BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT
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If he's not durable enough make him come off the bench. Save him for the 2nd half. IDK, maybe that means we're losing today at the half by 10 or whatever. But If he can't give us 35 minutes or so per game we're not good enough to win a championship this year. Maybe the loss of Elmarko made it more glaring tonight. IDK, but we were putrid offensively and defensively without him.
But the appreciation of Melvin grows and grows. This guy is just like a switch is turned on when DP is lost and he does enough to get us over the top.
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wow! i had to DVR the game, and was just finishing it up ... with BYU making a furious comeback. and the freaking recording stopped with 1:27 left!! WTF!!!!
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Bryson Tiller Highlights vs. BYU (21 Pts, 7 Rebs)
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@wissox83 these takes are killing me. Im glad we all care. And variety is the spice of life. But seriously, there have been many players where if we got what we got from DP in 20 for their 30-35 we would have been stoked. This feels to me like a āthis is different, so it must be badā reaction, but we just won 4 games in a row by healthy margins. Team chemistry is good. Other players are stepping up when needed. We should be happy with this team right now, imo, very much including DP.
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Darryn Peterson Highlights vs. BYU (18 Pts, 3 Rebs, 3 Stls)
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Well guys great win and yet I think we all know now we have our answer, or we all should know.- -With Darryn we for sure can make a legit final four run. -- ----WITHOUT Darryn nope no way, we still probably when a couple without Darryn BUT FINAL FOUR facing brutal reality without thats about the best we could do
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@rockchalkjayhawk unfortunately DP only played 3 minutes in the second half. You basically missed Melvin hitting a tough off balance shot to push the lead to 6 under a minute to go. We broke their pressure with a Flory dunk, Mari hit 2 big FTs and Tre had another dunk with seconds remaining.
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@kjayhawks2.0 sounds like a team win to me!
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You know after thinking about for a little bit Iām going to give mad props to this team and staff for not getting caught up in the hype of this game. 1000th game in the most historic building in the game, 32 NBA executives in the building, about a dozen former players including Paul who hadnāt been back since legends of the Phog, likely the top 2 picks in June with the possibility of 5 of these guys going in round 1 and to top it college game day was in town. We came out hungry and focused, looked like a veteran group that the moment wasnāt too big for.
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@approxinfinity If you knew me you'd say 'steve is such a pessimist'!! I really kind of am a glass half empty guy and while I want to try to see your viewpoint, the way today ended was a big negative for me.
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@ROCKCHALK2025 said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:
Well guys great win and yet I think we all know now we have our answer, or we all should know.- -With Darryn we for sure can make a legit final four run. -- ----WITHOUT Darryn nope no way, we still probably when a couple without Darryn BUT FINAL FOUR facing brutal reality without thats about the best we could do
Itās all about how the bracket plays out, I think we could be a FF contender with DP and would likely say S16 max without him. But it all depends on the match ups, we want to stay away from teams with 2 skilled bigs imo. I think we have guards to go very far not sure yet on if Tiller and Flory can play consistently.
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@BShark said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:
Elmarko is hurt as well (had a brace on his knee). Did we see anyone sub in the 2nd half after Jamari subbed in for Darryn? I honestly don't believe so.
DP sat at 16:46. After that last Tiller sub, the remaining starters didn't get a rest. Self said they were gassed.
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@approxinfinity said in BYU Beatdown game chat - 1/31 3:30 CT:
@wissox83 these takes are killing me. Im glad we all care. And variety is the spice of life. But seriously, there have been many players where if we got what we got from DP in 20 for their 30-35 we would have been stoked. This feels to me like a āthis is different, so it must be badā reaction, but we just won 4 games in a row by healthy margins. Team chemistry is good. Other players are stepping up when needed. We should be happy with this team right now, imo, very much including DP.
We finally got to see how awesome this team can be when everybody is on, and contributing, in the first half. I was actually thinking, holy crap, we have a hell of a team that could really make a run in March, now that everybody is back and healthy. I really thought these health issues were behind us. So it was just very disappointing when we realized late in the 2nd half that the situation hasn't changed. We can't rely on DP.
I don't blame him. I'm grateful we got to see such a fantastic display the first half from our entire team. But the 2nd half was a surprising disappointment. And people respond to disappointment differently.
We have a great team without DP, but we are frickin' awesome with him. I'm really enjoying this season, watching everybody come together. I love all 4 of our reliable regular starters - 3 have been a very pleasant surprise. We expected Flory would be a beast; Tre and Melvin are studs with experience, and the one freshman starter is finally growing into his potential. I'm going to enjoy the rest of the season with these guys. But man, DP is something else. He really elevates this team. We could have a special season if we could count on him.
So I am certainly happy with our team. I just fear it will end up as an "if only" kind of season. I'll enjoy it regardless. But if only Lucy would let Charlie Brown finally kick that football...
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@tundrahok Last week Arizona led BYU by 19 in the second half and by 11 with 63 seconds left and BYU had the ball under their basket with 15 seconds left and missed the winning shot. They came back against the #1 team in the country better than they did against us. Maybe they are just resilient and really good also. I'm not upset about their big second half. We were a mid 70's scoring team without DP and we scored at our average in the second half. Kudos to Jamari for his play all game. Eight points, three boards, two assists and zero turnovers.
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I think what we are seeing with DP is that his legs are strong enough to play half a game, but his injuries all season make him vulnerable. No one can possibly say the guy who leads Div 1 in first half scoring isn't giving it his all. But doing that comes at a cost of injuries. Taking himself out might be what Self wants him to do to avoid worse injuries and total unavailability down the line, a la Embiid.
