Dream Team 2024 vs 1992
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@dylans if Cal returned half the team from winning it all last time around and replaced those who left with even better players
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@FarmerJayhawk The 2024 team isn’t even the second best USA basketball team that would be the 2012 team when these guys were in their prime.
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@kjayhawks said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I think that’s a fair assessment, this years team plays zero defense to me is the main issue. If they played Jordan likely goes for 60 plus.
We’re also comparing this team playing exhibition games at less than full strength. I want to wait until after the Olympics to fully assess how good this group really is. Another major thing to consider is just how much better the rest of the world is now compared to 1992. Now, over 20% of the league is foreign born compared to less than 5% back in 1992.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 i’d be curious the average and median stats for foreign born vs domestic. I would be curious if the former would be higher.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 interesting… this guy answers my speculation. domestic PER is still higher. Its the top international talent, not the mean, that is great:
https://www.bruinsportsanalytics.com/post/international-players-nba
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@dylans these days our guys seem to think yelling “defense” is playing defense. I’ve seen some people say just wait until the actual games start and they are playing their hardest but I don’t buy that at all frankly.
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@BShark said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@dylans these days our guys seem to think yelling “defense” is playing defense.
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Now we need someone else to backup @FarmerJayhawk! I see no end to the debate!!! This could be a great (the greatest?!? Squad)…if they played defense. Do we have some advanced stat guy that can put together an obvious angle we are missing?
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@approxinfinity said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
@Texas-Hawk-10 interesting… this guy answers my speculation. domestic PER is still higher. Its the top international talent, not the mean, that is great:
https://www.bruinsportsanalytics.com/post/international-players-nba
The PER numbers he used were from 5 and 6 seasons ago and the difference between both seasons was less than 1 point which isn’t a significant difference in regards to PER. PER is also a flawed metric to base how good a player is overall because it’s heavily biased towards offense.
Back in 1991-92, there were only 23 foreign born players in the NBA. This past season, there was 125 foreign born players in the NBA. The Dream Team was largely responsible for the growth of the game internationally and a lot of those players choosing basketball instead of other sports like soccer.
The overall quality of international countries has increased significantly in the past 32 years and that gap between the US and everyone else is nowhere near what it 32 years ago.
The days of expecting the US to blow everyone out by 40+ is over. It can still happen, but that’s no longer the expectation anymore because the world is much better now than in 1992. The US should beat Serbia in their first game of group play, but they won’t have the best player on the court that game, Serbia will.
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https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/40638009/steve-kerr-team-usa-raise-intensity-paris-olympics
Kerr is right. Lots of unrealized potential.
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Btw Shayok of UVA / ISU repute was on that S Sudan team
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This lineup is so much better. Love Jo but he’s not right and the ball tends to stick
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Agreed on Embiid. Things looked way off the other day with him in the lineup, at least in the first half. black hole with turnovers. Second half was better. Maybe it’s matchup dependent.
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Embiid is…kind of bad? Bit of a flopping free throw merchant if we are being honest and the international refs are letting guys get away with a lot more contact than you see in an NBA game.
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@BShark well he’s also on one leg and led the NBA in PER last year
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Matchups are key for footers success.
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The team is playing well. Embiid played well the first half before tweeting his ankle and sitting the second.
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@dylans Is tweeting an ankle considered vulgar now and so bad that he had to sit out the 2nd half? Are we harkening back to the 1890’s? I knew we were becoming more conservative in the national dialogue, but maybe this is taking it too far. I guess the benching could be due to using a phone in the middle of the game.
FYI, I knew that you meant tweaking (not the meth kind) an ankle, but I could not resist.
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@patoh3 too much ankle for the Amish crowd
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@dylans Wilt would have been a combination of a Great White Shark and a Nile Crocodile!
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lol
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Team America fuck yeah
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What a game
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Defense is optional these days.
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Steph isn’t human
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STEPH CURRY - - is " THE MAN "
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Dream Team 2024 vs 1992:
Steph isn’t human
Still thankful he didn’t just heave something up at the end of that elite eight game lol
