This commentator's view of last night's ending makes everything even stranger.
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Self said it to be polite, remember the famous “dick” move by BG?
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@Crimsonorblue22 How was it poor sportsmanship? His team was losing. I don’t blame him one bit.
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“If you get one chance in your life to dunk and talk shit at Allen Fieldhouse, you gotta just go for it. You only live once.”
It’s all such nothingness. We need to stay away from the PC etiquette stuff. In this case, P ost C arnage! We gutted this team like a walleye.
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@wissox Not just losing… They got their asses handed to them.
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@wissox IMO, the issue was that it is common to dribble out the clock. That’s what was going on. Sometimes, there will be a half hearted effort to play defense…but usually both teams let the game just end. Not a huge deal to me…but it did seem like poor sportsmanship.
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@wrwlumpy lol I forgot Releford came up to chest bump him.
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@wrwlumpy Weathermax!!
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wissox said:
@Crimsonorblue22 How was it poor sportsmanship? His team was losing. I don’t blame him one bit.
So I sure hope you wasn’t one of the people on Greene when he made his last second hoop and people jumped his as then. - - If you are then I’m sorry
just like people said about Greene this kid just classless again all Eranura needs to do is point to the scoreboard. - - Ku was just dribbling the clock out instead of doing another scoring at will like they had done to this sorry group - I mean ya we could of made it 114-55 but Bill always backs us off instead of running another ser - -kid pretty thick takes time for him to understand - -sorry you can’t see that
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Marco said:
@wissox Not just losing… They got their asses handed to them.
On a plate with a silver spoon lol
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No one has mentioned that Bill probably made it explosively clear to Tristan in the locker room that the greater sin on the play was thinking you can stop paying attention with 13 seconds left.
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@mayjay I think he was being polite, due to the coach giving up his first born in apologizing.
I know, just my opinion, but Self would’ve killed our player for doing that. I would’ve too, as a coach!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Actually, he did comment publicly about it. From Kyle Boone’s CBS article I just saw:
Self [had] called [Greene’s dunk] “classless,” but Friday he refrained from attacking Papas and instead pointing to the lack of ball security from Enaruna.
"We’ve been on Tristan the whole time about being casual, and that’s a prime example of what happens when you’re casual," he said. "I told the team afterwards he may be on ESPN twice for two dunks: One on him and one he got."
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@mayjay he said that on post game
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@mayjay I’m not sure we r on same page here. If one of our kids did that, self wouldn’t have been happy! True, he wants Tristan to protect ball! I think it was a safe out to save face for a very apologetic coach that we had thoroughly embarrassed and the kid had also embarrassed their program. Just my thoughts. I’m ok if u and others think differently. I’d die if my players or my boys would do that, but they’d never do it!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@mayjay I’m not sure we r on same page here. If one of our kids did that, self wouldn’t have been happy! True, he wants Tristan to protect ball! I think it was a safe out to save face for a very apologetic coach that we had thoroughly embarrassed and the kid had also embarrassed their program. Just my thoughts. I’m ok if u and others think differently. I’d die if my players or my boys would do that, but they’d never do it!
I’m with you - un-acceptable - -if people remember how people was all over Brennan for his act. – No different period
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@Crimsonorblue22 No difference of op on this! I was just thinking that Bill would have been more upset about our letting it happen. No controversy if Tristan pays attention and does his job. It is different to show up another team (Self rightfully mad at Greene) than to have a pathetic attempt made at showing you up when you have won by 53 pts.
Other coach: rightfully embarrassed. Self: Shakes his head.
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I bet Tristan doesn’t let that happen again, not that it usually happens. Well, KSU might try it now! Pretty sure Bruce wouldn’t like it, although wasn’t it Barry brown that dinked(lol gonna leave that) after the buzzer on us?
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@Hawk8086 I can see that viewpoint. But it just made me laugh when I realized what happened from this post! Still does.
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@jayballer73 There’s a huge difference between doing it when you’re winning and when you’re losing. No I didn’t appreciate Greene doing it then at all and still don’t. Friday made me smile, because as @drgnslayr said “you get a chance to dunk at AFH and talk smack, you do it”.
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You actually do see losing players give pressure during the dribble it out phase. And you see offensive players try to prevent what happened the other night.
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I hate unwritten rules of sports. Baseball is full of them of course. Don’t bunt to break up a nohitter, don’t steal when leading by x number of runs late, don’t walk across the mound. When it’s live action, do what the rules allow and don’t look like sissies complaining about it when said player makes a play within the rules!
A second part of this is I hate the butthurt culture of sports. Southerns football coach got all upset because the other team ran onto the field and crossed the logo in the middle of the turf. So a grown man starts whining because some college kids ran on some paint? NFL had to ban taunting because players who weigh 300 pounds and can run fast and is making 50 million bucks are getting butt hurt because some guy running into the end zone celebrates?
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I’m done!
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That kid is a first rate duesh. Bottom line. Not ok to do that at any level.
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@wissox think of unwritten rules as manners. No it’s not against the rules to eat with your filthy pie hole open, but it’s disgusting and will cause people to dislike you/the action. Same difference. It’s just a matter of respecting the culture of the sport. Unfortunately respect of others cultures/differences still isn’t without effort that some are unwilling to put forth. But watch, the culture of baseball is changing. More Latino players are in the game now and as a general rule that like to allow their passion to show, so you see more flamboyant behavior being accepted.
I suppose if every dickhead basketball player played hard until the final whistle regardless of score this wouldn’t seem like such an outlier. But dribbling out the clock is a mercy to keep the score from getting uglier; swallow your pride and accept your fate, a fate created by yourself earlier in this game that is now out of hand.
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I hear you on the “etiquette” in sports… which translates to “political correctness” in the rest of our lives.
What I find a real “head scratcher” is the PC crowd throws fits about things that aren’t politically correct, when it isn’t politically correct to throw fits about political correctness.
The politically correct way to acknowledge when someone isn’t following political correctness is to “raise your eyebrows up and down, either one or two times.”
It seems like the only time we are allowed to discuss political correctness is through comedians, since they have a free pass on what they can say or do.
With the powers invested in me (from myself), and through the powers granted by this forum (cough cough), I hereby ordain each and every participant in this form as official comedians! You are all free to smack anyone else on side the verbal helmet as thy shall wish!
Wear this badge with honor. Or not!
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@Fightsongwriter But it was a legal basketball play. So he violated an unwritten rule, but legal. I watch these games because it’s a game, it’s fun, I thought it was hilarious. There’s definitely two takes on this, I understand yours too. But I don’t fault a kid for making us smile.
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It was a legal play, and had he not acted like an ass afterwards, I would have little to say about it. Had he acted like “Hey, what did you expect me to do? I am the opponent!” he could have gotten away with it. But that “I don’t give a f–” was too inflamed, as if he thought KU had been running up the score.
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@mayjay I personally feel like he did it just because he didn’t want the game to get out of hand. Thirty years from now he can tell his grandkids " we almost beat KU at Allen Fieldhouse because I never gave up!!!
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In hindsight, Enaruna just shouldn’t have chased him – hands on hips chuckling a bit would have worked nicely.
Or perhaps anice tussle of the player’s hair afterword, you know, a demeaning, “great work Georgie” would have been awesome. Might have sparked a brawl, but still awesome.
I just like imagining what would have happened if a KU player did that when we were losing. I like it best imagining a guy like Anrio Adams or LeGerald Vick doing it. The short leash guys.
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@HighEliteMajor we know what would have happened!
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wissox said:
@jayballer73 There’s a huge difference between doing it when you’re winning and when you’re losing. No I didn’t appreciate Greene doing it then at all and still don’t. Friday made me smile, because as @drgnslayr said “you get a chance to dunk at AFH and talk smack, you do it”.
NO there is NO DIFFERENCE- - you just don’t get it. - -Classless is - - CLASSLESSS - -I’m sorry you don’t know how to comprehend it - you just don’t get it. - His coach was pissed at him - -which he should of very well of. You just got your as KICKED all over the court baseline to baseline and you think your slick when your TEAM which it just made the whole team look bad - -got your as kick inside out -upside down - -right to left – left to right - -just makes you look like ab absolute idiot but it’s ok maybe some day down the road you’ll be able to understand just exactly how claseless of an act that was - and then turn around and try and talk smack - - roflmao - lucky it wasn’t me - -I would of been like DUDE We just clowned your ass by 55 and you wanna try and act like a muffin - HEY at least he got the last basket - - lmao - -good for him - -wonder how it is working for him today at practice lol - -I know you don’t understand right?
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Fightsongwriter said:
That kid is a first rate duesh. Bottom line. Not ok to do that at any level.
Agree there is a couple here that JUST DON’T GET IT
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dylans said:
@wissox think of unwritten rules as manners. No it’s not against the rules to eat with your filthy pie hole open, but it’s disgusting and will cause people to dislike you/the action. Same difference. It’s just a matter of respecting the culture of the sport. Unfortunately respect of others cultures/differences still isn’t without effort that some are unwilling to put forth. But watch, the culture of baseball is changing. More Latino players are in the game now and as a general rule that like to allow their passion to show, so you see more flamboyant behavior being accepted.
I suppose if every dickhead basketball player played hard until the final whistle regardless of score this wouldn’t seem like such an outlier. But dribbling out the clock is a mercy to keep the score from getting uglier; swallow your pride and accept your fate, a fate created by yourself earlier in this game that is now out of hand.
Agree period. - -Bill was doing them a favor by just standing back and running the clock out. - -The way the game took played could of very easily scored yet ANOTHER Basket - -and this kid is a dick head showed his maturity - looks like he wanted to make sure he could ad to his stats lol hey I got two more points - - guess what sparky - -you still get the L; lol
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wissox said:
@Fightsongwriter But it was a legal basketball play. So he violated an unwritten rule, but legal. I watch these games because it’s a game, it’s fun, I thought it was hilarious. There’s definitely two takes on this, I understand yours too. But I don’t fault a kid for making us smile.
is it fun getting your ass DRILLED by 55 – oh hell ya that’s a lot of fun - -something to write home about. – Hey we just got our ass kicked BUT I scored with no time left on the Clock. – Class through and through
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HighEliteMajor said:
In hindsight, Enaruna just shouldn’t have chased him – hands on hips chuckling a bit would have worked nicely.
Or perhaps anice tussle of the player’s hair afterword, you know, a demeaning, “great work Georgie” would have been awesome. Might have sparked a brawl, but still awesome.
I just like imagining what would have happened if a KU player did that when we were losing. I like it best imagining a guy like Anrio Adams or LeGerald Vick doing it. The short leash guys.
Love it
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@jayballer73 Get lost.
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Enough guys! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Let’s move on!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Enough guys! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Let’s move on!
I thought in social media it was “Everyone is entitled to MY own opinion.” The other version almost seems like a polite anachronism!
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wissox said:
@jayballer73 Get lost.
oh that’s sweet - - so glad your mature on things - - it’s ok – most people look at it the way you do as a double standard - kind of like talking out of both sides of your mouth at the same time - -go ahead it’s ok - -have a great night
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mayjay said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Enough guys! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Let’s move on!
I thought in social media it was “Everyone is entitled to MY own opinion.” The other version almost seems like a polite anachronism!
YA MY opinion
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See you KUBuckets, it’s been real. One person here wrecks it for me. I’ll check back in 6 months see if it’s any better. I’ll miss ya’ll, but…It’s just not worth it.
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wissox said:
See you KUBuckets, it’s been real. One person here wrecks it for me. I’ll check back in 6 months see if it’s any better. I’ll miss ya’ll, but…It’s just not worth it.
you come on your own - -you leave on your own - -you have an opinion - - I have an opinion - -it’s called a forum - see you in 6 months then - -have a great night
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wissox said:
See you KUBuckets, it’s been real. One person here wrecks it for me. I’ll check back in 6 months see if it’s any better. I’ll miss ya’ll, but…It’s just not worth it.
You can block people. Makes their posts complete invisible.
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wissox said:
See you KUBuckets, it’s been real. One person here wrecks it for me. I’ll check back in 6 months see if it’s any better. I’ll miss ya’ll, but…It’s just not worth it.
You better not leave. I might have to come up there to Wisconsin with my hunting dog and sniff you out! It doesn’t get pretty after that!
I’m a comedian now so I can say whatever I want! Damn! Never felt this free before! Maybe someday I can actually say something hilarious and earn my badge!
Seriously… for my sanity, stick around and just be you!
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let me just say this on this whole DAM thing. - - you don’t like me ? - -that’s , cool – that’s fine - you don’t have to. I am sure your not the only one. Again that’s cool that’s fine – they don’t have to - -I’ll be just fine.
Thing is people that really know me , Know I’m gonna say what I feel - - -I’m gonna say what I think. - -I’m not some kind of suck up - -kiss ass that follows the leader like a little lost pup. - -If I don’t agree with something that is being said - -Then I’m going to let you know – I don’t agree - That MY CHOICE - -see that’s what sweet about America - - This Nation gives us freedom of Speech - - Freedom of Expression- - gotta love this Nation for that.
This is a forum , a discussion market. - people aren’t gonna agree on things - -see that’s the difference I can take heat - -but I also will throw it back - -so you wanna get into that -and get away from what the topic is - then so be it. - - You respect me - - -I’ll respect you - -You wanna talk to me like a piece of crap - -talk your smack then we can do that too. – In order to get respect - -you give respect. - You dis-respect me - -I;m gonna dis respect you - -plain and simple - -end of story
Hell you can even boot me out of here - it’s ok - -I’ll be fine - -AND it will just prove my point that being unless you wanna suck ass - -kiss up and not give your true opinion - the n it’s oh no we can’t have that - so either way - -it’s all good.
Yet one thing you WON’T see me do is run - and make remarks about how your leaving. - -I’ll put my big boy pants on and take it like an adult – I don’t have time for JR High games - that’s been long time ago - -I’m going to continue to speak how I feel - -when I feel - -where I feel & Why I feel - take it – or leave it - -either way I’m gonna sleep just fine.
Again I KNOW there are people here that don’t like me - - -to which I’ll respond – -AND ? - -The Sun still gonna come up in the East - - and still sit in the West - Hell there are people on here that RUIN it for me too - but it is what it is -I’m not leaving because of that - -boot me out? - -Go ahead - -either way I’ll still sleep just fine - There are some really informational people on here - -that makes it nice - - then on the OTHER hand - - -
So now go ahead blast away knock yourself out - - that gets you off then by all means - - I’ll be right here - -we can continue with this bullshit - - OR we can get on with the forum - -where people can speak how they really feel/think and not worry about stepping on someone’s toes. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@drgnslayr @wissox I second it. Don’t let one person ruin it for you. We disagree often but we show respect. Hang in with us, could be a special year, want to share it w/you!
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BShark said:
You can block people. Makes their posts complete invisible.
Hey! It works! I just blocked Washington DC! No more asinine politics until after the election! …or better, EVER!
X - Funny
X - Not Funny
I gotsta know!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@drgnslayr @wissox I second it. Don’t let one person ruin it for you. We disagree often but we show respect. Hang in with us, could be a special year, want to share it w/you!
Wish I could see some of what you talk about. - - - RESPECT. - -again you give respect - -you get respect
