Keep the Doubters Coming!
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@JayHawkFanToo Regarding UNM, I am worried.
- Embiid got their big guy in foul trouble and he was a non-factor. Can Black do that?
- Embiid is worth more than the point differential between he and his replacement. It is hard to quantify how many points he prevents by altering shots.
- Their guard, Greenwood, did not play against us due to injury. He is back now.
- They appear to be playing their best ball right now.
- They beat SDSU…and they are good.
Now…should we win? Yes, but we have to play well for that to happen. Given our inconsistency, I think that is a reason to be concerned.
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@MoonwalkMafia Good post! I swing back and forth on this year’s team. I’m never as confident as I wish I could be and I won’t be surprised if they don’t make it past New Mexico State. If they make it past Syracuse/Ohio State, I’ll be surprised, and then it’s all gravy. For some reason I do think we have an even chance against Florida if we get that far. Go figure!
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“I’m personally pretty scared of Syracuse…”
Please… please… stop that!
Open your arms for that game… Andrew Wiggins might score 50 that night slashing through around the FT line in the big hole created after we nail a couple of 3s.
Syracuse zone works great against under-skilled teams and bad coaches.
We are going to avenge 2003 this year! Whether or not we win a national championship… if we just beat the s#it out of the Orangemen then we’ve had a pretty dang good year! (along with B12 #10)
I’m betting that Langford will be present for that game and he’ll let the boys know how important this win is… these young guns will LOVE Langford!
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Avenging Syracuse, yes, a thousand times yes! They also eliminated us in an elite 8 game when we were the better team in 96 I think. They played for the championship against Kentucky I think that year. We got em once in around 2000 the famous roy monkey off his back game press conference. We blew them out by about 30. Add another loss a few years ago in some Thanksgiving tourney in KC, and well, we need to beat Syracuse.
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I was watching bracketology on ESPN and NONE of the analysts had KU going to the Elite Eight.
If Self is as good of a motivator as we think he is, he will use all of the doubt to motivate them, specifically Tharpe and Ellis. The Ellis we saw against ISU is the one we need in the tournament.
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Do you think KU is 17 point worse without Embiid than with Embiid?
@JayHawkFanToo I think KU got 20 points from Embiid in a typical game…sometimes more: 10 points on offense – either through points or offensive rebounds that led to additional points… and 10 points on defense-- either through blocks, altered shots or defensive rebounds.
So, in my opinion, our chances against UNM w/o Embiid are 50-50.
Against Stanford I think we’re 60-40 and it hinges on Tharpe.
Most importantly, against Eastern Kentucky, we need to get business done. Otherwise our chances against UNM or Stanford go to 0%. (stating the obvious for effect…)
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You are assuming that the 20 points you say we lose (if Embiid does not play) would not be made up by Tarik, Jamari and even Landon; I just don’t think this is the case. Maybe they don’t combine for 20 like Embiid but I am sure they would be close to that. There would be a point difference but it would not be 20 points; I am not sure there is a player in the country that is worth a 20 point differential. Maybe we are just using different terms.
Embiid’s averages for the season are:
Games Played: 28
MPG: 23.1
PPG: 11.2
RPG: 8.1
APG: 1.4
SPG: 0.9
BPG: 2.6
TOPG: 2.4
These are the number we can realistically expect from him. I believe that between Tarik and Jamari they can cover the points and rebounds, but we would miss his defensive presence. I am confident that KU would beat New Mexico by at least a dozen. I watched their game against SDSU and they were comfortably ahead and almost got caught at the end.
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I think our chances against UNM relate more to which team wants this more. I think all March games are like that.
If we cruise in there looking ahead to the next round we won’t have a next round!
From here on out it is all about focusing inwards… letting the circus go by while maintaining everything right inside the team.
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The day I start worrying about playing New Mexico is the day I have to wonder if I’m really a K-State fan. I’m trying not to lose too much sleep …
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“…the day I have to wonder if I’m really a K-State fan.”
The day you start to wonder if you’re really a K-State fan will be the day I wear a MIzzou Tiger t-shirt with “Orangemen” sweat bottoms.
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Oh…the humanity!!!
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@drgnslayr I have a hard time wearing anything red here in Nebraska, cause when Ido all my friends and family think I have changed my alliance and went back to being a Husker.
That aint ever gonna happen!!!
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@JRyman as long as that red has a big a$$ jhawk on it, should be good!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I have one shirt like that and it confuses the he!! out of husker fan. love it!!!
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"The day I start worrying about playing New Mexico is the day I have to wonder if I’m really a K-State fan. "
PHOF
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(Sing to the tune of the Hallejujah Chorus of Handel’s Messiah)
Hallelujah
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
For ball lord James omnipotent reineth
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
For ball lord James omnipotent reigneth
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
For the lord James omnipotent reigneth
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
(For ball lord James omnipotent reigneth)
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
For ball lord James omnipotent reigneth
(Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah)
Hallelujah
The Field House of this world;
is become
the Field House of our Lord,
and of His Game
and of His Game
And He shall jam for ever and ever
And he shall jam forever and ever
And he shall jam forever and ever
And he shall jam forever and ever
Coach of coaches forever and ever hallelujah hallelujah
and Phog of Phogs forever and ever hallelujah hallelujah
Coach of coaches forever and ever hallelujah hallelujah
and Phog of Phogs forever and ever hallelujah hallelujah
Coach of coaches forever and ever hallelujah hallelujah
and Phog of Phogs
Coach of coaches and Phog of Phogs
And he shall jam
And he shall jam
And he shall jam
He shall jam
And he shall jam forever and ever
Coach of coaches forever and ever
and Phog of Phogs hallelujah hallelujah
And he shall jam forever and ever
Coach of coaches and Phog of Phogs
Coach of coaches and Phog of Phogs
And he shall jam forever and ever
Forever and ever and ever and ever
(Coach of coaches and Phog of Phogs)
Hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah hallelujah
Hallelujah
–George Friderick Handelbate, class of 1703 Martin Luther University of Halle-Wittenberg (1702–1703), BA University of Kansas, M.S. 1898
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There, is that positive enough for you.
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@MoonwalkMafia Thank you for your kind words. I like the fact our young team could possibly play two teams we’ve already faced on the 2nd leg of the next two weekends, which gives Coach the full week for both opponents in the Thursday/Friday games that we haven’t faced. Big advantage, even if that 4th opponent is Florida. I also have no fear of a slow paced New Mexico team that shouldn’t be running past our guards. I love this team, and I think we have a legitimate shot at a national championship, regardless of who we have to play. I don’t imagine those other teams in our bracket are real happy about having to potentially play that amazing young team, either. RCJHGKU
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@Crimsonorblue22 I think we get Embiid back in the New Mexico/ Stanford winner game. Of course, I have no proof, it’s just a hunch. Worst case: we get him back in the Sweet 16 game.
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@KUSTEVE I hope you are right, feels so secretive!
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Hope you are right, but I kind of doubt he plays again this season.
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@jaybate 1.0 afraid of this!
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@JayHawkFanToo I hope you are right, but I am inclined to agree with bskeet. If play UNM and win without a problem, I will come right to this sight and congratulate you on your insight…and be glad to do it!
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@HighEliteMajor The same goes for you!
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I’m probably overly pessimistic, because I have had some nagging back problems over the years.
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@Hawk8086 I saw the game at Sprint Center. You are spot on.
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@jaybate 1.0 Im also torn. I think this team is great, nigh unstoppable when they are at their best. But, when they have lapses in judgment on defense or lack of motivation and energy, they could lose to TCU. Its maddening. I WANT them to win and get to the second weekend, get Embiid back and mow them down from there. I just hope the team that plays this weekend is the team that kicked Texas’ ass last month or whenever it was. I also think Wiggins will come through for KU these next two games. He is our alpha dog with a cool surfer dudes mentality. He will slaughter all his match ups and if the rest of our guys even play just better than average, we shouldn’t have too much trouble this weekend. But I do think the games will be closer than any of us will like. Oh ya, RE: the Big dang chip thing. I say bring it. I know what Wiggins can do when he feels slighted in the least. Lets hear some more Wiggins aint all that talk and he’ll go off for 30/8/4 both games. Clearing the path for us to the sweet 16 and breaking the KU Freshmen scoring record in the process. BTW, he only needs 23 more points to do it.
