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BShark said:
I’m not sure if Bill is a top defensive coach anymore tbh. Beard and Bennett are definitely better.
I’m not sure if Coach really has EVER been an elite defensive Coach - -feel like he is more offensive mind set , could be wrong
I just keep thinking back about how many countless times I have seen wide open - - WIDE OPEN un-contested3’s from the corner - have seen our guards get beatin off the drive - not only our guards but our wings too.
Seen to many times we got beatin on the boards by not doing the fundamentals of the game - -boxing out - -getting beat on the boards when we had no business being beat. - - personally wonder exactly how much emphasis he spends on the defensive end - again could be wrong – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Tony is the master of BAD BALL!
His defense sparkles even when taking the air out of the ball. Most teams focusing on defense push some tempo to try to speed up the other teams’ offense. Doesn’t matter for Tony. His guys are individually coached on how to defend and then also on how to defend as a team. No gimmicks necessary, just good ol’ technique!
I would take him all day long if he wanted to come to Kansas.
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Bennett is a great coach, but his style has a huge flaw that other systems don’t have. His style creates low possession games which creates less margin for error for his teams. This is what led to the UMBC upset. If UVA has an offnight shooting or the other team makes shots which tends to happen in the NCAA tournament, his teams have a history of going home early.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 his run last year did require a lot of good things to happen in a lot of games. But would it be delusion to hope that Kansas could field a team that wouldn’t have to fight hard the whole way to win the tourney?
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@approxinfinity most runs require several breaks in truth. @Texas-Hawk-10 is right about running into a hot shooting team but we have also ran into having a good offensive team and lost.
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When you see scores like that, it reminds me of Ben Howland teams. He was also a coveted coach… until he wasn’t. That style got tiresome… it wins games for a while, but I don’t think you can hang your hat on it if you want to be a hall of famer.
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Wow KSUCK need OT to beat UNLV on the road.
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@kjayhawks watching Oklahoma bb now. Close game. Maniac doesn’t appear to have hit the weight room.
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kjayhawks said:
Wow KSUCK need OT to beat UNLV on the road.
They struggled with NDSU game one. League sucks tbh.
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In football we aren’t the worse power 5 school this year. Arkansas got beat at home by Western Kentucky 45 to 19. Wow
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@BShark pretty happy KSU lost their fb game! I been hearing about it. Showed no mercy on me, plus the duke fans too. A duke fan that graduated from KSU.
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@Crimsonorblue22 most KSU fans have other teams in basketball like WSU or Dook. I hope they lose every game in every sport. Our women’s soccer team will play tomorrow vs TCU for the Big 12 tournament title.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’m watching DG and Hornets. He just nailed a 3 at the end of the 3rd to give him 18 so far.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark pretty happy KSU lost their fb game! I been hearing about it. Showed no mercy on me, plus the duke fans too. A duke fan that graduated from KSU.
️Lol, absolute trash.
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kjayhawks said:
@Crimsonorblue22 most KSU fans have other teams in basketball like WSU or Dook. I hope they lose every game in every sport. Our women’s soccer team will play tomorrow vs TCU for the Big 12 tournament title.
You might appreciate my recent twitter work sir
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@kjayhawks what channel?
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@BShark haha
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’m watching on an app with a friends password don’t believe it’s on local.
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jayballer73 said:
nuleafjhawk said:
WAIT!! OH------MY GAWD…JUMPIN JEEE HO SO FAT-
BENNETT WON …7 MONTHS AGO ------ SELF WON ----HOLY SMOKE --------------------------12 YEARS AGO.
If you don’t think Bennett is a good coach - you might want to re-think that. You don’t hear me and others saying that we want him to replace Self - just that he’s a damn good coach. Get over yourself. as a famous individual said - -" JUMPIN GEE HOSSA FATS – - -OH – MY GAWD - - do you really think people care how long ago the title was one whether it ws yesterday or the day before yesterday - -it STILL is ONE CHAMPIONSHIP - -SPARKY. lmao
Coach Self has help at minimum place at least 23 players in the NBA - - Coach Self in the time he has been here has like you so quite nicely wanted to point out - - Self has EIGHT - -let me type it again so even you get it - -EIGHT 30 plus win Seasons - - Bennet ummm not so much - - - four, - -I’ve heard people o here saying they would like to see Bennet Coach here - -just fricken insane - -his fricken style of ball is like watching the FRICKIN GRASS GROW - -snooze ball - -you want to watch/support that style of ball in the years of 2,000 here is an idea subscribe to the ACC network and knock yourself out.
Bennett is no Coach Self - -I don’t give a rats ass whether one year ago - or twenty years ago - -A Championship last year is no more valuable then 10 it’s STILL just ONE NCAA Championship - -get over yourself roflmfao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - - OH , OH , OH – wait oh ya - -have a great night
That’s what I like about you @jayballer73, your tendency to hold back Lol… It makes Coach Marco want - just for fun! - to bring back the Marcus Garrett discussion.
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jayballer73 said:
DCHawker said:
@nuleafjhawk I’m not sure what @jayballer73 's problem is, but if Self were to leave, I agree with you and would definitely have Bennett number 1 on the list to replace. Without a doubt one of the best half dozen or so coaches in the game right now. Gets his players to commit to playing suffocating defense every possession of every game. Has won consistently without as much top tier talent as teams the Cavaliers face most nights in conference games (although the talent level has picked up the past few years). He’s had 13 players drafted - 3 last year.
And, there is the small matter of being the most recently minted NCAA champion. Even more impressive in some respects is the fact that the Cavaliers have won the ACC regular season title 4 of the past 6 years - in a much, much tougher conference (certainly at the top) year in and year out than the B12.
I don’t give a rats as about aesthetics myself - in fact, I enjoy watching teams struggling to score against them and routinely getting shot clock violations. And, Self likes to win ugly games, as well.
It’s not a matter of choosing Bennett over Self or saying he is a better coach - but rather, who would be on the very short list of candidates to replace him. I have zero doubt that Bennett would be very successful at KU. Whether we could get him if Self left is another matter…
ummm HELLO you read? - - - like he pointed out him self - - we are not talking about who replacing who if who was to leave - - maybe start back at the 1st of this and see where it said anything about replacing lol - - -My problem with people like yourself almost coming the way it comes across is that trying to say Bobby Bennet is better so save the bs HAVE A GREAT NIGHT
I don’t want Self to go anywhere, but if he did my first choice would be Archie Miller.
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It’s always Brad Stevens with me…but that ain’t happening.
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I’m totally in on Chris Beard if we needed a replacement. A sleeper? Billy Donovan if he wants to return to college.
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@HighEliteMajor Beard is amazing so far.
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dylans said:
It’s always Brad Stevens with me…but that ain’t happening.
Brad Stevens would be – very nice
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HighEliteMajor said:
I’m totally in on Chris Beard if we needed a replacement. A sleeper? Billy Donovan if he wants to return to college.
good choices also - - - - for the life of me I can’t think of the coach’s name at this minute - -I hate that - -But think his name is Mack? - -Louisville Coach hats has been there a couple of yrs now - -kinda like him too
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@jayballer73 Chris Mack
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No thank you with Mack, 67% win percentage in crap conference with Xavier. I’m plenty Good passing that by, not to mention several of his players that seemed to be actual gangsters and trouble makers. The next coach here won’t touch Bill Self’s regular season success and I’m ok with that as long as we can have more post season success. I’d gladly trade half the conference regular season titles for 2 NCs. Just win at home and win the conference more often than not. Current college coaches I’d like in no order are Jay Wright, Tony Bennett and Chris Beard. If NBA coaches Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan would consider a return I’d be fine with either of them.
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The problem as I see it is winning less conference titles doesn’t mean you’ll win more national titles. It’s just a sign you’re in the hunt. Roy won half as many conference titles, but that didn’t seem to help him win any national championships at KU. The only way KU wins more is to either recruit overwhelming talent or get the tournament switched from double elimination so the best team has a better chance of winning. Neither of these are likely to happen, so I’ve stopped staking my happiness/ judging the success of the team by national accolades and more on how they perform and improve during the season and the players careers.
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From my point of view, my only true satisfaction with a KU season is a national title. With our program, that’s how it is with me. We’re a blue blood, and we’re not a “fallen on hard times” blue blood. That doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy the ride (as so many used to pound on me about). I do. But when we lose our last game in the tourney, it sucks, and it is a season unfulfilled. Glad to be spoiled.
As for @kjayhawks trade off – half of our conference titles for two national championships. Yea, that’s an easy trade. Not sure the basketball gods would make that trade with us, though. Conference titles should not be the focus. I, for one, am very glad the streak is over. The streak was a very big distraction. Nice to win, of course, pretty cool, but something that grew bigger is scope – and was a distraction from the real mountain top. The sense of relief of each team reaching that goal, not being the one to break the streak – I think – impacted the tourney mindset. The focus. At least some.
This team can win the NC this season. No doubt. I think I post that every season. Blessed to be a KU fan. It’s great to always be in the hunt.
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kjayhawks said:
No thank you with Mack, 67% win percentage in crap conference with Xavier. I’m plenty Good passing that by, not to mention several of his players that seemed to be actual gangsters and trouble makers. The next coach here won’t touch Bill Self’s regular season success and I’m ok with that as long as we can have more post season success. I’d gladly trade half the conference regular season titles for 2 NCs. Just win at home and win the conference more often than not. Current college coaches I’d like in no order are Jay Wright, Tony Bennett and Chris Beard. If NBA coaches Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan would consider a return I’d be fine with either of them.
Mack seems to be doing quite nicely at Louisiville - -and sure seems to be recruiting a hell of a lot better then we are at present
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@jayballer73 he was like 20-14 last year, his only year at Louisville. No thanks
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Mack has a top 5 team this year, and a top 10 recruiting class. He is a fine coach, and would be on the short list if Needed.
