Trae Young
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I hear Chris Smith is going to qualify to graduate this year and join the 2017 class. Could be good for KU
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@Statmachine never heard of him. Position? Size? Can he shoot well?
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6"7 6"8 think Perry Ellis. Hybrid forward type. Long and lean he can shoot it well on the perimeter. Decent handles. A lot of upside on this one. Attends same school that Wiggins went too
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@BeddieKU23 thanks
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@HawkChamp said:
@BeddieKU23 thanks
Just to clarify he doesn’t have a game like Perry, just similar size. He’s more athletic and perimeter oriented, probably a big guard like Jackson and Svi
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We need to get another big guy. People have been talking the last few years about our lack of post play but yet we normally don’t get 6-10 or 6-11 guys like TJ Leaf or Tony Bradley. I know we got Diallo and Carlton but they are not like Isaiah Hicks or Kennedy Meeks. We need to big multi year players instead of “project” players. Is there really only one available right now?
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Too bad Self didn’t take Tyler Davis over Diallo in hindsight and I am not being sarcastic.
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@Statmachine said:
I hear Chris Smith is going to qualify to graduate this year and join the 2017 class. Could be good for KU
This is a kid I hope ends up at KU do you have insider info on this situation?
@BeddieKU23 said:
@HawkChamp said:
@BeddieKU23 thanks
Just to clarify he doesn’t have a game like Perry, just similar size. He’s more athletic and perimeter oriented, probably a big guard like Jackson and Svi
Exciting multi-year player for sure.
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@BShark man why didn’t Davis choose us? Much better choice over Diallo who just wanted to shoot jumpers.
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If Self wanted him he probably could have got him. He even said KU was his “dream school”. Self made a choice to not go hard after Davis early to chase Diallo. His crystal ball was 75% KU when he popped for A&M x_x.
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@BShark wow really? I would have gone with the multi year skilled guy. He has good size and girth also. People will say “yeah but hindsight is 20/20”. Not here. Diallo was known to be raw and he is not a real inside player like Davis. And then people (including me) complain about our inside play. Have to get the right guys, not just highly ranked ones.
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@BeddieKU23 And have we been looking at him, recruiting him? seems like we always turn out just fine - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yeah the quotes were actually from 2013 before KU offered. Mentioned KU was his dream school and that he would “love to play for coach Self”.
Completely agree about finding the right players.
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Yes we are recruiting him. We offered him last year when he was a Soph and wasn’t expected to graduate early. A lot of schools are showing interest to him right now since his announcement. I expect that we’ll be fighting UK and others for him.
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There isn’t anyone in the Top 100 that fits the 6’10 range your describing that is available or we are recruiting. We missed the boat on several guys going after Ayton.
The good thing is its early, spring time brings coaching chances and recruits look elsewhere. There will probably be a record number of transfers again this spring. We might be able to find a Veteran Big to bring in and use for a year. The international scene is always an option as well.
I think the staff is confident Billy Preston at 6’10 will be on campus and he’ll push Bragg for that starting spot next year at the 4. That’s two 6’10 guys we’ll have to play.
We’ll have 5 bigs on the team if everyone is back and makes it to campus. Going to be hard to get a top player to come here and become #6.
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@BeddieKU23 I’m just wondering, IF Billy is ok, academics and DOES land here 100% for sure, which I THINK when it’s all said and done he will, BUT I’m wondering just a smidge, you think their is a possibility Carlton does the in-thinkable and leaves?- -I mean like sure stupidity but still declares for the NBA OR decides to try over sea’s ball after this year? - -If Billy comes in and takes Carlton’s spot - -possible playing time? I know it sounds crazy but with what has happened this year, what he has been through, how he has played at least so far this year, then Billy landing here next year, maybe just might be to much and him just say screw it. - -What you think? Would be a really, really bad move but not totally impossible situation that could develop. What you think? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Nothing would surprise me when the year is over. We saw Diallo leave, we saw Selden leave, we saw Greene leave (either on his own or by the coaches wishes) so Carlton leaving for whatever reason it may be is not a far-fetched idea.
Looking at this from the outside-in Carlton had a good off-season, starting showing up on mock drafts in the 1st round and all the talk was that he improved his game and would replace Perry Ellis. Then he comes into the season and is immediately struggling. Then he has the off-the-court issue that put his name in a negative light. Now he’s the 7th man in our rotation backing up Lucas or filling in for Jackson when he’s in foul trouble. And instead of the always smiling kid we saw last year, we’ve seen obvious situations of frustration.
So if your Carlton do you persevere? Do you get away from it all and get a fresh start somewhere? Do you take the rest of this season to turn it around and show your coach and fans that KU is your home and future? He’s not getting drafted this year so his choices are stay and flip the script next year, or find a fresh start with a coach that may cater to his skill set. I hope he stays, another off-season fine tuning his body and working on his low post moves would give him the best chance to fulfill all the lofty expectations people have had of him since High School.
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Matt Scott reporting that Snacks will not be visiting KJ Fitzgerald.
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I posted this awhile back, don’t recall what thread.
All I want is Trae Young, so I’m cool with it.
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Me too, he may be the most important recruit in years
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Some Chatter from Trae’s HS coach that he will be here to see the game in Allen on Saturday against Oklahoma St.
He’s considering both schools so this is important that KU shows well at home.
All the recent visits to see him play and Trae coming in for an possible unofficial point very favorably in KU’s direction.
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@BeddieKU23 bet he won’t make it
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@Crimsonorblue22 I ought to flag your post! No room for realistic pessimism!
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I would obviously love to have Trae Young but it seems like we are going to be good with him or without him. We will without a doubt have guys back like Vick and Newman and I assume Devonte will be back for his senior year where he has a Frank Mason type season.
The recruiting of Young reminds me of a story a buddy of mine who is a huge Oklahoma fan once told me. According to my friend when Bob Stoops was recruiting Adrian Peterson he told him “We are going to win with or without you but if you want to win you should come play for us”. Does Trae want to win 90% of the games he plays in and be a star or does he want to go be a part of the rebuilding process at OU / OSU?
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@BeddieKU23 Sounds pretty goo, I am just feeling better as time goes on about him - -would love to get him - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Crimsonorblu Weather could definitely put a halt to that, although I still think come or not we are in good shape - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@dylans we are suppose to get 3/4 to 1 inch of ice, there’s a winter warning out, do you want your kid out? I know, I’m a mom. It’s already started in ok. Flag me! I’ll flag you back!
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Don’t flag me lol- - - I hate it when that happens lo - -have a great day every one and as always - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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If he makes it to this game, you have to think it bodes EXTREMELY well for KU.
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If Devonte were to come back then the recruitment of Trae Young is luxury over necessity.
KU fans seem to be divided on what they think Graham is going to do. Why has Self continued to recruit Trae Young with such earnest if Graham was coming back? I think Self knows barring an injury he’s going to head to the pro’s. The staff has been contingency planning for this since the summer.
This is the same situation we were in last year with Wayne Selden and Josh Jackson. Selden was gone and told the staff such but we all sat here and debated whether he should go or not. Then we signed the #1 player and SF in the class. Fast forward and Graham who’s likely said the same thing, we’re debating whether he’s good enough to leave while putting the full court recruiting press on the #3 Point Guard in the class.
Newman is not a pure point guard- he’s a scorer. He averaged 2 assists as a freshman and his Assist/TO ratio was 1.1 (barely above negative).
Vick is not even the discussion for playing PG. He has a negative assist to turnover ratio in 400 minutes of playing.
For Reference Grahams Assist/TO ration is 3.08 and Mason’s is 2.30.
Lastly I liked your AP reference. I hope Young decides to join KU and win games for us. The consensus seems to be that he wants to play for a team that will compete for championships.
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When is the storm coming in for those that don’t live in the KU area? Any local news reporting the time-line or likely hood of the game being canceled?
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They won’t cancel the game but it’s gonna be really bad.
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@BeddieKU23 coming from south, tmrw is the worst. I’m guessing osu is already there. Saw where they’re telling KU students coming back from break to get there by tonight… Bb players are a block away.
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We are tied at 36% with Oklahoma
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Interesting we have both KU guys on board with Trae now. Seems inevitable
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@BeddieKU23 Haven’t heard anything about it being Cancelled yet, things surpose to start late tonight and then periods of off and on tomorrow morning and through the day - most damaging later in the afternoon, tomorrow night and into Sunday. - -Looking at possible 1/2 to 1 inch of Ice- - we MAY be able to slip the game in - -just not sure, like I say starting later tonight and over night but light tonight, but worse tomorrow. - -Early morning - -noon just not quite sure how heavy will be by then. Getting to listen to the 12:00 news right now hold on - - - - OK Local weather here in Topeka JUST SAID the bulk of precipitation will occur Saturday Night then into Sunday. - -Patchy freezing drizzle tonight, and in the morning but light, but also said doesn’t take much for hazardous So there you go to the minute update how;s that lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Thank you! Sounds like Trae will be able to make the game.
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@BeddieKU23 Your quite welcome. - - Just saw the projected radar projection shows light in the morning, and the big part shows coming in around 3:30 - -4:00 P.M. Saturday afternoon then through the night and out of here by like 6-7 Sunday /night. - -Actually shows like the weatherman just said we might get a break in the light drizzle land that looks like around 12 tomorrow so that would be good.- Looks like game might be ok. - - You know Trae has been here enough EVEN if he isn’t here I think he has a pretty good feel he knows what it’s like.
You know here is a thought though. Trae made a statement a ways back saying he might be making his decision some time in January - would be really sweet if he comes tomorrow checks it out - -AGAIN talks to the staff, visits with the players, goes homes and then with in the next week says - -HEY I’m committing to the University of Kansas - that would be great - -hey doesn’t hurt to dream - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Having the same dream. Can’t imagine if he visits and leaves that place not wanting to play there.
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@jayballer54 Better yet, him and HCBS meet at center court at halftime and he signs his LOI.
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Well I Know how some feel about the CB and even myself am not rock solid on it - -BUT do put some into it and the last SIX predicts now belong to KU with him - hence that’s why it now shows 36-36 between us and OU - I remember when we were at 4% with him lol, ahh persistence always pays off, not to mention other players signing with UK - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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In the words of the immortal James Brown: “I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel good”.
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No way Coach Self does that. If he announces at the game, best bet is he does it like Selby did, he tells a court side reporter at half time .
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@JayHawkFanToo he was kidding
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Kidding? KIDDING? What is this kidding stuff? This is a serious sports forum with no room for kidding…
Of course…I am kidding…
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@Crimsonorblue22 It’s gonna be 70 and sunny tomorrow. I don’t care what the weather men say…I’ve got cows calving, so we beefed up the fence - it’ll still be flat with an 1" of ice. And I bought a generator for the house. But it’s going to be 70 and sunny so who cares?
Great day for a basketball game!
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@dylans I better have tv!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I think we should be fine at game time - -maybe pretty good chance of power outages later in the day, I’m afraid I’m gonna not have power for my Green Bay- - Dallas game Sunday, - but our game I think we gonna be ok - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well just red, - -Trae WILL NOT be here for the game tomorrow, because of the weather. - -Said they are looking at another date for a in-official visit - Looking at the 4th of February against Iowa State, sounds like he will make his decision after that sometime - -SOOOO there goes the Jan decision, not really that bad about the visit, he has been here multiple timed BUT just wish he would keep his timeline of this month - -dam, - -JUMPIN - -GEE - -HOSSA - -FATS. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Couple of days ago he said it’s up in the air when I officially decide.
Elijah Elliott 2017 SG is in town
