Other Games Tonight
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Both Duke and UK have crazy talent but Duke’s is a lot farther along. UK is not a good shooting team, Duke is but it’s short bench is probably its Achilles heel; however, with Duke owning the refs the net negative effect is considerbly less.
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Zion and RJ look like the real deal. Duke looks very good.
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Duke looks scary. Their weakness is definitely their depth. Zion staying out of foul trouble and surviving the season at his size are his challenges.
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@BShark 3 point shooting is quite a strength for the Squid, isn’t it?
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark 3 point shooting is quite a strength for the Squid, isn’t it?
Kentucky running plays in the same way KU was running plays in the exhibition. LOL.
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@BShark LOL. They’re saving their playbook because they know they have to play us later in the season…ha!
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Duke appears to have as high a ceiling as we do. Going to enjoy ripping their hearts out wherever we meet them in the tournament.
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Okay, based on an admittedly small sample size of 20 minutes, who has the bigger upside this season, Duke or UK?
Duke obviously has the raw talent, but Kentucky strikes me as more mature.
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@nwhawkfan it definitely seems to me to be Duke.
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uk sucks
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@Kcmatt7 Ya you were right. I think it may be more that Duke is really good though.
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I’ve got a lot of respect for Prohm as a person. As a coach remains to be seen but he does the right things.
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I’m not listening to the game. Has Dick Vitale’s head exploded from excitement?
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Kcmatt7 Ya you were right. I think it may be more that Duke is really good though.
In games like this, depth is overrated. UK is less talented 1-6. Thats what matters.
But also, PJ sucks, NR sucks, and Green sucks. That’s why they are all sophomores at UK. Add in that Quickley sucks and Hagans sucks and you have a double digit loss team. Reid is their best player and he played on a bad team last season. UK can either suck at D or they can suck at O depending on the lineup. But they don’t have a group of 5 that can play on both ends.
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I guess I didn’t expect them all to suck lol.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I guess I didn’t expect them all to suck lol.
Luckily I’m here for you lol
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I nailed the starting lineup though. Small victories.
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I would bet that the analysts switch their UK NC opinion to Duke starting tomorrow. Only took an hour lol
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ESPN has already been annoying with the Duke/ACC hype. They are going to be unbearable now.
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Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Kcmatt7 Ya you were right. I think it may be more that Duke is really good though.
In games like this, depth is overrated. UK is less talented 1-6. Thats what matters.
But also, PJ sucks, NR sucks, and Green sucks. That’s why they are all sophomores at UK. Add in that Quickley sucks and Hagans sucks and you have a double digit loss team. Reid is their best player and he played on a bad team last season. UK can either suck at D or they can suck at O depending on the lineup. But they don’t have a group of 5 that can play on both ends.
Sucks by UK standards. I’d bet PJ and Nick would develop well at KU. PJ is decent, but he’s a 6’7’’ center, so that will hurt you in some games for sure.
I’m not big on Green or Quickley, but I thought Hagans might be a dude. Herro is um…he is completely outmatched in this game. Barrett sees a target cursor on Herro every time he has the ball. Herro won’t be overmatched like this every game I don’t think anyway. He’s not great overall though.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
ESPN has already been annoying with the Duke/ACC hype. They are going to be unbearable now.
KU win buried on the back page.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@Kcmatt7 Ya you were right. I think it may be more that Duke is really good though.
In games like this, depth is overrated. UK is less talented 1-6. Thats what matters.
But also, PJ sucks, NR sucks, and Green sucks. That’s why they are all sophomores at UK. Add in that Quickley sucks and Hagans sucks and you have a double digit loss team. Reid is their best player and he played on a bad team last season. UK can either suck at D or they can suck at O depending on the lineup. But they don’t have a group of 5 that can play on both ends.
Sucks by UK standards. I’d bet PJ and Nick would develop well at KU. PJ is decent, but he’s a 6’7’’ center, so that will hurt you in some games for sure.
I’m not big on Green or Quickley, but I thought Hagans might be a dude. Herro is um…he is completely outmatched in this game. Barrett sees a target cursor on Herro every time he has the ball. Herro won’t be overmatched like this every game I don’t think anyway. He’s not great overall though.
Herro will stuggle unless he can beat guys off of the dribble. The only guy who can shoot on their team. They won’t let him shoot. PJ is a 6’7 C. You’re right. He can’t block a shot. Neither can Reid. Montgomery is overmatched now that guys are his size. Only positive is KJ. And he doesn’t score well enough.
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Imagine being a Kentucky fan right now. Alcohol will be consumed in Lexington tonight.
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@Kcmatt7 I don’t see Herro being able to beat many guys off the dribble. He’s gotta work like Svi to get open on the 3 pt line.
Interesting point about their front court guys. The two that are good offensively can’t defend for shit in the post. Richards is okay on that end, but his offense is um, yeah.
@KirkIsMyHinrich So, a usual night then.
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Did Uncle Fester and Bilas pick Kentucky to win this game too?
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Just curious why this thread was started when there was already one started with the same topic before it? Less seems better to me. BTW, Ethan Happ with a triple double tonight.
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wissox said:
Just curious why this thread was started when there was already one started with the same topic before it? Less seems better to me. BTW, Ethan Happ with a triple double tonight.
Was there a thread for other games tonight? I just didn’t want to add unnecessary posts to the Classic thread.
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Lol UK is seriously bad. Like will be fighting for the NCAA tournament bad, imo.
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wissox said:
Just curious why this thread was started when there was already one started with the same topic before it? Less seems better to me. BTW, Ethan Happ with a triple double tonight.
I completely forgot about the other thread and didn’t notice it when I went to make this.
@Kcmatt7 Sam on point once again here…
Sam Vecenie Verified account @Sam_Vecenie 13m13 minutes ago
Calipari invited this start to the second half from Duke by playing super big to start the half. Front line of Washington, Montgomery, and Travis against a team that’s drive-and-kicked you, transitioned you, and out-athleted you to death? Why?
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This could be the worst UKs been beat since we did it 150 to 95.
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UK doesn’t pass well and they don’t shoot well.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Lol UK is seriously bad. Like will be fighting for the NCAA tournament bad, imo.
Calm down.
Could you imagine though? Wow.
Kcmatt7 said:
UK doesn’t pass well and they don’t shoot well.
Very interested to see more of UK after this game. Is UK really this bad or is Duke insane? Maybe both?
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Lol UK is seriously bad. Like will be fighting for the NCAA tournament bad, imo.
Calm down.
Could you imagine though? Wow.
I’M SERIOUS
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Barrett, Reddish, and Zion are beating Kentucky 66-50 right now. Wow.
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Kansas and Duke are the clear cut 2 best teams. Been saying this since the summer.
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Marsha is a mongoloid monster. Remember when there was this narrative about Self? I’d like to see this shit get more coverage. Gregg is a dick. The opposite of Prohm who I believe genuinely cares about his players as people.
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uk sucks
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That Maui field is loaded this year. Duke going through Auburn and then Gonzaga is going to be 2 great games for Duke. A Duke/Gonzage game is a potential Final Four match up as well.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
That Maui field is loaded this year. Duke going through Auburn and then Gonzaga is going to be 2 great games for Duke. A Duke/Gonzage game is a potential Final Four match up as well.
Duke Gonzaga will be must see tv for anyone that likes basketball.
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@BShark Get to the Choppa!! I’ve lost a ton of respect for Marshall the past few years between his out burst, drunk wife in the stands and his we’ll play anyone crap but declined to play KSU this season. I’ve said before if I was Self I’d call down there and offer a home an home after he declined KSU so he could go on national TV to call him a chicken. I know Self is too classy for that move but I’d laugh.
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@BShark Xavier and Auburn should be a good one too in the first round.
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@Kcmatt7 I wouldn’t say UK is a bubble team at this remember when they beat us by 32 in 2014-15 and we still won our conference and got a 2 seed. They also play in the SEC which drops off a ton after the first 4 teams.
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BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT BAYLOR ALERT LOST 72-69 to KENPOM #277 Texas Southern.
You know, the Texas Southern KU hung 114 on last year.
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Kentucky is not right now a very good team. It will not win the SEC and it will have a double digit number of loses. Duke is literally toying with them.
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This isn’t quite Williams-Pitino levels of obliteration, but it’s in the ball park.
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Nevada and BYU tied at 34 at the half…
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Probably Duke, Kansas, Gonzaga 1,2,3 next ranking.
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Duke looked better because UK played zero defense. I will guess we make up ~10 games in the all time wins this season.
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@BShark wow they were 13 at half time, Scott Drew maybe on his way out. No doubt he put them on the map after literally the murderous past they had but he’s done very little with some talented teams.
