Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD Moon Jae-in
I’m not a educated as you. You’ll have to explain.
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@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
no if you look I was taling about not having to have blind faith to realize that the game he mentioned being played on CBS . Don’t need blind faith OR hope to know KU was really good in 2008
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesn’t have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. That’s my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
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No.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesn’t have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. That’s my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
How did that small state produce so many more tests than us? We still haven’t caught up to them in testing numbers.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesn’t have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. That’s my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
What are you even talking about here?
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
How did that small state produce so many more tests than us? We still haven’t caught up to them in testing numbers.
Good question I guess we can blame the whole world? Maybe they don’t have a fda
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesn’t have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. That’s my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
What are you even talking about here?
Trump is hanging his hat on French scientists cure or curb of the coronavirus.
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@benshawks08 ty you for being civil. It’s really refreshing
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 There’s a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we aren’t united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesn’t absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No let’s tell every American you screwed. Then let’s see what happens? You have guns? Because you’ll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesn’t have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. That’s my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
What are you even talking about here?
Trump is hanging his hat on French scientists cure or curb of the coronavirus.
Hadn’t heard about that. Have heard there’s a scientist in Singapore who has developed a yes that can tell if you’ve EVER had covid-19. Likely to be able to tell up to 20 years later if you ever got it. Not so helps right now but could be going forward as we try to track how this thing got so out of control.
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Good thread on how the FDA boned this from the start https://twitter.com/alecstapp/status/1241027712233410560?s=21
Also, thank you for the kind words @benshawks08!
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https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1241799566699233291?s=21
Both parties still pulling this crap. Just get it done!
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Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
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As far as I know
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1241799566699233291?s=21
Both parties still pulling this crap. Just get it done!
I’d ever there was a time to cut the bs it is now.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 ty you for being civil. It’s really refreshing
Is this for real or ironic. Not trying to start stuff. Just really can’t tell! Civility isn’t always my strong suit.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1241799566699233291?s=21
Both parties still pulling this crap. Just get it done!
It’s insane. The Senate almost had a deal then Pelosi comes in all LEEEEEROY JEEEEENKINS and could nuke the whole thing.
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@FarmerJayhawk https://apple.news/AbfvdNF6xQBCVotvOwpqLNQ
Think it’s bad?
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
I saw this the other day, and holy moly is this study absolute garbage. Without getting too into the grimy details, essentially the study had no real randomization so it violates every single assumption we make in running RCT’s. It’s also seriously underpowered (n=36). The outcome is viral load, not whether the patients actually got better, so we don’t really know a whole lot beyond that. In about half the days of the study, control patients weren’t even tested for virus. That’s really bad. At best the study is useless, at worst leads us down a rabbit hole of pursuing treatments that may be really harmful to non-COVID patients (e.g. folks with Lupus who are treated this way).
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk https://apple.news/AbfvdNF6xQBCVotvOwpqLNQ
Think it’s bad?
It’s not good! It’ll take days for the House to draft and vote on its bill. Not time we have at the moment. This may be the cabin fever taking hold, but I like Bernie’s plan + the Senate plan for business: $2k/month for everyone as long as the pandemic is here and $1.5 trillion in forgivable loans to small businesses (forgiveness if they maintain payroll). Simple, quick, robust enough to avoid mass layoffs.
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Good thing no one is struggling financially in the mean time…
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@BShark probably are. I’m more concerned about the safety of the medical community. I can’t believe we are living in a world where we are sewing medical masks.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
I saw this the other day, and holy moly is this study absolute garbage. Without getting too into the grimy details, essentially the study had no real randomization so it violates every single assumption we make in running RCT’s. It’s also seriously underpowered (n=36). The outcome is viral load, not whether the patients actually got better, so we don’t really know a whole lot beyond that. In about half the days of the study, control patients weren’t even tested for virus. That’s really bad. At best the study is useless, at worst leads us down a rabbit hole of pursuing treatments that may be really harmful to non-COVID patients (e.g. folks with Lupus who are treated this way).
And so what would the great @FarmerJayhawk do? Lol Where Is your evidence that study is a Joke? I know how you like to throw around your opinion without Any evidence. Oh I forgot when the great @FarmerJayhawk says it’s crap it’s crap. Lmao
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk https://apple.news/AbfvdNF6xQBCVotvOwpqLNQ
Think it’s bad?
It’s not good! It’ll take days for the House to draft and vote on its bill. Not time we have at the moment. This may be the cabin fever taking hold, but I like Bernie’s plan + the Senate plan for business: $2k/month for everyone as long as the pandemic is here and $1.5 trillion in forgivable loans to small businesses (forgiveness if they maintain payroll). Simple, quick, robust enough to avoid mass layoffs.
Crap you know it and so do i
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See what @FarmerJayhawk isnt telling you. You need the house and the senate to pass a stimulus package. Yet it’s easier to blame Trump.
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This seems good.
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Great read @BShark
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It will be interesting to see where we are when this blows over. I’m trying to find an article that I read talking about the possibility of millions being jobless and starving by next winter.
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Guess everyone is passing time arguing about Trump on this thread lol
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@kjayhawks It’s super not great that’s for sure. A reset of sorts.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
See what @FarmerJayhawk isnt telling you. You need the house and the senate to pass a stimulus package. Yet it’s easier to blame Trump.
Dude I literally just blamed Congress for the lack of stimulus. Plenty to go around.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
I saw this the other day, and holy moly is this study absolute garbage. Without getting too into the grimy details, essentially the study had no real randomization so it violates every single assumption we make in running RCT’s. It’s also seriously underpowered (n=36). The outcome is viral load, not whether the patients actually got better, so we don’t really know a whole lot beyond that. In about half the days of the study, control patients weren’t even tested for virus. That’s really bad. At best the study is useless, at worst leads us down a rabbit hole of pursuing treatments that may be really harmful to non-COVID patients (e.g. folks with Lupus who are treated this way).
And so what would the great @FarmerJayhawk do? Lol Where Is your evidence that study is a Joke? I know how you like to throw around your opinion without Any evidence. Oh I forgot when the great @FarmerJayhawk says it’s crap it’s crap. Lmao
Do a clinical RCT like we do in any science already. Need bare minimum 100 subjects, all tested positive for COVID. Try the treatment, maintain treatment assignment and compliance. Then track outcomes over the course of treatment. You know, basic science.
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So far we’ve had promises of:
A million test kits by monday (two weeks ago) Perfect tests for everyone who wants one (LOL) Google Website (LOL) Drive thru testing at walmart (LOL) Promising Malaria drugs (LOL)
Good grief, people. Just tell me what you want to hear. /conman
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@DanR I am just so very proud that we are doing so much better than other countries and have it completely under control.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Germany is now restricting public gatherings to two people (except for families).
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@mayjay sarcasm?
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@mayjay would 2 people be called a gathering?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@mayjay sarcasm?
I was just seeing if an intelligent person could say “completely under control” with a straight face. I discovered it is indeed impossible. There are two possible explanations for POTUS having done so. One explanation is that he actually cracked up and they edited the videotape. But careful examination of the video shows no sign of editing.
And so, the other explanation seems to be the only one left…
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
See what @FarmerJayhawk isnt telling you. You need the house and the senate to pass a stimulus package. Yet it’s easier to blame Trump.
Dude I literally just blamed Congress for the lack of stimulus. Plenty to go around.
What is Pelosi doiiing jfc.
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@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
See what @FarmerJayhawk isnt telling you. You need the house and the senate to pass a stimulus package. Yet it’s easier to blame Trump.
Dude I literally just blamed Congress for the lack of stimulus. Plenty to go around.
What is Pelosi doiiing jfc.
I’m livid. The Senate bill isn’t perfect. I wanted at bare minimum $2 trillion and open ended commitments but there’s not time to mess around. Instead we have to wait 2+ days for a deal in the House to come together and then the chambers to agree on something.
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@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Glad they agree with my assessment of the study from France. Wasn’t worth much.
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@FarmerJayhawk Gotta have some stipulation for businesses keeping employees paid, right? Otherwise what is the bill doing? This is such a mess.
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@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk Gotta have some stipulation for businesses keeping employees paid, right? Otherwise what is the bill doing? This is such a mess.
From what I gather, a bipartisan group (Rubio, Collins, Cardin, Shaheen) did the small business portion and their loans were only eligible for forgiveness if they maintained payroll. I can’t find the text of the amendment to confirm myself but I’ll look again tomorrow.
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@FarmerJayhawk What I saw said “maintain payroll as possible” leaving lots of ambiguity on what that would mean.
