KU/KENTUCKY CHAT
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I’m still smiling about Bill running “junk defense” in this game. He considers a 2-3 zone to be junk.
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@Blown said:
Would not have won game without switching to zone --Bill Self
Agree and full props to HCBS, but wasn’t that the obvious play - given depth and match-ups??? Several on the board have been saying for a while that given the lack of depth, we would need to mix in zone. And, other than Willis, UK doesn’t have a consistent outside threat - Monk is streaky, but that’s it…
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@DCHawker cal couldn’t adjust
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@Crimsonorblue22 cal can. He’s young players can’t. Part of coaching youth.
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Still shocked that Willis was their only answer… It seemed like they were running our old hi/lo for a while and it started to work before they melted down.
Kentucky showed their youth today. They didn’t collapse but they clearly lost their poise and home court advantage.
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@Blown that’s what we wants
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@drgnslayr said:
I feel sure the B12 will have far more than 3 teams in the dance. Our conference is rated too high to only send 3. If anything… some of these other teams will ride the coat tails of the B12 to get in.
Maybe so, but likely very low seeds. Everyone other than the top 3 already have at least 6 losses, so will probably be double digit losses or close thereto by the end of the year. And, KSU, ISU and TTU haven’t beaten anyone. And, ISU has a couple of bad losses to Vandy and Iowa - both .500 teams. If they get in, it will be because it’s a fairly weak bubble…
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@drgnslayr I also think our defense was part of the reason. We forced Monk and Fox into some tough shots. I thought defensively the second half was very good
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@Crimsonorblue22 He was too preoccupied with bitching at the refs. I thought the refs did a pretty good job.
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I also think it has been a huge problem for UK because they have an easy conference and haven’t been challenged enough… just like us.
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Even though they dropped one to Rick Barnes and Company.
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@jessejayhawk missed a bunch of walks but not complaining
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@approxinfinity did you see game?
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3… are you joking.? Most of the stories I read today are calling for 7 or even 8 teams. There is no way the conference sends less than 6 and 7 is the more likely number.
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Coach said, no educational tapes on that zone tonight!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I saw first half, listened to 8 min of second half and made them turn the TV on to see the last 3 min.
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@drgnslayr It’s an easy conference that just won 5 games against the B12 - with 3 of their upper half not participating… Not saying it’s not a weak conference - just that the B12 is not quite as strong as the ratings suggest (a product of decent non-con scheduling and avoiding bad losses and not having any really bad teams…).
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Cal said they got out toughed
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@Crimsonorblue22 Hard to watch the feet when you are looking for contact at the 7 ft level
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@approxinfinity You need to pull rank more often-at least when the Jayhawks are on !
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I definitely think our conference is down this year. But I think ALL of D1 is down this year. Not really that many dominant teams.
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I believe DEFENSE has largely left college basketball. A big part of it is how they call games, definitely punishing aggressive defense. The TV marketing wonks have won.
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@HawkChamp said:
@drgnslayr I also think our defense was part of the reason. We forced Monk and Fox into some tough shots. I thought defensively the second half was very good
Interestingly, we gave up 9 more points in the second half than we did the first. But, we scored 52! points in the second half. We started to execute the offensive a lot better - made a handful of 3s (not many), but got some penetration and post scoring from LL and JJ. And, points off TOs.
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@drgnslayr Think Rafa can beat Roger tomorrow? I am heading to bed so I can get up at 2AM to watch it.
Night All. Big Win.
Helps to shake off the bad smell of the Bragg stuff.RCJGKU
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@drgnslayr I watched that-UK is similar to us defensively-let opp score too easily & try to outscore them flipside. When it’s on da line ya just gotta D-UP.!
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Yep… seems our poise kicked in and we executed better. I give a lot of credit to our poise. Just hanging in there and waiting for a break. And we got several of those. There are at least a half dozen calls that could have gone against us but didn’t. We didn’t get those calls in Morgantown.
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@DCHawker We hit 45% from 3 in the second half (5-11). Let’s just ignore the first half.
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@drgnslayr said:
Yep… seems our poise kicked in and we executed better. I give a lot of credit to our poise. Just hanging in there and waiting for a break. And we got several of those. There are at least a half dozen calls that could have gone against us but didn’t. We didn’t get those calls in Morgantown.
Agreed on the calls - 15 on us and 17 on them - doesn’t happen on the road that often - esp. at a venue like Rupp…
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After the light bulb came on with these guys they also projected better body language. I really believe that impacts refs and how they call the game.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 proves even understaffed, KU has a darn good coaching staff! Some coaches
Don’t know how to adjust
Seem to recall that being said about HCBS on this site.
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@tundrahok Wish I could, but that 0-8 is etched in my mind. Hopefully the CR will wash it away shortly.
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I kind of think coaches are a bit like players. When playing an easy schedule and running up a bunch of wins, why should they change anything? Why put in extra stuff when we are winning?
Gosh… just thinking back to our last two NCs… we had lost a bunch of games those years. It pushed our coaches to hustle in other concepts. I’ll never forget when Bill put Rush out on defensive point…
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@drgnslayr You don’t think HCBS had the foresight to know the hand he was dealt and that it would need something extra down the road? Wiley Coyote could take some lessons from HCBS.
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And over at ESPN/PUKE Network, all over the NCAAM’s home page is nothing but Puke. Hell of a game in Lexington tonite and all they can talk about is don’t give up on Puke.
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Day Tripper got into another fight today…dude needs help.
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@JayHawkFanToo Yeah, was watching that one when it happened. Showed my wife his history on youtube and even she says the kid needs help. I kind of think she knows a little about that as she worked at Menningers for about a year while in nursing school at Washburn years ago.
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@HawkChamp Maybe legit? A team from Wacko ? Scott Drew?
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@drgnslayr ANY zone is junk to Okie ballers…
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@RockChalkinTexas And count it !
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@Eric-san Damn straight Eric-
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@globaljaybird
True… and I really appreciate that! I look at zone as one more weapon, so something definitely to use. But I appreciate the toughness of Iba and all his disciples.
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@brooksmd Someone will clean his clock before this season’s over-mark my word. Coulda easily happened today…tick, tock, tick, tock…
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@globaljaybird Watchin the Thomas Crown Affair with McQueen and Dunaway. What she did to him while they were playing chess is like what HCBS did to Sleazy when he went zone. Poor guy didn’t stand a chance.
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@Eric-san I never quit!
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I loved watching old man Lucas show up those freshmen. It’s amazing what you can do with a little experience. UK has the talent to beat anyone, but KU has the experience. Not to mention the experience of beating the pre-season top 2 teams!
