Conference Play Discussion
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Thank you for all your hard work. Now that our team has shown us their hearts our top five defense will hold teams below their average and our offense has averaged 80 in our mini win streak. If a team like St Johns can play with ISU so can we. I'm saying all this sans Darryn who is just stunning I mean come on man. Get cheap with Tre, Flory, Melvin (see the end of the MU game), and you will get it back plus some and any one of these guys have and can take over a game. I saw Tiller get rugged himself he doesn't like you trying to push him around and he is scary athletic and talented. He is going to go so off watch for the bomb. Self has told him to keep shooting the corner three he is not scared of anyone. Jamari who ends up guarding a big in the paint when we play small and gets just slung around and he gets up and sprints to his place. He is a surprise on both ends but after thirteen games it not a surprise anymore. Kohl lives in Kohland and doesn't give a darn who he runs into. He just keeps on going for it on the lobs (really dude?) and has no filter when he is open. I'd throw Samis onto those tall forwards when needed. He is about to bubble open. He will be good and needs to be this year and not next year.
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I think it's imperative for KU to have a strong January if they want to have a chance at a conference championship this year. The way the schedule is setup, your two toughest games are at home (Iowa St, BYU) and you have manageable road games (UCF #45 KenPom, West Virginia #65, Colorado #85, K-St #74).
8-0 would be gravy train, 7-1 would be excellent, 6-2 would still be okay as far as Conf implications go but context of results would matter. Anything more than 2 losses and we can regroup on expectations imo. The unknown of whether Peterson will play in all or any or some of these games coming up muddies any real projections. There's a clear ceiling to this team without him on the floor. White, Council & Flory can keep them in games but it's the bench play that will either limit team success or be a catalyst in conference play if Peterson isn't available.
I took a look at all the main contenders in the league's schedules. Houston has the easiest path to the title on paper. KU, Iowa St, Zona & Tech have backloaded schedules in Mid-Feb to end of conf play. BYU has a tougher January then most but got a break in last 4 games of the schedule. February is going to be cinema in the Big-12 this year with how those schedules load up back-to-back big games for most of the top teams.
Schedule Rant: KU has a road game in Colorado on a Tuesday that starts at 11pm. Believe the same thing occurred last year and made it impossible for most on the East Coast to watch, including myself. That is total BS again.
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My study of the conferences is done by looking at ESPN on my computer (easier to do on computer) and click on "Standings". It shows every conference and their records. It also has each teams records against ranked teams. So I start counting ranked wins.
Big12 has 13 ranked wins collectively, with Arizona leading the nation with 5. We've only got 1 while losing 3 against ranked teams, but of course the DP absence factors into that.
The SEC has 9 ranked wins. Vandy is 13-0 but has a super soft schedule.
The Big East only has 5 ranked wins with UCONN securing for of those, so pretty weak otherwise.
ACC has 11 ranked wins, BIG has 15 so I guess they lead in that category, but they all have 2 conference games already so that skews that data a bit.
What's interesting too is that no other conferences have any wins against ranked teams except Gonzaga has 4 ranked wins, but no other team in their conference has done anything. In other words no mid majors or low majors have any big surprises.
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People mocked me when I suggested the Big12 just play conference teams. At the same time the same people complain about uneven schedules in the leagues. I hate the uneven schedules caused by so many teams. How can you call yourself conference champ when you don't have to play at KU, or ISU, or Zona? Back when we were automatically winning these titles every year, we played most team home and home every year. Those championships never felt cheap.
So I'm not backing down on this one! Or at least lets compromise, lets play 26 conference games. Give the auto bid to the regular season champ, forget the conference tourney altogether so you can have your turkey season turkey games and ballroom tournaments still and even a date or two for mid majors like Missouri or Marshall or Monmouth.
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@wissox83 I couldn't agree with you more on part of your post anyways, and that's the part of giving the automatic bid to the regular conference champion.
I've always went with the theory your champion comes from over the body of work a team puts in over the Season--- NOT A WEEKEND. you can't determine a champion in three days.
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@BeddieKU23 youve done a nice job illustrating the importance of DP.
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Going to ISU is always interesting. Last year we won easily there. It feels like we lose there every year but we don't. We've won 21 out of our last 32 against ISU. ISU hasn't even been to an elite 8 since 2000 which is remarkable because every year we talk about them being so tough. You hear the it's their superbowl line frequently but I think there's some truth to it. Like KState their fans seem overly amped whenever we play there. So they get their regular season win. Meanwhile we've been to more FF's this century than ISU has been to the sweet 16.
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What I've noticed with Iowa St is their style of play seems to wear down over the years. The style of physicality seems to even out by end of year
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@wissox83 said in Conference Play Discussion:
My study of the conferences is done by looking at ESPN on my computer (easier to do on computer) and click on "Standings". It shows every conference and their records. It also has each teams records against ranked teams. So I start counting ranked wins.
Big12 has 13 ranked wins collectively, with Arizona leading the nation with 5. We've only got 1 while losing 3 against ranked teams, but of course the DP absence factors into that.
The SEC has 9 ranked wins. Vandy is 13-0 but has a super soft schedule.
The Big East only has 5 ranked wins with UCONN securing for of those, so pretty weak otherwise.
ACC has 11 ranked wins, BIG has 15 so I guess they lead in that category, but they all have 2 conference games already so that skews that data a bit.
What's interesting too is that no other conferences have any wins against ranked teams except Gonzaga has 4 ranked wins, but no other team in their conference has done anything. In other words no mid majors or low majors have any big surprises.
Your last paragraph is courtesy of the portal and these low and mid majors not being able to retain those players.
NIL hasn't been awful for football as it's created a bit of parity, but has been absolutely terrible for college basketball.
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Davion Adkins our next stud center is a dog who says come on to the rim bro, my rim by the way. He's 6'9" with a 7.4" win span (is that a typo). Blocks everything playing against top recruits at some wildly equipped facility in Dallas. He said we all dogs going at each other banging and playing hard at a new level. Loves coming to KU.
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Watching opening night in Conference two quick easy reads ONE West Virginia isn't that good and plays very slow . the thing is you can't get caught up in their snails pace- - shot clock under ten A LOT.. -- Hilton is running their Hilton Magic ONE foul been called on Iowa State has ONE foul called the entire first half , West Virginia six hmmm go figure
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IMO to win this conference we need to start out undefeated in January, couple of huge home matchups and chance to put folks behind us.
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@kjayhawks2.0 It'd be really cool to see this team win the conference again after a LONGGGGG layoff of 2 seasons without winning!
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