations with Khomeini - the so-called “October Surprise” - sabotaged Carter and Bani-Sadr’s attempts to free the hostages. And as Bani-Sadr told The Christian Science Monitor in March of this year, they most certainly “tipped the results of the [1980] election in Reagan’s favor.”
Not surprisingly, Iran released the hostages on January 20, 1981, at the exact moment Ronald Reagan was sworn into office.
The “October Surprise” emboldened the radical forces inside Iran. A politically weakened Bani-Sadr was overthrown in June of 1981 and replaced with Mohammed Ali Rajai - a favorite of Khomeini’s. These radical forces today are represented by people like former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, hard-liners who oppose any deal with the United States and, like Khomeini in the 1980s, will jump at any chance to discredit the current moderate presidency of Hassan Rouhani.
The October Surprise also led to the deaths of thousands of innocent people around the world, and in Central America in particular. Reagan took money from the Iranians and used that money to kill nuns in Nicaragua.
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@HighEliteMajor To answer your question I am 69 soon to be 70. Make of that what you will.
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Has anything actually been accomplished in this thread other than ticking people off?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
Has anything actually been accomplished in this thread other than ticking people off?
EXACTLY WHY IT SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN POSTED HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
Can this thread be deleted entirely? It is useless here.
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@hawkmoon2020 Daniel Ortega. Communist. Different era, different time.
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@Lulufulu I respectfully disagree - I think it’s quite useful to.identify ideologies of certain posters that we may or may not want to discuss ANYTHING with in the future. I do agree that it should’ve been under gen discussion, but I recall at least 2 rats posting here came after a couple of us on a gen disc thread abt a DOG once when someone made a joke abt global flippin warming… A friggin JOKE! Lulu, Ive said it a hundred times- Some people have got something to say & some just have to say something. I fall into both categories cause the wife says I even talk in my damn sleep!!! Take a deep breath & relax. If that doesn’t do it, I’ll pm a recipe later to ya when I get home . We got HOOPS tonight bro… Catch ya on da rebound if I don’t get dunked.
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@globaljaybird
nobody says it better
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This isis thing is making me crazy! When I wake up all I can think about is isis, isis, isis! This discussion is going to give me PTSD and who the heck is going to pay for my treatment? We need to take this down before I go all crazy on my neighbor and beat my children! lol chill out Buckets! This is not the place to air out political views unless you are trying to poison our current body of posters! Lets put this post to bed! Quit posting here…
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Jamari Traylor would kick ISIS’s a**!
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@hawkmoon2020 Your “October Surprise” is all conspiracy theory that no one has ever been able to prove. In fact, CNN, far from being a bastion of conservative ideals, didn’t even mention it in their “Six things you didn’t know about the Iran hostage crisis” story. Fact is, Carter was told by the embassy staff if he allowed the Shah into the US the Iranians would take the embassy. Carter allowed the Shah into the US and Americans were taken hostage. The Iranians, even after a deal was brokered a month before Reagan’s inauguration, because they hated Carter so much they wouldn’t release the hostages while Carter was in office. Even Carter questions the so-called “October Surprise”.
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The so called October Surprise is the standard go to line by all that did not like Reagan…and yet there is no evidence whatsoever that it ever happened as described.
