Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?
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@BeddieKU23 said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
Here we go again with the fatigue excuses. He has Shak and barely played him yesterday for whatever reason.
THAT was my only problem with Coach yesterday,- WHY didn’t he play Shak more and relieve Juan -that was kind of a head scratcher
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I have defended Juan for 4 years … if a senior and a decent foul shooter can’t make just one out two to ice the game at home, then good god WTF. He choked. Houston made their clutch free throws. They are clearly a better team than us right now. I’m done defending Juando. The three of Hunter KJ and Jaun whom I have rooted for and defended are not good enough to lead a top ten team. I love KJ but it’s a fact.
Next year will an interesting season for Self. The bloom is fading rapidly.
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@kuballin10 I’m not defending juan. I can’t wait till he’s gone.
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If Juan was the only player on the team to miss his free throws I’d be a little more critical BUT he wasn’t . He actually did fine ( for the most part ) did he miss huge free throws ? -Absolutely – yet so did others Rylan - - Zeke at critical times. I would say Juan’s eight points - -2/3 from the three- - twelve assists – & ONE turnover is a pretty good games worth should be good enough- -well for most it would be
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Yes all good points, but a senior who is ostensibly a team leader just CANNOT miss both. I’m not sure I ever saw Juan clank one off the front rim. Clearly nerves maybe combined with fatigue. He absolutely needed to make that second one.
Btw who is the leader of this team? KJ? Jaun is not a born leader, I think Hunter may be on the spectrum, his affect is weird, plus there is always the feeling that he is here really for the money. and as one poster commented, he is soft as baby s—t. Good bigs neutralize him because he is slow. Zeke is trying hard to be our stud god bless him, but it puts him in a position to force shots which look desperate at times.
I think my KU colored glasses are finally coming off. I can see them for what they are, including the coach.
I will root for them of course, but as they are, not what I (and most of us) hoped they would be.
Can Self afford one more year of another highly touted but ultimately under-performing team?
I’ve always suspected that his coaching style kills confidence in many of his players. He plays his favorites to a fault, and yanks the guys off the bench when they make mistakes, which makes for a non-chemistry team. Keep playing our bench, let them play thru mistakes, and it will pay off come March.
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@Bosthawk If the ncaa grants the 5th year and Juan and kj come back - dolla bill will really wonder why afh is so empty
If the 5th year isn’t granted I’m afraid he gives DP the Oubre treatment and f’s him up
Also think he loves Elmarko and “trusts” him which watch it will limit a top transfer pg we are in on. We will be in on 3-5 of them and if we whiff that would be why.
If we do get the stud transfer pg watch him sit behind elmarko lol
I’m so done with Self. He consistently ran the Wac version 2.0 for a decade and fell flat on his face in the tourney.
His style of ball isn’t ran by anyone in the nba or div 1 based on the players we have.
He and Cal are on their way out
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Lol
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I still am prepared for this team to get hot, get a good draw, win the tourney and make everyone eat crow.
Always possible.
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Well the sun came this morning friends. Which means it’s time to move on from this one. I just have one goal for this team moving forward, let’s just make the tournament. I think that’s the only achievement they are capable of making.
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We are a lock to make the tournament, so I guess we have nothing to play for
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Once you are there anything can happen. This felt like one of those tournament losses to Northern Iowa, Bucknell, VCU. Not the same circumstances but just how deflating it felt after having what looked like two leads that couldn’t be taken away.
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We got our tournament loss out of the way early.
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Believe me im absolutely hoping they get some chemistry and swagger. Many games still to play. I am a 100% fan. Just not deceiving myself anymore.
Speaking of swagger, I am a Maryland basketball fan because my daughter went there recently. I just watched them beat Indiana on the road… They’re playing fearlessly and they’re playing with absolute confidence and belief. They also beat a ranked team on the road a few days ago. I’m not saying that they will go real far in the tourney, but I’m frankly jealous of their fearlessness and wide open play. Their coach, Kevin Willard, seems to let his guys just play through bonehead mistakes and rushed shots, and missed defensive assignments. They sure as hell believe in themselves… Can Kansas get to a point to believe in themselves?
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Fun (or not so fun) with the box score!
But a preamble: OK, so most of us are steamed that we crapped the bed yesterday. Shoulda coulda woulda i guess doesn’t count in the standings. I’m really just upset in the way we lost. tragic.
Onward to box score entertainment…really not a ton of stand out stats this game.
Players
4-20
Combined FG attempts for LJ Cryer and Emanuel Sharp. That is a startling stat that should have meant game over for Houston. We let some guy named Mylik Wilson go for 18 points. Same guy that has had 4, 7, 0, and 7 points in his latest outings.
Team FG attempts
KU 30-66
Houston 35-73
Advantage Houston in both.
The rest of the shooting stats are similar.
Blocks
Bidunga – 0
KU – 0
Houston – 5
Odd that Flory was block free.
Minutes played
Dajuan Harris – 46
Shakeel Moore – 19
This really makes zero sense. Is Self limiting his minutes for injury? Personal observation: It sucks that Harris missed those free throws to ice the game, but that really was his main blunder on the day. He did let his man drive by him uncontested a few times. Both teams had starters play about the same minutes, and bench players. Eight guys.
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Only thing i would amend is zekes minutes. Shak should have taken some of his minutes.
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@approxinfinity said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
Only thing i would amend is zekes minutes. Shak should have taken some of his minutes.
Sadly, Zeke looked rattled a few times yesterday after the inbounds debacle. Shak for sure needed more minutes.
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@approxinfinity Shak should have taken all of diggy’s minutes. This was a big boy game and shak is the most athletic guard on the team.
He had a stupid foul that dolla bill harped on him for and then never put him back in. Comically bad coaching but I’m not shocked as we are going on two years of this.
The continual end of half and game reliance on d2 to initiate something might be the most egregious part yet which says a lot because we’ve seen a ton of blunders these past two years!
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Besides the superlatives and the dajuan hate i agree. I think dajuan did great. 42 minutes is a lot though. I would give shak diggy’s minutes, most of mayo’s late game minutes, and then i dont think dajuan’s tank gets to empty anyway.
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Unfortunately some fans think the loss affects them more than the players. Mayo had to delete his instagram account due to the disgusting behavior of some “fans”.
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@dylans keep hearing they are leaving and they are done watching, yet they are still here.
️ pretty low to attack players!
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Well I know one thing… I didn’t mean it to be, but I started this game thread. I think it was my first in all my years of being a board rat here, it will definitely be my last. Baaad mojo.
Possibly the worst loss in decades of being a fan. Is this the game we point to as the nail in the coffin this season, or does it motivate them to not let shit like this happen again? Iowa State on Feb 3 should be very telling.
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Good point… how does this rank on the list of most painful home losses?
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@approxinfinity I wish you were my next door neighbor or coworker. You have a great positive attitude that I just can’t find anymore when it comes to KU basketball. You are to be commended, sir.
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@nuleafjhawk thanks man! I talk to you ten times more than my neighbors. I wish you were my neighbor too.
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There was a lot of good things from yesterday. Flory is a difference maker out there. He’s one of the most exciting freshman we have had here and plays his tail off.
Rylan Griffen finally gave us one of those shooting performances that get you excited for what he could do in big games and he delivered. Had some big rebounds as well.
If we are looking beyond this season, both of these guys could be building blocks for next season
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@BeddieKU23 I just don’t think we will see Rylan back, the way things have gone I’m not convinced one games makes a Season change, on his part I think he is not happy with minutes -this game sure, but he has had a lot of bench time - -being yanked and such.
Could be wrong but I just think he will hit the portal again
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@BeddieKU23 Couldn’t agree more. Having FB start instead of KJ gave KU an edge against any teams, IMHO. Combined the two? Can’t wait till KJ is 100% again. We’ve seen them playing together very well. I remember KJ threw lobs/passes to FB. If coach can make best use of FB on offense, I’d say we can compete against any top teams. Defense-wise, he’s a natural swatter… and as a team we’re still pretty good - Kenpom still has us at #6 IIRC.
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@approxinfinity https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1009879827836310&set=a.410317764459189 A good friend sent me this
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
@approxinfinity https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1009879827836310&set=a.410317764459189 A good friend sent me this
If you all don’t do FB, it’s Kelvin singing DaJuans praises.
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@Bosthawk said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
Good point… how does this rank on the list of most painful home losses?
My first loss as a student came in '88 to Kansas St. That broke a 50-60 home win streak! Mitch Richmond was really good for KState and they pulled away at the end. All of the older folks started leaving early and we started chanting at them “don’t come back, don’t come back”!
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@wissox avenged in the tournament when K St fell to Kansas in the Elite 8 that year and Richmond shot 28%.
Maybe we will see Houston in the tourney and take the sting out of this one.
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I don’t care if anyone on here gets on a player whatsoever but if you take the time to message a player something negative or threatening, that’s right up KSUCKs alley. I’m friends with Zeke and Juan on Snapchat. I usually send them up lifting meme and such they respond fairly often. Juan the other night asked if I could deliver him the pork chops I was cooking. Told him they’d be too cold by the time I made it lol.
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@kjayhawks said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
I don’t care if anyone on here gets on a player whatsoever but if you take the time to message a player something negative or threatening, that’s right up KSUCKs alley. I’m friends with Zeke and Juan on Snapchat. I usually send them up lifting meme and such they respond fairly often. Juan the other night asked if I could deliver him the pork chops I was cooking. Told him they’d be too cold by the time I made it lol.
Yeah that’s awful to hear people do that. I would hope nobody on here is one of those who do.
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@approxinfinity Did you know that after losing at home to KSU, we also lost to Duke and OU that February and then avenged those losses a month later when it mattered most?
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@Bosthawk Wait… Are you citing a win at Indiana to try and prove something? Surely not.
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@wissox i did not and i love it!
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@approxinfinity said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
Only thing i would amend is zekes minutes. Shak should have taken some of his minutes.
Think he tweaked his foot on the missed dunk
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I also feel like shak was pretty meh in his minutes vs houston. He looked like he was playing good d, but that dude he was guarding was getting whatever shot he wanted and making them all right over the top of him. Plus he seemed a little loose with the ball more that a couple times. Could he have inbounded the ball better than zeke, probably… Remember how bad Och was at inbounding? Wonder how they practice those situations. Was certainly a mess. Maybe Hunter should inbound on those?
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@Bosthawk said in Feeling the Fieldhouse magic?:
Believe me im absolutely hoping they get some chemistry and swagger. Many games still to play. I am a 100% fan. Just not deceiving myself anymore.
Speaking of swagger, I am a Maryland basketball fan because my daughter went there recently. I just watched them beat Indiana on the road… They’re playing fearlessly and they’re playing with absolute confidence and belief. They also beat a ranked team on the road a few days ago. I’m not saying that they will go real far in the tourney, but I’m frankly jealous of their fearlessness and wide open play. Their coach, Kevin Willard, seems to let his guys just play through bonehead mistakes and rushed shots, and missed defensive assignments. They sure as hell believe in themselves… Can Kansas get to a point to believe in themselves?
Time for a friendly wager when Wisconsin visits them this week? :). I’m a bit nervous about that one as a I should be. Badgers are playing very well right now, but so are the Terps. Home court probably tilts it your direction.
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@BShark ah i forgot about that. Ok well if that is the case, then I cant find too much to fault in Selfs in game coaching. Pretty solid effort imo and we just didnt execute.
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Kind of surprised me with the rankings today. I thought for sure we would fall- --and we actually moved up a notch to eleventh in the AP & Coach’s poll both
