State of the Roster



  • Had some time today so I made a sheet of the roster using both the participation report and official roster from KU. Full sheet here. Disclaimer: the scholarship vs. walk-on thing is an informed guess on my part. Let me know if I’ve made mistakes.

    Found some interesting things. As of right now, we have 76 on scholarship (I think). 10 true freshman, 6 RS freshman, 5(!) sophomores, 8 RS sophomores, 10 juniors, 15(!) RS juniors, 14(!) seniors, and 8 RS seniors.

    Of the 76 on scholarship, only 8 can still redshirt taking into account games already played in 2019: Valerian Agbaw, Torry Locklin, Steven Parker, Dom Williams, Marcus Harris, Earl Bostick, Atoine Frazier, and DaJon Terry.

    Assuming we sign the full 25, plus add greyshirts, Jordan Medley, Jereme Robinson, and APH, we’ll be at 82. That’s the absolute ceiling and assumes 0 attrition (not going to happen. Like at all).



  • Miles needs two more years (after next year) to get us to the full scholarship limit of 85. That’s part of the long process ahead of putting together program depth after so many rough years.

    But the commit list for next year looks pretty good. https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Season/2020-Football/Commits/

    If Miles holds that group together, every single kid on that list is an incoming freshman. That would be a huge get. All of them are likely four year players. And while it’s doubtful that any of those kids becomes an All-American, that class has the look of a group that could produce 15 guys that are productive players by the time their careers in Lawrence are done. If you can put one or two stars on each side of the ball around them, well, then you have something really special.

    Next year’s class is the foundation to build on, with the goal being that’s the first class that gets to go bowling at the end of the season (unless we get a late push this season).



  • @justanotherfan what about dru prox? Red shirt or Med red shirt?



  • Crimsonorblue22 said:

    @justanotherfan what about dru prox? Red shirt or Med red shirt?

    It looks like he has already used a RS year, so he would have to get a waiver. Otherwise, he’s a senior next year.



  • I didn’t consider medicals. Just didn’t have enough to go on. Prox would need one since he’s already used his standard RS year.



  • Prox could apply for a medical red shirt and my guess would be he could get one at this point. I was told he hasn’t been able to practice at all. @FarmerJayhawk I think that’s a touch high on the scholarship number but Ik Beaty gave several walk ons scholarships. We should starting gaining a few guys every year starting with this recruiting class. As @justanotherfan said it will take at a minimum two more classes on top this one to get back to the 85. I hope the rule Jeff Long and several others are lobbing for happens. He wants a rule to where you can sign as many as 35 in a single class as long as you don’t go over 50 in a 2 year period. I think that rule would not only help us but make it to where most schools can stay at 85. To me that makes for better football.



  • kjayhawks said:

    Prox could apply for a medical red shirt and my guess would be he could get one at this point. I was told he hasn’t been able to practice at all. @FarmerJayhawk I think that’s a touch high on the scholarship number but Ik Beaty gave several walk ons scholarships. We should starting gaining a few guys every year starting with this recruiting class. As @justanotherfan said it will take at a minimum two more classes on top this one to get back to the 85. I hope the rule Jeff Long and several others are lobbing for happens. He wants a rule to where you can sign as many as 35 in a single class as long as you don’t go over 50 in a 2 year period. I think that rule would not only help us but make it to where most schools can stay at 85. To me that makes for better football.

    Also makes for safer football. Every team needs depth for practice and games. It’s just a must. One of the things that made KU so overmatched earlier this decade was the fact that many of the players that they had on scholarship were actually walkons from lower level programs (D2, NAIA). Being overmatched, or lacking in depth, can lead to injuries. I think a rule that would allow schools to sign enough to get back to 85 would be a big help.



  • Post-KSU update. Didn’t burn anyone’s redshirt. Of note, Earl Bostick and Thomas MacVittie got their first game action. Bostick and Marcus Harris (freshman DE) can therefore play the rest of the year and take still redshirt. Don’t see any downside if they can help us.



  • Post-Okie Lite. Agbaw, Locklin, Parker, Dom Williams, Harris, Bostick, Frazier, Borcila, and Terry are the scholarship players who can RS. Agbaw and Frazier haven’t seen any snaps and I don’t expect that to change. Bostick has seen action the last 2 games so I expect him to play the rest of the year. Terry can also play the last 2. Borcila has played 4 so he’s done. Locklin and Parker have played in 3.



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    Best I can tell, here’s the scholarship breakdown, current as of today. Key takeaways: yuuuuge junior class, tiny sophomore class. Those will keep us around 75 until 2022 (thanks, Dave!). Not a lot in the trenches either. Buckle up my dudes, it could be another 3-9 2020 season.


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