Putting the NCAA on Notice!
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@tis4tim lady
Smart lady!
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Thanks, Crim! I love that word. Iāve been fortunate to visit the Louisiana Cajun area a number of times and thatās where I learned it.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@tis4tim lady
Smart lady!Ugh! No wonder I donāt know ālagniappeā. I donāt even know the gender of some of our posters!
My apologies @bcjayhawk. Iāll try to do better next time!
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mayjay said:
@tis4tim I tried in vain to remember if it was in any vocabulary lessons in high school. I remember āangstā and ādystopiaāāI even remember āantidisestabishmentarianismāābut not that one!
Twain mentions it in āLife On The Mississippiā, apparently. I thought I read that as a youth, but I either didnāt read it, skimmed over the word entirely or maybe thought it was a publisher typo.
Still, not a word one might readily come by, unless you live in Louisiana ā¦ or seriously love Mark Twain.
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@justanotherfan I must be the most naive guy on the planet. I havenāt read all of the āracialā posts word for word, but I am literally in shock. This stuff is still that prevalent? I canāt believe it.
Iām white, but Iāve had many friends over the years that were not. Mostly black and hispanic. I donāt know what Brandon and Tim were selling, but Itās never crossed my mind not to buy something - car, house, groceries, whatever it is iām buying - from someone just because they are another race. Thatās CRAZY.
Just curious - are you guys in the midwest? Like I said, maybe i have my head in the sand, or maybe itās different in other parts of the country/world.
Thatās a sad, sad thing to not like someone for the color of their skin. (of course my twisted mind wants to add āwhen there are so many other things not to like them for!ā jk )
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I live in the South. Things are much better than they used to be from talking to locals, but racial division still bubbles up from time to time.
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tis4tim said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@tis4tim lady
Smart lady!Ugh! No wonder I donāt know ālagniappeā. I donāt even know the gender of some of our posters!
My apologies @bcjayhawk. Iāll try to do better next time!
donāt feel baad neither do I - -guess I really need to try harder to know gender before sometimes I run my mouth or get in heated discussion - -never want to offend a lady/woman - -Especially a fellow KU fan
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@jayballer73 I want a lagniappe.
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KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 I want a lagniappe.
Sorry Dude - -but I donāt even have any fricking Idea what that even is lmao - -donāt you be cussing me lol - -gonna have to go to websterās - -now how do you spell websters
I aibāt got none of that them there edciaaaaaated type of doings - -dad gum it - - -JUMPIN - - -GEE - - HOSSA - -FATS - - buddy can I buy some of whatever that is at Walmart? lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
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@bcjayhawk I lived in Louisiana Cajun country for 11 years and became a user of the word Lagniappe, and an eater at Lagniappe Restaurant but only once because the food was crappy. I like the word lagniappe, rolls off the tongue, and I can make puns off of it like I put my ID on my lagniappe (instead of course, my lanyard).
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11 years of living in LA, and particularly with my work in the inner city, gave me a close up view of current racial disparities, slights, and overt racism. From the north where Iād moved from I was curious to see it up close, although hoping I wouldnāt see it. We witnessed white families moving out of our new middle class subdivision because it was largely African American. Our kids had classmates ask why they lived in the ghetto. We got the last laugh by making a nice profit on our house when we sold 11 years later. Sports was another area where it persists. I watched a referee whistle 7 fouls on our team in the first 2 minutes of the 2nd half. We were winning by 10 against the 2nd ranked team in the state, but schools from the 9th ward are not allowed to beat 20,000$ a year private school kids so the refs took care of it. I also watched another rich kid private school create a mud bath out of our sideline for our football game against them, even though we were 2nd ranked in the state.
Sadly, I could go on but you get my point. Anything else I add would just be lagniappe, or a little bit extra.
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We are all - whether we admit it or not - racists and or bigots in one form or the other. That has been manās struggle since our very beginning, to somehow control a little something that is both necessary and redundant - instinctā¦ And now back to our regularly scheduled programā¦
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So, when is the NCAA going to wrap up its investigation? Answer : Neverā¦ Far too many co-conspirators.
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@nuleafjhawk Racism is still very common in the south, it just doesnāt look like what it did 50+ years ago before the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, and other associated legislation from the JFK/LBJ administrations.
Itās much more subtle and institutionalized these days for the most part. An example I can give is standardized testing. Here in Texas, our standardized state test is called the STAAR test. A survey of the STAAR test found that the reading level is typically 2-3 years above grade level meaning that a 7tg grade STAAR test is written at a 9th or 10th grade level. I teach at in a Title One district where most kids reading levels are considered below grade level.
At one of my staff development trainings earlier this month, a video was played illustrating what this looks like. It was a white boy, white girl, black boy, and black girl lined up on a track to race. When the starter fired the gun, the white male took off, the other three had to wait behind a wall. As years passed along, eventually the white girl was allowed to start, but had some hurdles to clear while the white boy was running unimpeded. The two black people still hadnāt left the starting block yet. Neither black person left until the year reached 1865 and then they still all kinds of different obstacles to clear until the year reached 1965.
There has been more racial progress made in this country in the past 55 years than in the previous 350 years prior and thereās still a lot of work to do.
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nuleafjhawk said:
@justanotherfan I must be the most naive guy on the planet. I havenāt read all of the āracialā posts word for word, but I am literally in shock. This stuff is still that prevalent? I canāt believe it.
Iām white, but Iāve had many friends over the years that were not. Mostly black and hispanic. I donāt know what Brandon and Tim were selling, but Itās never crossed my mind not to buy something - car, house, groceries, whatever it is iām buying - from someone just because they are another race. Thatās CRAZY.
Just curious - are you guys in the midwest? Like I said, maybe i have my head in the sand, or maybe itās different in other parts of the country/world.
Thatās a sad, sad thing to not like someone for the color of their skin. (of course my twisted mind wants to add āwhen there are so many other things not to like them for!ā jk )
First, its a credit to you that you donāt think that way. I think a lot of people do not think that way. It absolutely IS crazy to think that way.
I am however, not surprised that you do not encounter this. I think we can agree that a very small percentage of the population is racist. Given that you know hundreds of people, you may know a handful of people with racial superiority/inferiority ideology. However, given your own position on these issues, those people likely wonāt ever act on that around you because they know you think thatās crazy and will likely react, and may even socially shun them or change your opinion on them based on their attitudes toward race. You may even know some of these people well, but they would never reveal that side of themselves to you.
For instance, I was once called a ācolored boyā in a business meeting. Needless to say, everyone that was there was shocked that the person that said that actually said it, and the reactions of others in the room reflected that.
But letās say that man had just said āthis guyā instead of ācolored boyā. He has the same attitude in his heart. He holds the same ideology in his mind. He just has a better verbal filter.
Iām still not going to get a fair shake from him when I have to deal with him one on one. He still thinks of me as a ācolored boyā, he just knows he canāt say that. By changing those two words, he draws zero reaction from anyone, and if I have problems dealing with him, no one will say that its because of his racial attitudes. They will just say that I have to learn to work with him on things, or that I have to be more flexible, or that I have to take more personal responsibility. The obligation shifts from him to me, even though I canāt change his heart or mind, because he isnāt doing something blatant, so he gets a pass even if he is politely screwing me over at every turn.
People with those attitudes have learned that they will be socially ostracized for that type of behavior, and no one wants to be an outcast. But they also know that they can feel the exact same way, and even act on that, so long as they watch what they say and never point to race as the determining factor. And if they do that, they can make sure you never even see it.
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@justanotherfan hopefully working with you long enough will expand his mind and change his heart.
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When I lived in Europe I had all kinds of friendsā¦ most were white. My Swedish bro is white. Some of his words sounded racially conflicted. I knew he wasnāt a racist because he became my best friend. Over a beer he told me he never knew a person of color before me. So I felt it was my duty to have him take the ātotal plunge into darknessā by meeting another good friend of mine who was extremely black skinned. He was Rastafarian and played in a well-known reggae band. They became friends, too.
The moral of this story is that many people just donāt have experience with other cultures. No one should hold that against them. Give them a chance! I know Iām glad I did that because otherwise I wouldnāt have my best friend today!
The key is to stay positive and keep that positive perspective throughout your life. There are so many cool people out there that donāt match your skin color just waiting to meet you and start a lifelong friendship!
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@drgnslayr that was really nice
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tis4tim said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@tis4tim lady
Smart lady!Ugh! No wonder I donāt know ālagniappeā. I donāt even know the gender of some of our posters!
My apologies @bcjayhawk. Iāll try to do better next time!
No apologies necessary. While Iāve come to believe in my time of following this site that some posters know each other in āreal life,ā when weāre chatting back and forth here, weāre all happily anonymous
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bcjayhawk said:
No apologies necessary. While Iāve come to believe in my time of following this site that some posters know each other in āreal life,ā when weāre chatting back and forth here, weāre all happily anonymous
Well, youāre a little less anonymous than you were twenty-four hours ago! Iāve eliminated half the global population in trying to figure out your real identity.
Seriously though, thanks for your understanding.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@justanotherfan hopefully working with you long enough will expand his mind and change his heart.
Unfortunately not. We didnāt cross paths much after that, and he never spoke to me after that incident. I havenāt seen this person in at least a decade.
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tis4tim said:
mayjay said:
@tis4tim I tried in vain to remember if it was in any vocabulary lessons in high school. I remember āangstā and ādystopiaāāI even remember āantidisestabishmentarianismāābut not that one!
Twain mentions it in āLife On The Mississippiā, apparently. I thought I read that as a youth, but I either didnāt read it, skimmed over the word entirely or maybe thought it was a publisher typo.
Still, not a word one might readily come by, unless you live in Louisiana ā¦ or seriously love Mark Twain.
I donāt remember the word from Twain. If memory serves, I believe I learned it from a cookbook written by Chef Paul Prudhomme who became known for his blackened red fish. He had a restaurant called K-Paulās Louisiana Kitchen on Charles Street in the French Quarter in New Orleans. I remember waiting in line to get into it. I was travelling for business and so was dining alone, but at K-Paulās you got a chair rather than a table so you dined with whomever was seated at the same table. I donāt remember the gentlemanās name, but he was a teacher visiting NO for a teacherās conference. Iād like to think it was @wissox
In the cookbook, a lagniappe followed each recipe.
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@bcjayhawk I remember another great Cajun chef - Justin Wilson, who may or may not have used that word, but he used a lot of other colorful ones. Maybe it was because his tongue was numb from the ācookingā sherry / wine.
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Yes, I remember Justin Wilson, too. His TV show was always entertaining to say the least!
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@bcjayhawk Ha, Iād like to think it was me too!
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Iām feeling some harmony in here! Always better to be bonded Jayhawksā¦ no need for ruffled feathers! ha! Weāll save our frustrations for the kitty kats in Manhattan and Columbia! Glad to be a bird where we can fly over the kitties with ease and can perch on higher grounds! hahahahahahehheeee
