The les miles effect in recruiting
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Also, all five of the juco commits (MacVittie, Naylor, Parchment, Ford and Sampson) are expected to be on campus in January and participate in Spring drills. That is a big thing when recruiting jucos, as it makes it more likely that they will be 1) eligible and 2) able to contribute next season.
Fairchild, Russell, Terry and Agbaw should all arrive in the summer.
That’s nine recruits, with a position breakdown of 1 QB, 1 TE, 2 WR, 2 DT, 3 DB.
We could still use depth on defense and along the offensive line. An impact skill player or two wouldn’t hurt. With six scholarships left, that gives some flexibility. Miles has ensured that this year won’t be a complete disaster on the recruiting trail.
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@justanotherfan i havent seen ny offensive linemen yet though
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Neither have I. KU also added Malcolm Lee, a juco defensive end. That makes 10 signings.
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@justanotherfan When is Terry supposed to make it official?
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I don’t expect any o-line until late, if we take any this year. We blueshirted quite a few this year. Terry should be this afternoon but I’m still a little nervous.
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Really good start so far with the requisite band-aid JuCo players. I will guess that future classes will depend largely on how well KU does next season; 6 wins sends a message that KU is on the rise and a few players short of being a contender which might get higher ranked prospects to consider the up and coming team. Another 2-3 win season and we are back at the usual spot. With better coaching KU could have won 5 games last season and with the improved coaching staff there is no reason not to expect at least 6 wins.
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@justanotherfan Lee was a pretty nice snag for the staff. Most people thought he was going to Iowa. I believe he was a top 40ish JC player.
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Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
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KU football’s 2019 recruits (ratings from Rivals; √ = signed)
√ 3-star St. Thomas Aquinas S Jayden Russell (6-2, 190)
√ 3-star McEachern H.S. (Ga.) CB Valerian Agbaw (5-10, 170)
√ 3-star Mesa C.C. (Ariz.) QB Thomas MacVittie (6-5, 225)
√ 3-star Iowa Central C.C. WR Ezra Naylor (6-4, 210)
√ 3-star Golden West Coll. (Calif) CB Justin Ford (6-1, 180)
√ 3-star Iowa Western C.C. DE Malcolm Lee (6-5, 270)
√ 2-star Coahoma C.C. (Miss.) DL Caleb Sampson (6-4, 285)
√ 2-star Iowa Central C.C. WR Andrew Parchment (6-2, 185)
• 2-star Meridian H.S. (Miss.) DL Da’Jon Terry (6-3, 345)
√ 2-star Andale High TE Mason Fairchild (6-5, 250)
√ 2-star Rochdale H.S. (Texas) QB Torry Locklin (6-2, 195)
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justanotherfan said:
Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
Grayshirt last year. Not sure we have any clue what we have with him yet. Get him here for spring and see what happens.
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@dylans I LOVE IT!!!
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justanotherfan said:
Another signing that was not listed earlier is Torry Locklin, a dual threat three star QB from Texas (although he grew up in New Mexico). QB of the future?
Terry is still listed as committed, though he has not signed yet.
I think we are going to like Locklin down the road - -a real dual threat -he was right about 2500 yards passing – 2500 yard rush both just a hair under 2500 - -like 32 TD’s looks like be a nice 4 YEAR player for us - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
I think we are going to like Locklin down the road - -a real dual threat -he was right about 2500 yards passing – 2500 yard rush both just a hair under 2500 - -like 32 TD’s looks like be a nice 4 YEAR player for us - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He’s a year out of HS, but he still has 4 years of eligibility. With MacVittie already here, could he be a candidate for a redshirt if he doesn’t win the QB battle out of spring practice?
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So Ol Les snuck this is on us lmao - -he some were worry about the commit of big boy not coming - -but in reality he just wanted to hold off until Wednsday to make it official with I think he said his Coach’s.
Didn’t mean he hadn’t signed his LOI - just the Coach didn’t say any thing about it so as to comply with the kids request - -can’t blame him for that - -still glad we know he is coming for sure. - - - Ol Les being sneaky lo - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
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kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
Interesting.
I understand that the Dineen’s are a legacy at KU and there’s no doubt they have been good players and ambassadors for KU. That said, it’s not clear KU is going to use a FB heavily in their offense (Jax position). If Jax were going to move to LB, I could see that, but his best position is FB. That makes KU a difficult fit for him.
It’s unfortunate that KU and the Dineen’s couldn’t work this out, but with only 15 scholarships this season, they all count.
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Difficult situation. When several generations of the family have played for KU I will guess they expected some preferential treatment that apparently Miles was not willing to give. While I understand that the coach has to look for the best players available, given that there are scholarships available, perhaps a good will gesture would have gone a long ways and it is possible that the local pipeline might have been damages in the process.
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kjayhawks said:
@FarmerJayhawk I was able to speak to one of my inside sources to KU this week with the holiday. He told me Jax was offered to be a preferred walk-on and was not happy. I was told the Dineens dad was escorted out of the football complex after a heated exchange with Les Miles.
As much as we ( KU )had our relationships with the Dineen’s and the guys have been really good for us - -just have to wonder on the other hand - -What? - -if Coach just feels we don’t or can’t afford to use a Scholi for Jax - -that’s wrong not to offer? - - If Coach doesn’t feel like he is at that point where he feels like he can use one on Jax then so be it.
I think at this point I trust his judgement more at this point. Yes Jax is a local kid - - yes the Dineens have played well for KU - -But from what I understand Jax is more of a fullback type - - -Ku doesn’t use the fullback very much in our scheme - -just not a good fit.
Wouldn’t you think for him you would want him to go somewhere that he fits - -such as K-State - they implement the fullback quite a bit in their scheme - -perfect fit - -I would want him to be happy - -not just because well my brothers both went here so you owe us for him. - - doesn’t work that way -think this works out for both actually
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My thought is with him being undersized, playing at a seldom used position and us only having 15 scholarships, maybe we just couldn’t take him.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Difficult situation. When several generations of the family have played for KU I will guess they expected some preferential treatment that apparently Miles was not willing to give. While I understand that the coach has to look for the best players available, given that there are scholarships available, perhaps a good will gesture would have gone a long ways and it is possible that the local pipeline might have been damages in the process.
If it was a bigger class with closer to the full 25, you could do that. Les Miles is not in the business of kissing ass though, he’s in the business of winning football games and has to be very selective in this recruiting class because it’s only 60% of a regular class size.
This also says that KU will be running Chip Lindsey’s offense and Les Miles offense because Miles absolutely utilized a fullback more than just about any other P5 program not named Georgia Tech. Were KU running Les Miles pro style system, Jax would’ve been one of the first players offered by Miles.
With all this said, I do wonder if Jay Dineen will transfer out due to this.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Honestly it sounds like a little bit of “My baby is the best and I’m too proud” to me. It’s not like he had tons of D1 offers, I believe KU was the only power 5 team with him on their radar. Jay has decent size but I’m not sure he’s been on the field to this point. I’ve heard that there is another little brother besides Jax, that supposedly the best of the bunch.
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@kjayhawks special teams, didn’t he get his bell rung?
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Looks like KSU had him on its radar…
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@JayHawkFanToo I didn’t realize he had signed with KSU wow, but yes KU and KSU were the only power 5 offers he had. Most were FCS, I’d be shocked to see him on the field much for at least 2 years.
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Who was that guy on that one site who boldly (and at the time preposterously) predicted - after the Miles hire - that KU would win a national championship in football within five years? I very seriously doubt that. What say you, folks?
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Marco said:
Who was that guy on that one site who boldly (and at the time preposterously) predicted - after the Miles hire - that KU would win a national championship in football within five years? I very seriously doubt that. What say you, folks?
LMAO – I think the Chances of KU EVER winning the National Championship in foot ball is about like me becoming the President in the next 10 years.
Now that’s not saying Les can’t bring us back to respectibilty in the next 5 years - -get us to bowl games in the next 5 years - -possibly even might get to the point of challenging for the big 12 - -but the National Championship in the next 5 years? - - -umm - -don’t think that’s happening. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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With the way that the college football playoff is set up, if KU were to challenge for and win the Big 12, they would have a shot at the national title. Being in a P5 conference means that winning the conference could get them into the playoff with a chance to win the whole thing.
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@justanotherfan KU could win the Big 12 and still not sniff the CFP. Texas went into the B12 title game at 9-3 this year. Had they beaten OU a second time this year, they still wouldn’t have sniffed the CFP as they were ranked 14th going into that game. They weren’t moving up 10 spots.
Even though the 2nd place team has been 7-2 since the return of the game. I don’t think it’ll be all that uncommon for a 6-3 record to make the B12 title game. It’ll probably be a 3 way tie or something like that to get a 6-3 record in the B12 title game so KU could get there in a few years and if they get lucky with tie breakers.
I don’t see KU making the CFP because the B12 schedule doesn’t allow for something like 2007 to happen anymore. I don’t think KU would’ve beaten OU that year anyway.
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All we have to do is finish the season in January undefeated. I guarantee that would mean we won the NC.
