It's Gameday! Predictions & Such
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@wissox about that call during ou game… remember that strip Frank or was it DG had before half? Right in front of Self, the ref out of position, cost us a T, clearly a bad call! We earned that win!
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KU - 48 - 1
Halftime score.
117 - 6
Final score. We need to work on our second half defense…
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@nuleafjhawk I’d say we need to work on our first half offense.
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@BeddieKU23 Do you think we will see hang over from frank like last years OU game? Thats one thing that scares me is him getting hurt or worn out early in the year waiting on the young fellas to come around.
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I worry that Frank tries to do too much. Down the stretch against Indiana just about every play was Mason going either one on one or in the pick and roll. He really didn’t get anyone else involved in the offense down the stretch.
Speaking of the pick and roll, why is KU not showing the PnR with Jackson as the screener? If you’re going to go small, there should be some Mason-Jackson and Graham-Jackson PnR. Let Jackson get that switch and catch with the other team’s PG on him in the post. That’s a potential quality touch. Plus, he’s so quick and agile he will be tough to contain for a lot of bigger players as the roll man. I’d like to see more of that.
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Anyone think they’ll post our lil guys up?
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I wonder how much of Frank’s play in the first game was by design. Indiana didn’t have anyone to stop him, they even tried going with Morgan who had a good 7 inches on him and that didn’t work. How much was this Frank being Frank or Self saying go make a play… Tonight should shed more light into how much of this team is running through him.
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Hopefully our other guards play well Mason, Graham, Vick and JJ all have 40% FG or less, DG and JJ less than 28%. I also think Frank shoots too many 3s 1 for 5 vs IU and we dont really need him to shoot them, I think self need to the RusRob rule on him, no 3s after the first 5 minutes of the game unless he’s wide open.
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I don’t think so with this being Frank’s last go-around. Its just as likely the confidence he gained from being the “guy” in game 1 continues. His wheels should be good to go right now
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That’s a fair point to consider. It’s possible that it was based on matchups, but that has generally not been Self’s style to target specific matchups. If that is his style now, then I am actually more encouraged about Friday’s result despite the loss.
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@BeddieKU23 Lets hope is it 8;30 yet?? lol
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I could be grasping at straws because what we do know about Frank, as good as he is, he’s good about getting into a vacuum all by himself and forgetting he has teammates. Obviously without his heroics against Indiana we were cooked and if he makes that FT its likely we would have won the game.
With the amount of P&R’s he was using to get into the lane it seemed orchestrated by Self. Indiana didn’t have a PG who matched his quickness and Mason took advantage all night. Hopefully KU will find 1 or 2 matchups to exploit. They are 6 deep and the 3 other guys they are playing are out of necessity.
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I wish!
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I’ll take the under that I’m yelling at my television within 30 seconds of the start of this game.
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Final prediction. Stone cold lead pipe lock. Duke 88, Kansas 83
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I don’t really care much for predicting the score as much as I would like to see our big guys and wings work their butts off for defensive rebounds. That means playing smart, like not standing under the goal. These guys are physically and mentally capable of putting their body on someone and pushing them out - that is pretty simple folks and requires no basketball talent to do.
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I think the outcome of this game will be determined in great part by how the game is called.;quick whistles to key players could determine which team’s starting players stay in longer. Logic would indicate that this type of scenario would favor KU since key Duke players will not be playing anyway; however, when is the last time refs did not favor Duke? In a close game, the refs will find a way to help Duke win; the only way to neutralize them is to keep a 20 point lead through out the game to prevent end of game shenanigans.
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@HawkChamp said:
I don’t really care much for predicting the score as much as I would like to see our big guys and wings work their butts off for defensive rebounds. That means playing smart, like not standing under the goal. These guys are physically and mentally capable of putting their body on someone and pushing them out - that is pretty simple folks and requires no basketball talent to do.
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I’m just shooting the shit on the predicto.
Like you, I really just want to see the team look better on the glass, and moving the ball on offense. Even if it’s a loss, as long as the quality of basketball improves for KU I will be happy. Remarkable that KU was in the game against Indiana tbqh.
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
I think the outcome of this game will be determined in great part by how the game is called.;quick whistles to key players could determine which team’s starting players stay in longer. Logic would indicate that this type of scenario would favor KU since key Duke players will not be playing anyway; however, when is the last time refs did not favor Duke? In a close game, the refs will find a way to help Duke win; the only way to neutralize them is to keep a 20 point lead through out the game to prevent end of game shenanigans.
The refs are going to be swallowing their whistle so much that the NCAA hired some EMTs to be at the game to perform the Heimlich as needed.
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Jesse Newell pointed out that Duke does 2 things very well, they don’t foul and they take quick 3’s to avoid turnovers. We may not be able to exploit them especially if they don’t foul and the way we guarded the perimeter in the opener.
He did point out that they struggle to rebound, they give up easy shots. So 2 things that could be advantages is KU will have to make good shots, and might be able to get missed shots at a higher rate
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@BShark I’d be so happy if the refs would let the boys play a little like back in my day, a phyiscal game i love.
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The Dook refs and announcers get old fast…
ESPN headline right now : How did college basketball become Duke, Kentucky and everybody else?
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@BShark It really is quite remarkable. Indiana shot 50% on 15 made threes, we made seven and shot 33%; they outrebounded us by 11, and Landon, Carlton, Josh and Devonte did not do much, yet we were still in a position to win.
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@dylans said:
The Dook refs and announcers get old fast…
ESPN headline right now : How did college basketball become Duke, Kentucky and everybody else?
Barrrrrrrrrfffffff
@HawkChamp said:
@BShark It really is quite remarkable. Indiana shot 50% on 15 made threes, we made seven and shot 33%; they outrebounded us by 11, and Landon, Carlton, Josh and Devonte did not do much, yet we were still in a position to win.
Yep. Gives me hope going forward.
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@dylans I think its funny UK is even in that conversation 1 NC in the last decade and a half.
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@dylans ESPN hype machine - I have made the choice this year to not follow national media for a reason. I will stick to the KU sites.
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I don’t want the facts to ruin a good narrative but look at the FT’s attempted and fouls called the last time we played Duke. http://www2.kusports.com/documents/2013/nov/13/ku-duke-box/
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@wissox said:
I don’t want the facts to ruin a good narrative but look at the FT’s attempted and fouls called the last time we played Duke. http://www2.kusports.com/documents/2013/nov/13/ku-duke-box/
Well if that happens again Duke gets rolled since they basically have 6 guys atm…
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@BShark Ya but i also remember them fouling at the end of the game so it was pretty even.
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@BShark said:
Final prediction. Stone cold lead pipe lock. Duke 88, Kansas 83
You predict we…lose? Seriously?
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@BShark Looks like it was a foul fest too, wasn’t it?
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@KUSTEVE and Jessie
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@KUSTEVE said:
@BShark said:
Final prediction. Stone cold lead pipe lock. Duke 88, Kansas 83
You predict we…lose? Seriously?
I mean…it sucks but I think it is what happens. Should go on a nice winning streak after though.
@wissox said:
@BShark Looks like it was a foul fest too, wasn’t it?
These early games often are because RULES EMPHASIS until the refs ease back into their old ways before conference season.
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http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/114939898/
Jessie N has Duke.
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This UK, MSU game is boring as hell, KSU was down 11-2 to Omaha a little bit ago.
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@kjayhawks said:
This UK, MSU game is boring as hell, KSU was down 11-2 to Omaha a little bit ago.
They were struggling against some patsy in their first game too before they pulled away. Sneed and Wade are good, but that’s about it.
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@BShark said:
@kjayhawks said:
This UK, MSU game is boring as hell, KSU was down 11-2 to Omaha a little bit ago.
They were struggling against some patsy in their first game too before they pulled away. Sneed and Wade are good, but that’s about it.
So of course other players are leading the way for them today. Honestly Brown isn’t a bad guard, but not particularly great.
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@BShark Ya I’m undecided if I want them to get back to decent or let Weber work his running things in to the ground stay around.
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Bridges is the only player for MSU that belongs on the floor with the UK players. And it’s not like he has been great tonight, since it’s hard 1 on 5.
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I just want the rest of this game to go by quickly. Stop fouling and stuff.
