Mizzou's Porter Karma
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Last year, Jr. only played something like 3 games. Now this year they just lost his brother for the season. Not a good investment on Dad’s job.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/10/21/jontay-porter-missouri-torn-acl-mcl
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Sucks for the kid. He would have been a first round pick last year.
Missouri fans will now get to continue to be delusional about Cuonzo because they will have an excuse this year. The guy makes Bruce look like Phil Jackson. He always has NBA guys on the roster and flames out early in the tournament. Hell with two NBA players, Charlie Moore and some other decent pieces he went to the NIT in his last year at Cal. 11 losses is his best record at Tenn, Cal or Missouri. That team had Jaylen Brown and Ivan Rabb on it, 4 guys that saw NBA minutes in total.
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I actually think Cuonzo Martin would be a better NBA coach than college coach. I don’t think he has a system that he can implement to get his lesser talents involved and productive on a consistent basis, but I think he could cater to his higher end talent. To be successful in the college game, he really needs to just build around his stars instead of trying to get guys in college to do things they just can’t do. That’s been his problem at every stop. He asks his third and fourth best guys to do things they just can’t do.
In some ways, Cuonzo could end up like former MU guy Quin Snyder, who seemed lost in college, only to end up being a very good NBA guy now.
(edit to add the bit about Quin Snyder)
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justanotherfan said:
I actually think Cuonzo Martin would be a better NBA coach than college coach. I don’t think he has a system that he can implement to get his lesser talents involved and productive on a consistent basis, but I think he could cater to his higher end talent. To be successful in the college game, he really needs to just build around his stars instead of trying to get guys in college to do things they just can’t do. That’s been his problem at every stop. He asks his third and fourth best guys to do things they just can’t do.
Interesting point. I can’t say I’ve watched enough of his games to draw conclusions about his coaching.
The best college coaches are basically dictators that micro-manage everything.
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@mayjay I hate this for anyone.
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Cuonzo Martin gets a good season of players he inherits, gets some good prospects and it does not get better. Next year will be his third year at MU and things will start to go South and he will bolt…book it.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Cuonzo Martin gets a good season of players he inherits, gets some good prospects and it does not get better. Next year will be his third year at MU and things will start to go South and he will bolt…book it.
I haven’t done a ton of research on his record or expectations, but just looking at the records you posted, it looks like Martin got better every year at Missouri State and at Tennessee. Cal was his first stop where you can honestly say that his third year was a step back from his first two.
I don’t think Martin will be a great college coach, but I don’t think he’s bad by any means.
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@justanotherfan Martin had some dudes on that 13-14 UT team. Him leaving Tennessee was always a bit weird though. There was that bizarre petition to bring Bruce Pearl back and whisperings of racism about the UT fan base/boosters.
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Considering the players he had he did not do as well as expected in his third year at Tennessee and so he bolted. The 3 year pattern seems pretty established. Without Jontay MU is back to the middle of the bottom half of the SEC which will be stronger this year
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Considering the players he had he did not do as well as expected in his third year at Tennessee and so he bolted. The 3 year pattern seems pretty established. Without Jontay MU is back to the middle of the bottom half of the SEC which will be stronger this year
He wasn’t welcome back at Tennessee.
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He grossly underperformed at Cal. He had Jaylen Brown, Ivan Rabb, Jabari Bird, and Jordan Mathews and couldn’t win a NCAA game.
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Exactly. MU should be his dream job, he is from St. Louis and he had the Porter family with two outstanding players and originally from Columbia to give him a leg up and now it seems that Jontay, who would have been first round pick last draft, will not play again for MU.
MU was projected #8 in the SEC before the injury and now it will drop at least a couple of spots and will not better moving forward with lots of conference teams on the upswing.
