Kansas Jayhawks at West Virginia Mountaineers ⛰️ Game Chat Sat. 1/10 11:00CT
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@bskeet News flash. the officiating did not cost us this game. we cost us this game
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@ROCKCHALK2025 bskeet isnt wrong that the officiating was bad but yeah, our play was poor.
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@JoJoAndMe i dont think Self will stick around, but it would be nice for him to not go out out on a low note.
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Well , not sure about you al but I think there is a legit chance we don't make the tourney at all this year. this team has so many flaws. We have Bigs that time and time again get their ass spanked over , and over , and over again , we have a bunch of guys that don't know how to box their man out , get bullied around all the time. we have a Stud that can not play in critical points of the game. - -- so many area's we look totally lost. -Five losses already and tow to the bottom feeders in the Lwague, Very easily lose thirteen forteen on the year. the time for KU just to intimidate other team for s win is long gone - --there are NO SCHOOLS that are just straight out afraid of playing KU any motru
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Both can be true. Officiating continues to be suspect. A 22-2 run is inexcusable.
Just watched the Michigan / Wisconsin game. B1G officials are not perfect either, but at least they know how to call it both ways throughout most of the game.
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The bench stinks and the bigs are soft.
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Tillers 4th foul was reaching over 3 of wv’s guys. We need him to learn quickly! This was secs after his 3rd foul.
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@wissox83 great Wisconsin win!
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@DanR I’d like to see more of Dawson, maybe not in crunch time. I heard when coach sent Mari in when he took his warm up top off he had forgot to put his jersey on. Think that po’d coach?
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Kohl is usually pretty good for boards and steals, and Mari for 3’s and throws.
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Three less treys and one less two and that's the difference.
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Reality check time. We have now lost road games to two middle of the pack (or lower) B12 teams, and needed a miracle to beat a middle of the pack team at home. Before today, WVU had just two wins against P5 teams - 7-8 Pitt and a 2 pt home win against 8-7 Cincy. After beating us, UCF promptly lost to Okie State. At this point, it's not clear that we have beaten anyone who is assured of making the tournament. Best win is against 11-5 Tennessee, which got spanked today and is also 1-2 in conference.
It seems now painfully obvious that we simply don't have the talent of the top tier of B12 teams. DP is an NBA talent, but he doesn't make his teammates better, or at least hasn't yet. I don't think there is anyone else who is likely to be drafted, including Flory. It's another mediocre portal haul. White and Council are solid role players and likable guys, but they aren't difference makers. White was a 10ppg scorer with Illinois, and that's really who he is. Council was a 14ppg scorer at St. Bonaventure against lesser competition. Same with Dawson. Tiller has skill and may have upside potential, but he plays soft and disappears. 4 pts in 14 minutes today and 4 fouls. Unfortunately, Jackson is a bust as a 5* recruit.
Good teams simply don't allow middling teams to go on 16-0 / 22-2 runs. The question at this point is whether there is anyone we will beat on the road. If not, we are looking at a losing conference record, 'cause I don't think we will win every game at Allen. A 20 win season may be at risk...
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@crimsonblu22 said in Kansas Jayhawks at West Virginia Mountaineers
️ Game Chat Sat. 1/10 11:00CT:Kohl is usually pretty good for boards and steals, and Mari for 3’s and throws.
Honestly I don’t think anyone off the bench is good for anything. There’s not even a Connor Teahan on this bench.
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It's getting to be a wake up call when you start thinking they are a better team than we are, TCU and WV have that big guy who can push us around and stuff us plus wings who can shoot and guards who can go inside. We can only go to Flory and Tiller with a lob and barely at that. When DP misses that many shots and the defense can sag because we can't hit above a 30% rate it's a long day. Also the coaching in the Big 12 is on to us. I don't know if we can fix our shooting and if we can't then Flory and Tiller will be crowded a lot. This is like three years in a row. Our few recent shooters were only spot up guys and couldn't hoop like Tre and Melvin. Ugh.
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Well then, that game flipped in the blink of an eye. We were up by like 8 points and BAM, it went downhill fast.
I think we have two major issues in recent games:
1: DEFENSE. The switching is slow and confused. It's not working. The guys are late to switch. It's leading to missed assignments, open lanes to drive, and wide open shooters. Self has to fix this. It's either on him or the players for not committing or understanding what it takes to play this way. We just gave up 86 points to a WVU team that shouldn't come close to that vs a decent team.
2: BIGS: They've disappeared. We have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA post game. Flory and Tiller ... how many times have you seen a post pass to either recently? Somehow Flory ends up with reasonable scoring stats every game, but there's not much emphasis to get either big involved down low.
We should not take a beat down like that to WVU. In the back of my head i keep thinking that like the Chiefs, the dream run is over.
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During the 22-2 run if we would have shot 100% 11/11 (if they were all two point attempts) we would have only broken even. They shut us down and we did not return the favor. Tiller was already on the bench and Flory picked his third right at the beginning of the blitz and they abused Mbiya.
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@Tallturd1 said in Kansas Jayhawks at West Virginia Mountaineers
️ Game Chat Sat. 1/10 11:00CT:During the 22-2 run if we would have shot 100% 11/11 (if they were all two point attempts) we would have only broken even. They shut us down and we did not return the favor. Tiller was already on the bench and Flory picked his third right at the beginning of the blitz and they abused Mbiya.
I want MORE Mbiya!!! Ha.
Just have him plant his butt in the post and toss him the ball every possession. that would be fun to watch for a while. Can't be worse, right?
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@rockchalkjayhawk I seriously would play him more going forward with his size. Tiller will be great just will take 2 or 3 years to get there. If only hunt had one more year, he’d great with this bunch. I think Bill thought Flory would better than what he is, which is very scrawny and under sized.
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@kjayhawks2.0 said in Kansas Jayhawks at West Virginia Mountaineers
️ Game Chat Sat. 1/10 11:00CT:@rockchalkjayhawk I seriously would play him more going forward with his size. Tiller will be great just will take 2 or 3 years to get there. If only hunt had one more year, he’d great with this bunch. I think Bill thought Flory would better than what he is, which is very scrawny and under sized.
I haven’t decided what it is with Tiller. He definitely needs more time in the oven. He can be smooth, too. Is it effort with him? (Other than the defensive lapses)
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We had a 8 point lead when Darryn went to the bench and then we just let them post up Jamari and Elmarko on like 4 straight possessions. What happened to my coach man?
