Liberace Game Thread
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Hawk8086 said:
@tundrahok I guess what bothers me is that if you are dribbling out the clock casually with a few seconds left…why try to steal it? It happens all the time. Let’s agree to either play the game to the end or let the last few seconds tick off.
Well, if you play to the end when you have the lead then the opponent gets all indignant like Iowa State…
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jayballer73 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
David took a swing at a player
I guarantee KSU swung first
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@BShark That’s a pretty incredible shot. Wow. That guy should be disqualified for the year.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out
I don’t think you’ll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.
For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok’s backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover – - block the shoot and walk away - -you don’t stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that’s taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG
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@bskeet That is Love. He was being recruited over anyway and was probably going to transfer. This will probably do it for him.
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@bskeet That’s definitely the player that attacked Silvio first. I’m not fully sure who it is as I don’t pay a ton of attention to KSU and this is the first KSU game I’ve really watched all year.
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I watched it about 20 more times. Love should be gone. Nothing was as bad as it first looked, and Fran freaking out made it seem much worse.
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rockchalkwyo said:
jayballer73 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
David took a swing at a player
I guarantee KSU swung first
1ST - -2ND - -3 - - 4TH - -5TH - -IT WILL BE A SUSPENION
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DanR said:
I watched it about 20 more times. Love should be gone. Nothing was as bad as it first looked, and Fran freaking out made it seem much worse.
Fran didn’t help, but it was still bad enough
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@jayballer73 I fear David may get multiple games…I couldn’t quite make out if he was swinging or not…or kicking.
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jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out
I don’t think you’ll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.
For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok’s backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover – - block the shoot and walk away - -you don’t stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that’s taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG
relax and watch the replay a few times
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The player from KSU that pushed Silvio will probably be suspended. Love (white pants) may be gone from the team. I fear the same for Silvio. I fear Dave may get more than one game. I couldn’t see what Marcus was doing. There will be severe penalties. The league will see to it if the schools don’t.
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DanR said:
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out
I don’t think you’ll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.
For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok’s backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover – - block the shoot and walk away - -you don’t stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that’s taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG
relax and watch the replay a few times
This is not good BUT as far as Silvio he hardly touch’s the floor anyways. - -I’s Dave like you say , guarnteee a game anyways. - Like they said question is will it be Saturday - -or a league game
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A lot of wrong actions to go around. Silvio should not have walked over the guy…clearly. But th1e KSU guys should not have shoved him and then the KSU players came off the bench…followed of course by our guys. Worst offender was Love ….he came flying at Silvio and looked like he threw the first punch. Of course, the 2nd punch is viewed as equally bad.
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I can’t see Marcus throwing a punch, or anything else other than getting between the active fighters
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I think Silvio gets a handful, Dave maybe a couple, and we all go on. No reason to do anything super drastic.
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rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that’s ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.
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Gary Bedore @GaryBedore Self said “there will be consequences” that he’ll announce Wednesday probably. He said he will study the tape more but it’s “obvious to me we played a role in what transpired and there will be penalties for that.”
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DanR said:
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I cant imagine Silvio or Dave playing Saturday. Welcome to 4 out
I don’t think you’ll see Silvio for a Lonnnnnnnnnnnnng time. - -I bet you looking at a 2-3 game suspension from Conference - - McCormack will probably be suspended for a game. - -The DeSousa just got himself in so deep with Self - -he might not see the floor for some time to come.
For people wanted to see the 4- we got our wish. - question becomes who is Dok’s backup now? I mean where was DeSousa head? - -how far up his ass did he have it? - - I mean you recover – - block the shoot and walk away - -you don’t stand over the top of a kid and taunt him - -that’s taunting - -and then pick up a dam Chair? - -OMG
relax and watch the replay a few times
oh I seen it just fine - - -they showed it over , and over , and over , and over. - -Tell me why Silvio felt the need to stand over the top of the kid and taunt? - -Block the dam shot and walk - -this is where it all started - - Tell me why the hell Silvio felt the need to grab a fricking chair? - - No place for that in the game - -hell ya K-State better be having players suspended too - -just a really ugly situation
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Silvio is in big trouble. Dude picked up a chair. Not good.
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rockchalkwyo said:
jayballer73 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
David took a swing at a player
I guarantee KSU swung first
Doesn’t matter, Silvio and Dave each threw punches, they will be suspended for that. The KSU players will get their suspensions as well, but KU is going to be without a back up for Doke on Saturday now.
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Kubie said:
I can’t see Marcus throwing a punch, or anything else other than getting between the active fighters
I think Marcus should be fine
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Self got an iron grip on Silvio’s jersey. It looked like Silvio was slapping his hand to try to make Self let go?
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Sucks. I wish we had a backup for Doke against Tennessee. Rick Barnes is chuckling.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
I think Silvio gets a handful, Dave maybe a couple, and we all go on. No reason to do anything super drastic.
Silvio - - 4-5 ? - - I’'m thinking Dave just the one – maybe not - - could be 2
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
Silvio needed to walk away after the block, that’s ultimately what started everything was Silvio not walking away after the block.
No he went and stood over the kid staring down at him. - -I’m like you block the dam shot which he did - - GAME OVER and walk away
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Enaruna better learn how to play some 5 real quick because he’s going to be Doke’s back up on Saturday.
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I don’t see Dave doing anything but trying to pull guys apart. I count only one Jayhawk, Silvio throwing a punch. I count 4 wildcats and 2 could get charged for assaulting a police officer for pushing repeatedly.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
jayballer73 said:
rockchalkwyo said:
I’m glad Silvio stared him down. They stole the ball while we’re having the clock run out and Silvio had a bad a$$ block. KSU started it by rushing SDS. What I do not like, and I mean DO NOT LIKE is the chair The rest is a blur for me. It seems like David and Garrett tried to separate players.
David took a swing at a player
I guarantee KSU swung first
Doesn’t matter, Silvio and Dave each threw punches, they will be suspended for that. The KSU players will get their suspensions as well, but KU is going to be without a back up for Doke on Saturday now.
ya I think Silvio is gone for some time
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Yay 5 out
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@kjayhawks Dave threw a punch in there.
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kjayhawks said:
I don’t see Dave doing anything but trying to pull guys apart. I count only one Jayhawk, Silvio throwing a punch. I count 4 wildcats and 2 could get charged for assaulting a police officer for pushing repeatedly.
you need to look AGAIN McCormack threw a punch
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If the NCAA mob really cared about these kids. It would be some kind of anger management course. Forcing these kids to be together, but no they will want to make an example. I’ll leave at that. You know what I’m saying.
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Did Weber get scratched on the chin?
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@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.
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Did anyone see Doke in that mess? I saw Devon run up but not get involved.
It does not matter who threw first, you punch you lose
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Kstate was being rude when Ku was trying to show some respect. Yet no excuse Silvio. None.
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kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.
A KSU player did throw the first punch, but Dave threw one in the middle of all that as well.
On the KU side, Silvio is going to get at least 5 games, Dave is probably going to get 1 game. Garrett looked like he should be in the clear discipline wise from the B12, we’ll see if Self does anything.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I would not be surprised if they are all running laps or worse at this moment!
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From what I’ve seen Dave didn’t throw any punches. I thought he tried to stomp the K-State guy who rushed in, but I don’t think so. Silvio threw 2 or 3 punches from what I could tell. Marcus ran over to the K-State guy when he was one the ground and was shouting at him, but… Just a real bad look. I was cool with everything Silvio did up until he was standing over that guy. His stuff was a great response, but man, you’ve got to be smarter than that. I would think he’ll receive a pretty punitive response from Self.
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Self was saying all but the 5 on floor were ejected and could see suspensions. Which is odd because the clock said zero and everyone thought it was over.
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I’m going to a different level. Add some spice. Kstate is so classless. I’m Mean really.
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video I recorded does not show dave throwing a punch. He push a cheerleader’s or Garretts arm and pulled his arm back, but didn’t punch anything. IMO. I am not a lawyer
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I have no trouble with any actions of any KU player besides Silvio grabbing a chair. KSU pulled some classless shit and Silvio wasn’t having it. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
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@DanR ya I see Dave pushing guys away but nothing that looks like a punch to me.
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lets call it a little photographer’s stool, not a chair, that Silvio dropped after making sure no one tripped on it.
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Kubie said:
I can’t see Marcus throwing a punch, or anything else other than getting between the active fighters
He came up swinging from a pile at one point. Hopefully the cameras missed it.
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wissox said:
Did Weber get scratched on the chin?
He said in his post game presser that he breaks our from stress during the season and that is what that was.
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Seth and Co. were putting their two cents in at halftime of the ESPN game. Big picture of Silvio holding the stool. They were fanning the flames for him to be gone for the season. Also were saying that David was stomping, or trying to stomp on someone…which would be Love.
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kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 still don’t see it and it looks like a KSU bench warmer threw hands first.
they just showed it again at the half of the Duke game , actually McCormack stepping on people when they are down.
I was wondering about this - - they were saying it needed to be handled swiftly and sternly. - talking about a season ending suspension to Silvio. - -I could see that, could they said actually him grabbing a chair and actually thinking about using it is a criminal offense. - I just not sure what will happen with David
