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  I think the way we are recruiting is the way we will recruit as long as we have Self at the helm. Kansas is a top 5 program, with all the accolades and reputation of an elite program. The Elite high school kids these days barely make it to Sophomore year of high school before they are being hailed as potential 1 and done’s. The exposure has created hype and a belief in these kids that they are bigger than College before they even arrive. Very few like an Embiid blow up so late in the process that it takes the media and scouts to catch on. Self knows his program has a strong brand, Wiggins and others have lifted it even further. We are in with most of the top remaining kids left in the 15 class because KU is a darn good place to play. We are in with many of the top kids in the 2016, 2017 classes because Self knows that he can develop talent no matter the skill level they come in with. Self gets paid millions to mold a team his way, no matter if its a 3 star or 5 star player. He knows the risks either way on how both can or don’t pan out. It’s his job to figure out how to consistently put Kansas in a position for championships. The development method can be more satisfying to him and to the fans because both get to witness progression over the years. 1 and done’s leave an unfinished business feeling if those star players don’t bring home championships. We are always left wondering “what if they came back another year”. We might gain more brand recognition with the 1 and done method but it might not always be what’s best for the long term of the program. That’s why Self is still one of the best because he gets a Landon Lucas, a Frank Mason, a Jamari Traylor to mold around the All American’s. Graham could be one of the best point guards Self has ever had. Who would have thought from a kid who was once signed to Appalachian St. Svi is a 2-3 year player who could be an All Big 12 kid in a few years. It’s his talent evaluation on the less heralded players that we should scrutinize just as much as the stars because those might be the foundations for years to come in this program. Now if the NBA 1 and done rule gets changed, maybe a shift in the recruiting of top kids changes slightly to where kids buy into a school more… Kids might be more likely to stay for a 3rd year where if they are academically gifted can get a degree and still hit the league at a young age. Self has changed with the times. The 1 and done created this ongoing trend, only a rule change can swing it a different way. We know whatever happens Kansas will always be near the top.
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  The Only Question Was "Who"
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  @globaljaybird I am not much of a fisherman either, so the boat was used for water skiing and having fun with friends. Hot tubs, pools and boats are definitely not in the future for me.
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  Kelly Oubre
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  @HighEliteMajor Coach Self says a lot of thing on his radio show and interviews, but at game time he tends to go back to his tried and true system.
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  Proposal: The Not Responsible for NCAA Penalties Hall of Fame
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  @jaybate-1.0 How about …give a hoot, don’t pollute…for those that were around in the 70’s.
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  Bill Self: KU basketball will 'shoot more 3s than we've maybe ever shot' JNEW & cjonline
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  @drgnslayr I loved Releford as a player. Perhaps my favorite on ball defender in Self’s tenure here. And the picture of what I prefer when it comes to recruiting players, and building a program. On Perry, I’m skeptical. I just think guys with that type of passive personality can’t really be counted on as a go to type player. I think he can fit well as a second or third option. I have almost thought the opposite sometimes … whatever he brings us on D is a bonus, just freaking score the basketball. Score. Make up for your defensive inefficiency and put the ball in the hoop … a lot. I sense with the chemistry on this team right now, it will work out fine.
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  I’m certain there are other celebs that attend a game now and then and go incognito. Just like there are KU fans that mask being a Jayhawk in their daily lives. Red/Blue Man Group
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  That’s crazy about the kid taking others ACTs. I can’t recall the protocol for when I took the ACT wayyyyy back in the day but when I took my boards 7 or so years ago they didn’t mess around. Just short of DNA testing to prove my identity
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  ABSOLUTELY!!!
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  Adapting Tradition, or Excavating the 45 Degree Angle of Attack on the X-Axis
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  @jaybate-1.0 Very interesting read, JB. I really enjoyed your “angle” on playing at a 45-degree angle. That concept brought something else into my mind. Self-defense training. When a gunman draws a weapon on you at point-blank range, if you immediately run away from him at a 45% angle, you have less than a 2% chance of being shot and killed. Less than 2% chance. I’m not sure what study was used, and how accurate it is, but the theory makes perfect sense. So does that mean it is harder for basketball players to execute passes and other duties at a 45% angle? Makes me wonder. A few days ago I had a very brief chat with Bill Self (about 30 seconds long). He just gave a speech and was fretting about having a short team. He was fretting… but we all know Bill now and at this time of the year he always undersells his team. I planted a seed in him, telling him to stop fretting about it and focus on the truth. And the truth is more than 90% of the game of basketball is played at the level of 6’3" to the ground. Frank Mason doesn’t even have to reach up on tiptoes to be a part of over 90% of the game. This is at the very heart of x-axis basketball. Bill paused briefly after my comment and then agreed with me. Seed #1… planted.
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  First Exhibition: Mason Was The Star
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  Note: Too long, so I moved this to its own thread.
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  @nuleafjhawk I like it. Reminds me of another SD hit,“My old school”
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  @drgnslayr The anti-flopping rule is in effect the entire season not just the playoffs; it started with the 2012-2013 season. First time is a warning, second time is $5k, third time is $10k.
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  Time for Self to man up and adopt Oubre's 'Do
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  @VailHawk and @nuleafjhawk and et al Howling!
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  Who’s this Mizzou you speak of? b)
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  Tomorrow and other topics
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  @Kip_McSmithers I just meant in addition to the underclass men, I didn’t know so many graduates transferred too.
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  @globaljaybird I’d give you two thumbs up if I could. That’s exactly what I’ve been waiting for as well! Now the speculation about the team will end and the second guessing of the coach will begin.
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  @Wigs2 said: @BeddieKU23 Like you–and most everyone else on this board–I liked CF and hated to see him go. However, I don’t agree with your remarks that he should stick out the year or play till semester’s end. And, if you think it through, I’m not too sure you would either. First, the time and effort he puts into practice, both emotionally and physically, is time that he could use to find another school, as well as to prepare mentally to think for the first time “I’m not a Jayhawk.” Second, would you really want a player to be playing for you who knows that he is not going to be a part of the team for the entire year? A player who in this case is playing for the Jayhawks but is thinking about playing at WSU (or any other school)? Third, if you were a coach for a school that he might be interested in, is it possible that you would wonder why he is still playing for KU if he wants to leave? I hate to see him go but I really don’t want to see someone who doesn’t give his full effort physically and emotionally. Just my opinion. I don’t agree but that’s okay we all have own opinion on this situation. The staff places a great deal of time with these kids from hudy to the assistants and so on. For him to quit right before the season to me is a slap in the face. I don’t think that if a kid thinks about transferring in the beginning/middle or end of the year will play with any less heart in the program. They all want to play at the end of the day and we never question kids commitment when they transfer at years end (White). So I don’t agree that because a kids leaving in the beginning that we should have expected him to not have his heart in it. I think if he had stuck it out and seen where his minutes were and role was with this team in real game time that he might have rediscovered what brought him here in the first place. A lot of people thought the way he played at the end would be a sign of good things to come. I did as well, and more than anything expected him as a Jr and Sr. to be very important to this teams success. Lucas red-shirting isn’t the norm anymore, we may be over getting the Releford, Morningstar, Withey types to stick it out. It’s sad because Kansas in the Self era has been made on CF types becoming Sr. monsters.