Royals
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@globaljaybird I know, still wanted him
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@globaljaybird gonna have to put you down!
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@globaljaybird i donāt think we have the pieces to make a run. Iām ready to trade everyone Perez and Duffy included. Restock the farm system and have a team ready in 3 or 4 years.
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@Ralph whoa! Salvy?
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@Ralph By early June we shouldl all know. From now till then market any of your 2018 FAās for whatever the best offer is & after that unload em all cause you no longer are guaranteed a first round pick when losing one. Which is total BS IMO. Is not likely to move Salvy cause heās so young, affordable, & a fan favorite. They still must have a product that puts fans in the seats to pay expenses so a total makeover wonāt likely happen right away. It is anything but cheap to attend MLB games anymore. Most all are on tv or streamed anyway.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Sorry-ia girl. I didnāt mean to give ya da blues ā¦ Iād keep Dyson & Paulo to cover center & extra man. Both can still fly & are affordable for now. But if we canāt extend JD at a reasonable rate, move him too & default Paulo to center with Soler in RF. What we really need is starting pitching, & we have some gold glovers to entice trade partners. Ralph makes good sense also, get all the young prospects we can for whomever we set free. And the more, the merrier.
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Salvy is the type of player that comes around every 10 years. I heard an interview with an MLB scout that stated that without a doubt he will be the best Latin American catcher ever and one of the best ever, regardless of nationality.
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@BShark The Patriots analogy works, but they have a 40 year old quarterback performing at a high level. When they have to cut ties with Bradyā¦
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@globaljaybird Unless I have the wrong Hunter Dozier, he hit .296 between NWA and Omaha and also cracked 23 HR. He is a good Spring training away from being ready to go.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.cgi?id=dozier000hun
As far as Cuthbert goes, he makes the routine plays. Nothing flashy, but he was just fine in the field. And as far as a move to 2Bā¦http://kingsofkauffman.com/2016/11/21/cuthbert-playing-second-winter-ball/
The move makes sense to me. Beef up the middle of the order. I do like Whit, but he is the utility guy we need. Thatās it. He isnāt a great hitter and has shown that.
I honestly donāt care what return we get for Cain or Dyson. We just need to bulk up our younger players in the farm system. Preferably Iād like to see us get pitching prospects that our inept staff hasnāt touched yet.
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@Kcmatt7 Thanks for the stats. The graphics from the MLB/Royals link were not as thorough as your site but said in print nothing abt 2016 at Omaha. His avg was in the metrics, but again, the narrative was not flattering at all. Maybe has not been updated to include 2016 because prior to that, he showed little when floundering in Arkansas. I know the feeling, Iām 15 miles from the state line. Ha!
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@globaljaybird This is obviously just me spitballing. I think Dozier starts in AAA again this season and Merrifield starts at 2B. BUT, if Dozier continues to crush, we will have to make the move. And you canāt keep Cuthbertās bat out of the lineup. So the only logical move is to take Merrifield out and just make him play the utility role. He should still play about every other day. Whit will be 28 next season, so heās at his ceiling. And we saw it last year. A hot start and a quick cool down. He did hit .280 through about 80 games. So its still not a bad play a 2B. But if there is a better option, a .280 hitter is an exceptional utility guy. And we can keep everyone fresh that way.
Unless you see it a different way maybe? Would you keep Cain and Dyson? Dyson is 32 and will be 33 before the end of the season. He is one nagging injury from being a very below average player. Wouldnāt it be best to trade him? Cain will be 31 when the season gets going and he has had multiple years with injuries already. Wouldnāt it be best to trade him now if we can land a decent prospect?
If we canāt land anything of value for Cain, he is the type of guy you just have to make sure stays healthy all season. Fowler is going to get a deal over the Qualified offer amount. So Cain probably would too. So holding on to Cain makes much more sense if you canāt find a decent trade. But Dyson, well it is time to let him go. Especially with us having a crowded outfield now with the Soler trade.
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@Kcmatt7 IMO you can get a decent arm for Dyson & can play all OF pos & be a decent leadoff guy. Cain-hurt too much & could be a tremendous DH for many teams- us included. Doubtful he gets more than a 2yr deal on open market but some dummy may just do that. Doubt if itās KC. They ādummied outā on Gordo last year. Funny though, I thought the Infante deal taught them the lesson abt over extending guaranteed deals. We still have some of his money on the payroll in 2017 I believe.
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@Kcmatt7 I havenāt been up to speed on Royals since we left the metro in Spring, but worked pt for a company with business ties to them for the past couple of years. A few former players would stop in & chat, but mgrs. always got the extra tickets-imagine that. A former utility infielder has mentioned Modesi, Colon, Cuth & Whit often. Says Mondesi is the def fav of the club & Colon the worst offense of the bunch. Also I think you nailed it on Whit. 2nd & 3rd time through the league he fell flat as a pancake. Maybe good role player for the NL.
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18230565/washington-nationals-acquire-adam-eaton-white-sox
White Sox are all in on this rebuild.
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@Crimsonorblue22 so far this year weāve lost Davis, Volquez, Morales and a # of role players. In return we got an outfielder. Next years free agents are.
Lorenzo Cain
Jason Vargas Mike Moustakas Alcides Escobar Danny Duffy Jarrod Dyson Eric Hosmer Clay MortensenThe Royals have alot of choices. 3 of them are:
-Play out the season and let them walk and go back to years of sub 500 ball,-sign a couple and hope to play 500 ball
-sell everything while you can get max value and rebuild.
Iām for the rebuild thatās why I said sell Salvy. Heās a top 3 player at his position with a cheap contract and would likely bring in 3 top prospects. The Royals have abused Salvy over the last 3 years heās caught like 500 more innings than anyone else and had multiple concussions. By the time we have another team ready to contended he will be used up.
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@Ralph but I love him! whoās clay?
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@Crimsonorblue22 we ran into him at the Lakewood price chopper. He took a picture with the grandkids and shook hands with everyone. Nice guy, but I really donāt know him. Just another player.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Last team was, I think Red Sox. Is a pitcher who is under contract for 2017. Think heās been outta BB for a year or 2.
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Jarrod Dyson traded to Mariners for RHP Nathan Karns.
Donāt know what to say about the trade. Needed to happen after we got Soler. Was either going to be him or Cain.
Karns Put up pretty bad numbers last year and ended his season on the DL I believe. He will be under control until 2021, so I like the trade from that perspective. Karns has an upside still being only 25 as well. If he could find any consistency, he might be a solid rotation piece. Worst-case, he will be a solid bullpen arm.
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@Kcmatt7 Iām very sad. Canāt wear my, dat what speed do shirt anymore!
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@Crimsonorblue22 It had to be doneā¦ Trading a bench player for a possible starting pitcher is definitely the right move. Especially a 30+ year old speedster who is one blown tire away from being worthless.
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@Crimsonorblue22 still have Gore. Younger, faster and cheaper.
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@Ralph I was attached!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Well young lady just cause @brooksmd 's Cubs are reigning WS Champs it certainly doesnāt mean you, or I, or anyone else canāt wear their 2015 WS Champ shirts or hats-HELLO !! Championships is what dat speed didā¦Wear em proud girl, at least for another year or soā¦ Like I said, I hoped we could get a decent arm for him & hopefully not a damaged one.
Jarrod Dyson @mrzoombiya Itās was a blessing from above to be apart of such a class act organization#KcRoyals I really enjoyed every moment I spent as a royal!!! pic.twitter.com/H1K9zhGEFi Follow
Jarrod Dyson @mrzoombiya @mrzoombiya Iām going to miss u guys #royalsfans I canāt think u enough for sticking with me threw the good and the bad!!! 4:15 PM - 6 Jan 2017 540 540 Retweets 2,813
2,813 likesIām gonna miss that defense girl cause speed do dat too !!
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@globaljaybird Class comments by Dyson. Gonna miss the excitement his speed brought.
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@brooksmd Plus is not ALL about speed entirely. Dyson was also very well experienced in situational baseball too. Not just a stat padder that would swipe a base whenever he could, but had savvy enough to know when not to take an unnecessary risk. Also his defense this year in particular was as good as anyone Iāve seen play OF for KC for ever it seems. This is a fav of mine-as good as it gets. Seattleās getting a helluva high quality man & player IMO.
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@globaljaybird he covered for all the hi paid outfielders who were hurt all the time! Hate it!
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@Ralph gore canāt play outfield or at least I havenāt seen him play there.
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@Crimsonorblue22 he canāt bat either. 3 years ago Dyson was said to be unreliable in the outfield and his bat wasnāt good enough. I canāt remember a 50th round draft pick doing more than Dyson did and now heās been traded for a pitcher that may end up in the starting rotation.
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@brooksmd & @Crimsonorblue22 hereās a link to a great story about Bo Jackson. Couldnāt resist sending it to youā¦ I know he was almost super human to watch & wonder WOE he could possibly do next ?!
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@globaljaybird Nice find! Great to read about former White Sox players!
I actually was in Kaufmann the day Bo got his 1st major league hit. It was against the White Sox and Steve Carlton believe it or not. Boās first at bat he hit a long towering flyball over the top of the foul poll! The umpire had to make a judgment call on whether it was fair or foul. Bo was halfway to 3rd when the ump called it foul. The crowd went nuts!
His 2nd at bat he got his 1st hit, an unmemorable infield single.
His 3rd time up the Soxā lefty was throwing a nice game with the good guys up 2-0. Bo came up with no one out, and runners at 1st and 2nd. He came within an eyelash of grounding into a 5-4-3 triple play! I never saw a replay so I donāt know how close it actually was, but it was close.
I also saw Bo once in Chicago at old Sox park and he caught a fly ball at the wall. He took one step and threw a strike to home plate! No one hop throw. It was too late to get the runner, but an amazing 350 foot throw.
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@globaljaybird @Crimsonorblue22 Royals and Hos agree to $12.25 million extension.
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@brooksmd Thx boss. Avoiding arbitration & ugly negotiations. Also Moore ends up with a contract that can be moved. Hoz is set on a mega deal so just maybe he will give a little to be a Royal for life - Ya think ?! All shā aside , heās the one guy of the bunch work the risk of a long term dealā¦ good to very good O numbers, multiple GG seasons (4) , & young & stud enough to be.āDa Manā for the next 7-8 years. Ink em !! We can always tell @Crimsonorblue22 itās just for her !! Sheād digit .
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@globaljaybird I know it is for me! Still mad about dys!
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@brooksmd @globaljaybird yeah! Signed duff to five year deal
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Moose should be next
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@AsadZ Agreed. Sign him now before he puts up big numbers this year.
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Sad news, sexy eddy
Great day to celebrate Danny Duffy but sad day for former #Royal Edinson Volquez. His brother stabbed to death in Dominican Republic. @KCTV5
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Ace Ventura killed in car wreck, very very sad! Speechless!
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Original report was based on a tweeter post but Dominican papers just starting to report. A very tragic and sad event, particularly for Royals fans.
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@Crimsonorblue22 @JayHawkFanToo
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/01/22/yordano-venutra-killed-in-an-auto-accident/
(The misspelling is not by me.)
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:ā(
Sad to see someone die so young.
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Thoughts on the Brandon Moss signing?
Personally, I think it is a spectacular move. Cheap verteran player that should fit will in the lockerroom. And he is very dangerous against Righties. Iām sure the plan is to platoon him at DH. Bet he puts up a career average this season. He also gives us outfield and 1B depth.
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@Kcmatt7 You nailed it, platoon player. Lots of pop against righties none against lefties. I expect 20-25 homers. It goes against some of what the Royals have been doing lately, he isnāt a contact hitter, but rather a big strikeout guy.
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@dylans The lineup has some pop this year. Might be the best home run lineup we have ever put together.
Projected Order
- 1 - Escobar - 3 HR
- 2 - Moose- 23 HR
- 3 - Cain - 18 HR
- 4 - Hosmer - 20 HR
- 5 - Soler - 23 HR
- 6 - Moss/Obrien - 25+ HR
- 7 - Salvy - 18 HR
- 8 - Gordon - 16 HR
- 9 - Merrifield/Colon/Mondesi - 5 HR
What I would really like to see, personally, is to play Cuthbert at 2B. If we are going to switch to this all or nothing lineup, can we just commit to it? Cuthbert could be a .280 15 HR guy at 2B. Adding that to this lineup is scary! Not to mention he is a solid utility infielder. And we donāt need a utility outfielder this season. At least not to start it. Cuthbert should start at 2B. He is the only one out of all of our options that has proven he can hit at the major league level.
Honestly, this lineup has the potential to score the most runs in the league. A couple of guys need comeback years. A couple of guys are in contract years. That is a recipe for runs.
Pitching should be the only thing that holds us back this season.
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@Kcmatt7 From a MLB leading 6.05 strikeouts per 9 innings in 2015 to a 7.65 per in 2016, letās hope that lineup. really produces pop & not a whole bunch more āwhiffsā
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Jason Hammel will be a Royal.
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@BShark Thx for da update. Would not have caught that until tomorrow. They really need another strong arm Some of their projections like Strahm, Vargas, etc., are wishful thinking Iām afraid