Big 12 Basketball Commit Tracker
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Yeah the transfers the league got for next year are really good. I can see Kegler being a real pain to play against. Shayok at ISU will be a major upgrade from what they have currently. Weathers will help OSU. Mitrou-Long probably starts at Texas next year.
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Here’s how I see each team based on where they are right now for next year.
Kansas - one of the best three or four teams talentwise in the country. Just loaded as long as everyone shows up eligible. If they add any other pieces, look out. Final Four caliber. National title contender.
Baylor - if they solve their PG situation, Baylor could be very good next year. I don’t know how they are replacing Lecomte right now, but the rest of that roster next year should be legit. With a decent PG that can run the show, Baylor is a Sweet 16 type squad next year. Without a PG, they probably miss the tournament entirely.
Iowa State - probably will experience the biggest bounceback candidate. They are bad this year, but help is on the way for them. They should be back in the tournament, and probably around .500 in the league next season.
K-State - they return most everyone, so its not critical for them to bring guys in. Next year is the prove it year for Weber, because he will have Stokes, Brown and Wade all as seniors. This is Weber’s best chance in Manhattan. If they aren’t top 3 in the league, 2019-2020 is going to be U-G-L-Y.
Oklahoma - if OU doesn’t sign a capable PG, we will see a repeat of last season. We know what that roster looks like without a PG. We know what that roster looks like with a PG. Next year’s roster does not have a PG. That’s all you need to know. Kruger needs to find himself someone to run the show.
Oklahoma State - this is the hardest team to figure. They have some athletes, so that’s nice. But they aren’t all that strong right now, and I don’t know that any of the guys they are bringing in makes them that much better next season. They are probably two players away from being a tournament team.
TCU - Jamie Dixon is building something in Fort Worth. The biggest help will be having Jaylen Fisher back healthy, but he’s surrounding him with the right amount of talent. Dixon built some good, tough, rugged teams at Pitt. He’s finding his way to do the same at TCU. This will be a tournament team next year. They could get hot and make a run to the second weekend.
Texas - Smart has landed himself four long athletes. This is what he has been trying to do, blend athletic four year “system” players with elite talents to carry the offense. If Mitrou-Long can solidify the PG spot, Smart will have the best team he’s had since coming to Austin.
Texas Tech - The Red Raiders will take a step back next year, but it looks like it will only be temporary (similar to what Baylor did this year). They should be down next season, but will bounce back in 2019-2020.
West Virginia - The Mountaineers will continue to be a headache. They will trap and press and pressure and generally drive you crazy. The major question is always can they score in the half court. If their offense is reliably efficient in the half court, they will be a top 10 team. If they struggle to score, they will still win a bunch of games because they will make you throw the ball all over the gym.
The Big 12 will be tough again next year, but KU will be loaded. Next year’s teams at Texas, TCU, West Virginia and maybe even KSU or Baylor could all give this year’s KU squad problems, but they will be facing next season’s monster roster.
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@justanotherfan Really nice post, I’m still digesting it but spot on from a cursory glance.
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I see the Big-12 as down next season is a noticeable way. Lots of point guards leaving the league that have been around forever. 14 of the Top 20 scorers in the league will likely be gone after the season as well. There’s maybe 1-2 guys in the Top 40 that could breakout next season but your not talking about guys that are expected to be stars.
OU is after Jahvon Quinerly. Might be their PG if he’s eligible.
I think Baylor will be after a transfer PG. Can’t see Lindsay being the option. Kegler will be their best player next year.
West Virginia will be tough, although I think they take a slight step down.
TCU will be an interesting team as long as Fisher is healthy. More talent on the way and they red-shirted two bigs.
Tech could actually keep going. The Evans loss is huge but you have to think Moretti, Culver & Smith will be even better as Soph’s. With their success this year and from the looks of things 3 open spots Beard will be aggressive in the spring for players.
K-St- rinse and repeat this years squad just a year older.
Texas- some good talent coming in. I just don’t believe their coach is the guy that maximizes it.
Iowa St will be better. Shayok & Wigginton should be a tough backcourt. They really need someone to step up besides Lard in the post.
OSU- On paper looks like a tough year for them. They will have to be aggressive for grad transfers
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@BeddieKU23 I had not heard about OU and JQ. I wouldn’t touch him with a 10 and a half foot pole but OU is obviously desperate.
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I think KSU will be better if they can stay healthy. Wade is already very good. Wade, Brown, Sneed and Stokes with another year if healthy, that’s a top half of the league roster imo.
Also wow did the services miss on Culver and Smith. Easy to get buried in Texas HS hoops. Those are two of their best players though and they were both not really ranked in the top 200.
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They definitely missed something on Culver and Smith. It’s hard to imagine Smith especially because of the athlete he is (We are talking Top 10-15 in the country). Proof that kids still fall through the cracks even in today’s world.
KSU should be better if everyone returns. I just know how this story ends every time!
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OU did have some CB’s for him. Looks like its shifted to Nova this week. Definitely a Jay Wright type player
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@BeddieKU23 Fair. At the end of the day, Bruce is still Bruce.
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Every year is the same story…This is the best Teams Texas so far…and yet, they always manage to underwhelm. You have heard the expression …It’s Not the Gun, It’s the Shooter? in this case it is not as much the team as it is the coach which is the common denominator and all below average recent seasons even when they had lots of talent.
K-Sate should be better withe the team returning most players but this assumes that Weber does not lose a few players as he normally does.
OU without Young will regress big time unless it finds an elite PG which is unlikely.
Has Carter be been given tenure at WVU so he can play forever? At least Perry has some hair left when he left KU. I would not be surprised to see Konate leave. Losing Carter and Miles, the two top players will hurt big time.
ISU will be greatly improved with experienced players and a couple of solid transfers.
Tech. loses 3 starters including conference POY candidate Evans. This is the perfect storm season for them since they will drop next season.
TCU loses Brodziansky and Williams, the top two scores and experienced seniors so they will take one step backwards.
Baylor loses 4 starters, Lecomte, Acuil, Omot and Maston and yet they keep Drew…step back for them.
OSU loses starters Carrol, Smith and Solomon. Unless they have a good class coming they will remain a bottom half team.
I have factored mostly the players leaving and not what they have coming since departing senior starters will usually be better than incoming raw freshmen…
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I have factored mostly the players leaving and not what they have coming since departing senior starters will usually be better than incoming raw freshmen…
Smart. This is a weaker class and other than KU, who is getting top recruits in this league? Lots of good to great coaches in this league, but not the best recruiters.
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Update: TTU and Baylor each added a player.
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Looks like 5 teams are full at the moment for next season.
West Virginia & Texas have 13.
Kansas, Kansas St & TCU are 1 over. We know KU’s situation is very fluid.
Oklahoma St has 3 openings, Tech has 2, and Baylor has 2.
Baylor might land Memphis area PG Tyler Harris in the spring. Big need for them.
OU & Iowa St have room for 1 more. OU likely after a PG, ISU probably a post player.
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@BeddieKU23 Tyler Harris’s saga has been very odd. I’ve been loosely following him because I figured he would end up at Iowa State but that so far hasn’t materialized.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Tyler Harris’s saga has been very odd. I’ve been loosely following him because I figured he would end up at Iowa State but that so far hasn’t materialized.
Slow playing for the best opportunity. Baylor looks like that atm.
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For OU, does that include Trae Young leaving, or does that not count him?
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9 top 100 guys to the Big 12; 5 to the field, 4 to Kansas. I’m definitely picking Kansas for #15.
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@dylans Not to mention a McDAA in his 4th year removed from HS. The more I watch Dedric the more excited I get. He’s got a lot of old man game. Floaters, fade aways etc… If he were more athletic he’d already be in the NBA.
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justanotherfan said:
For OU, does that include Trae Young leaving, or does that not count him?
If Young leaves as expected they have one spot open. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a transfer or two as well. I expect Kruger to be aggressive adding talent especially at the guard position.
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247 has the Big 12 getting 16 4 star or higher players next year
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BeddieKU23 said:
247 has the Big 12 getting 16 4 star or higher players next year
Does this not count De Sousa?
Also I expect Agbaji to bump up.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
247 has the Big 12 getting 16 4 star or higher players next year
Does this not count De Sousa?
Also I expect Agbaji to bump up.
Not counting De Sousa and not including Agbaji’s expected jump
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OSU adds Kentrevious Jones.
I’ll do a big update to the OP when all the dust settles.
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@BShark @justanotherfan would love to hear your projections now, if the teams filled the gaps they needed or not.
@BeddieKU23 does this mean the Big 12 can recruit again? That’s a big jump in 4 star+'s isn’t it?
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approxinfinity said:
@BShark @justanotherfan would love to hear your projections now, if the teams filled the gaps they needed or not.
@BeddieKU23 does this mean the Big 12 can recruit again? That’s a big jump in 4 star+'s isn’t it?
I’ll wait and see as there might be more impact additions. KU should add one more player for sure, KSU 1-2 more, Texas maybe 1 more etc…
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Wanting to wait until after the draft deadline passes just in case there’s a surprise entry or return (Zaire Smith and Barry Brown in particular). I’d also like to see where Langford goes and if there are any grad transfer candidates that land in the Big 12 since those guys have experience and can play right away.
But it is coming…
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I’m counting around 15 4* recruits so far. That includes the expectation that Agbaji gets the bump he should receive by the end of 2018 rankings updates.
What’s even more promising for the league is almost every team is adding an impact transfer. The league has really embraced transfers
KU- The Lawson, Charlie Moore
K-St- Austin Trice
TCU- Aussie import Alok
Texas Tech- Tariq Owens (grad transfer from St Johns)
Texas- Elijah Mitrou-Long (I believe Nas Long’s brother), averaged 15ppg at his last stop.
Baylor- Mario Kegler- former Top 40 recruit, Machai Mason- star at Yale
Iowa St- Virginia Transfer Shayok
Oklahoma- Juco All-American Kuath. Grad transfer Reynolds at PG
Oklahoma St- Michael Weathers.
