Coach Self shuts out Shaka...again.



  • @wissox Shaka is our sworn enemy. Texas is our sworn enemy. They must be defeated. It seems like you have some doubts about the mission, Soldier.



  • @dylans

    I was very careful to use the pronoun we because I too am a fragile Jayhawk fan. I whine about east coast bias, officiating favoring favored teams, Duke is in my head too I admit.

    But I do think holding a grudge against Shaka because he stated he wanted to beat Kansas is not the way I’d like to present myself as a Jayhawk fan.

    Now, if you think I don’t think you’re a real Jayhawk fan, nothing could be further from the truth. I’ll private message you the names of the fakers!



  • @dylans Wissox is more objective than most of us. He gigs us for our fanatical natures. He still bleeds crimson and blue at the end of the day. I just wanted to compliment you on a really good post. As for the broken nose, I just wanted to mention that I had a good friend in college who went to a game at Silo Tech, and knocked a Grape Ape fan out in the parking lot after the game. So, I’m sure the guy that got knocked out thinks KU fans are brutes as well.



  • @KUSTEVE I want you to channel some of that knocking people out for Duke and Kentucky fans!



  • @wissox I don’t have a problem with what Smart said, I was just pointing out what some of the other schools fans in our state were saying. I don’t really care what Smart does especially if we beat him.



  • @wissox I don’t hold the fact that he said he wanted to beat us against him…I thought the way he said it was cheap and unprofessional…and as HEM pointed out…showed a little insecurity. It obviously didn’t bother everyone…but I didn’t like it. Makes me extra glad that we are 5-0 against him since.



  • @dylans “ISU fans think every call goes KUs way even if they aren’t playing KU”

    PHOF!

    Literally true for Squeaky, too–remember when he complained about calls in a KU game when we played someone else in the last conf game, and they tied us that one year he accomplished something in the B12?



  • Oops–we lost the final game that year, 2013. This memory is from what Weber said before that:

    "The Wichita Eagle’s account of Monday’s KSU pep rally reports that “coach Bruce Weber joked that he had hoped to celebrate a Big 12 championship a week earlier on Senior Day, but poor officiating — referring to KU’s overtime victory at Iowa State — got in the way.”

    Reached by the Journal-World for a reaction to that news item, Self said: “No comment.” "



  • When Shaka beat us he was known as a young, high-energy coach that demanded high-energy out of his team.

    Where is that Shaka Smart? Bamba is a beast… without him, we would have smoked Texas by 30. Their guard defense is possibly the worst perimeter defense in the Big 12. Pathetic!

    Obviously, I want #14 this year… but I also want and expect higher levels of play from some of the teams in our league, starting with Texas.

    Blessings to our friends from the south, OU! I hope they win us all a National Championship in football! And I hope their Trae and company make a serious run, but come up just short of a conference title. They might do some serious damage in March.

    Huggy Bear always has my respect. Just wish he would clean up his language from the bench. We don’t need that language representing the Big 12. Otherwise… he is top notch and completely loved and respected by his players. One of the most-popular coaches from the players in all of college basketball.



  • @wissox I really didn’t mean to direct that at you. Your post was just the catalyst not the source of my frustration. I appreciate your fandom and sometimes I/we absolutely do need called out. The vast majority of KU fans that I’ve met have been stand up individuals, but like any fanbase there are exceptions.



  • @HighEliteMajor was he out coached ? i’d don’t remember the details of the scheming that day. i remember the team once again shot an insanely low % from 3 and Kief had 8 huge turnovers. The morris twins also ran their mouths before the game like they did the UNI game the year before. but that’s just what they did.



  • don’t believe shaka ever won the AAU. good luck in this conference.



  • Blown said:

    don’t believe shaka ever won the AAU. good luck in this conference.

    He doesn’t have a single conference title period.



  • @wissox

    Smarts comments reeked of arrogance, disrespect and insecurity and the shot was directed specifically to Coach Self and KU.

    We have had big name coaches before that actually accomplished something on a consistent basis come to the conference and not boast like Smart did. So far he has shown that, as they say in Texas, he is all hat and no cattle.

    Think about it, the whole myth of Smart is made out of smoke and mirrors. He did not win a single conference title in the Colonial conference…we are not talking about the West Coast or Conference USA or even the Missouri Valley, but the Colonial Conference that averages less than 2,500 attendance per game and he could not win one when VCU moved to the A-10 either. the entire mystique of Smart is based in one lucky NCAA run that included a win over KU, that is it.

    I will guess that if went to the Big 10 instead and made the same comment about Wisconsin, you would probably be all up in arms…or maybe not. 😃



  • @JayHawkFanToo why would I be up in arms?

    Did the lovie smith comment I alluded to reek of arrogance?

    You can call it what you want but calling a run to the final four lucky just diminishes their amazing accomplishment that year. They had to win five games if I remember correctly because they were a play in team. Luck had nothing to do with it.

    When we beat OU in 88 Billy Tubbs said 'we know we’re the better team. That’s arrogance. It’s not arrogance to proclaim to your new team and fans you’re there to beat KU.



  • @JayHawkFanToo “The entire mystique of Smart is based in one lucky NCAA run that included a win over KU, that is it.”

    And yet our fanbase continues to be obsessed by his comments in a single news conference nearly 3 years ago. His “lucky run” was a career-marking accomplishment, as demonstrated by KU fans’ constant whining about our fewer-than-we-should-have Final 4s. That he thought his style would do well in the Big12? Oooh, he must be a bad bad man to think that!

    Yeah, I am seconding @wissox with this: our obsession with beating Shaka due to his comments when hired reeks of pettiness solely attributable to not being able to let go of the loss in 2011.



  • @wissox

    The better coaches don’t brag, they just deliver. The wannabes brag and don’t deliver. We know where Smart stands and we just agree to disagree.



  • Shaka was supposed to be a young coach who brought in frenetic energy that his players would pick up from him.

    I just don’t see that these days. I see a mediocre coach who has one of the premiere athletic departments in the country and at the largest school in a huge state oozing with talent… and he can barely create a marginal Top 20 to Top 30 team.

    Put Self down there in Austin and he will have a Top 10 team in a year. No wait… DON’T put Self down there! lol



  • @mayjay

    Let’s see, with the players and system he inherited he finished 7th, with his own system and players he finished dead last…yep, his style translated really well.



  • @JayHawkFanToo Unlike everyone else who ever exuded confidence and didn’t come through? The issue isn’t whether he has succeeded. Has he said or done anything since that press conference resembling disrespect, or will we continue to condemn and hate him for a 6 second quote?



  • @mayjay

    Sports and life are full of 6 second quotes that people are famous for!

    I am not a crook

    Playoffs? You’re talking playoffs?

    Et tu Brutus?

    I did not have sex with that woman.

    PHOF

    Ask not what your @approxinfinity can do for you, ask you can do for your approxinfinity.

    I have a dream of the day when a person is judged not by the color of their skin but by their ability to score the basketball.

    Read my lips, no more threes.

    It is finished.



  • @wissox “I’m supposed to be the franchise player and we in here talking about practice! I mean listen, we talking about practice? Not a game! Not a game! Not a game! We talking about practice! Not a game, not a game, not the game I go out there and die for, we’re talking about practice?!? Not a game! We talking about practice!”

    Ok a little longer than 6 seconds.

    How about…

    “Down goes Frazier!”

    @mayjay Yeah, probably. Some/most players/fans need false motivation in sports to up the ante’. Fake hate without the real hatred is quiet common. Just don’t cross over into antler territory and make it real.



  • @mayjay To clarify sports are just entertainment to me. The actions and games are real, but just that games. They have no bearing on my day to day life. In entertainment I enjoy having villains and good guys with clear defined rolls (not like real life).

    I’m not going to go egg a guys house for being a KSU fan, because the games are just that games. It’s not war, it’s not politics, it’s not religion. It’s why I come here. Entertainment. Hardcore entertainment. That I take too seriously, but don’t confuse with real life.



  • @mayjay

    I am sure you have heard the expression…you never get a second chance to make a first impression? BINGO!!!



  • @dylans You really don’t want to egg a KSU fan’s house anyway, because they will just go lick it off instead of slithering all the way to a dumpster…