February 28: News Headlines Digest
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@drgnslayr Well, maybe I’ll quantify that as saying a HUGE portion of the fans I encounter. It is true that a large portion of Shocker fans at the games are 50+ in age. Isn’t that the case with KU games though? Kids don’t have money for season tickets. Heck, I’m no “kid”, but I don’t have that kind of money laying around. You are also correct that their student section is not as large as KU’s. In fact, the local news just did a piece last night about a handful of WSU fans that were camping out in the cold weather for good seats, and there were literally like 3 or 4 tents worth of students.
As for football, that rumor has been going around for awhile. 15 years ago or so I was attending WSU and did a paper (or speech for my public speaking class) about the likelihood of WSU bringing back football. I spoke to a number of administrators, and at the time the prognosis was bleak. One of the main reasons was Title IX, which states that equal funds must be allocated for women’s sports as men’s sports. That includes scholarships, and I was told they would have to create about a half dozen women’s sports just to compensate for the scholarships necessary for the creation of a football team. I really don’t know that they are any closer than they were 15 years ago, but I could be wrong.
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You are the guy to ask… how did they lose their football?
I recall the tragic plane crash, but football was around after that.
KU games have lots of older folks, too… but a lot more students. I angered some people at KUSports a while back for insisting we give the first 5 rows around the court to students. It helps the atmosphere in a huge way! I said that someday we are going to lose our status as having the best basketball game atmosphere because of all the old people sitting court side.
Come on… watch a KU game carefully. Cameras can’t ignore the first few rows around the court. When something happens where the fans are going nuts, it contrasts completely with some of the camera footage that shows old people sitting down and not even clapping. Half of them don’t even seem to be paying attention! It is friggin’ embarrassing! Just because these people obviously are all millionaires doesn’t mean they can just sit there without participating!
I’ve heard several other schools have addressed this by putting students near the court. I know the revenue is an issue… but seriously… doesn’t Jayhawk basketball generate enough money?
Or if the uber rich want to keep those tickets they have to start participating with plenty of energy! We can have spotters in the crowds watching… and when these fans are caught sleeping through games, it goes on tape and they then have to defend ownership of their season tickets. Make them pay gigantic fines for being boring fans! They can afford it… and the fine payments will offset the ticket revenue losses from those who lose their season tickets to students in “ticket court!”
Lets face the facts… the crowd nearest the court is also representing our school. Proper behavior is required!
I loveeeee this idea!
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@icthawkfan316 just saw the news, 5 tents in Marshallville!!!
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@oldhwkfan why do you think Marshall didn’t take the UCLA job?
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@drgnslayr ask Lew Perkins.
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@drgnslayr Well it was before my time, but my understanding was that it just wasn’t financially tenable to keep football around. Now trying to build one back from the ground up has to seem like an impossible task.
You got me curious as to if they had in fact been any progress, so I’ve been looking at articles about them possibly reviving the program. There was apparently an effort to get a club team started by a group of students that would eventually hand over the team to the university, at which point it would be an NCAA team. In response to this movement, Wade Robinson (Vice President for Campus Life and University Relations) was quoted as saying "My suggestion is that everyone who is interested in playing football while enrolled at Wichita State should contact the Kansas Cougars or Wichita Wild to still continue their education and pursue playing football,” That tells me all I need to know about how serious the administration is about bringing football back.
(The Wichita Wild is a professional indoor team, and the Kansas Cougars are a club team that I have never heard of).
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Where is Lew Perkins? Is he still retired? I used to visit with him at games.
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@drgnslayr many WSU fans say Perkins killed their fb program. I don’t know that much about it.
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many WSU fans say Perkins killed their fb program
@Crimsonorblue22 I think they give Lew a bit too much credit…
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Yeech! That link didn’t exactly make Lew sound good. He presented himself well when I spoke with him. It seems that he left a trail of darkness behind him wherever he went.
Kind of hard to imagine how he got that Maryland gig after WSU.
I never understood how WSU landed Lew. Lew always seemed like a east coast mobster.
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@bskeet probably, I don’t really know much about that. Had a high school fb coach from, think heights, told me that too.
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What I don’t like about Marshall is that now, when they are good, he mouths off about playing us. He probably said it when he first got there, but not as loud. And trying to act like it is in our best interest to play them is just so obviously wrong. Also, don’t forget that after they beat us in 81 with all that talent, they went on probation. Pretty serious recruiting violations as I recall.
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I’m so tired of hearing about WSU- mostly Marshall! But, they are on espn tomorrow and about 60-70 media people there. Bob Knight is also there and expected to interview Marshall. I guess you all can watch!
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@drgnslayr-Lew reminds me of Abe Vigoda-Barney Miller (Fish) & Godfather (Tessio).
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@globaljaybird
A+
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@approxinfinity Am going out the door. Maybe you could get this on a new thread as I don’t have time right now Thanks. Chicago Curie HS forfeits wins after using 7 ineligible players-
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/28/4856366/high-school-of-ku-basketball-signee.html
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@globaljaybird “And starting at center, out of Portland, Oregon, a 6’10” sophomore, Landen Lucas … "
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@HighEliteMajor-Could be…Ben & Jamari set out a year.
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@drgnslayr Lets hope we gear up for a run of domination and make everyone cower when they see they have to play us in the tourney!
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My hopes and prayers are there… we know they can do it!
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@drgnslayr absolutely right! This team can do anything they focus on and pput thier minds to. We all saw it when we played UT the second time around. I know it’s hard to get up like that every night but if they can get blazing hot and play at a high enery level consistenly for once, we will cut down those nets!(and then mail them to Marcus Smart) I kid!
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@HawkInMizery perfect!!!
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I would be willing to send a 1/32" string from the net to OSU. They should have something to display in their trophy cabinet!
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@drgnslayr Do they even have a trophy cabinet built down there?
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@HawkInMizery Not so much a cabinet. A vault. Where T. Boone Pickens keeps his concession stand money.
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@nuleafjhawk Well I guess they have that to hang their hat on. I’m glad us Hawk fans have other things to hang ours on. I have a lot of hats, and I may start running out of them as I have to keep hanging them on all these things we have! I almost feel bad for OSU’s fan base…almost.
