Recruiting Thread
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Of note: Creighton and Missouri both had their head coach at Zach Harvey’s last game, KU didn’t have anyone there. I think Creighton might be a very legit option here.
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11 in black was nice and 13 was okay, but the rest of the team were scrubs. It would be hard to evaluate top talent. It’s easy to see who is d1 talent on the court, they stick out. It’s figuring out how they stack up against each other while they are playing inferior talent. Kinda like KUs early schedule. Ranked 2 and blowing everyone out until the talent gap is less, then you get to see what you have.
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BShark said:
Of note: Creighton and Missouri both had their head coach at Zach Harvey’s last game, KU didn’t have anyone there. I think Creighton might be a very legit option here.
I’m really beginning to wonder how much interest KU has in Harvey at this point, I used to think he was a lock, but I’m beginning to think maybe more interest on his part and not KU’s part.
Maybe I’m not right but you know what - I wouldn’t be just big time devastated if Zach ended up somewhere else. I mean ya a Kansas kid - -good talent - -even more a hometown kid, same city I’m in BUT I rally think we are going to be fine at that position in 2019 and like I stated when I noticed I believe - -it looks like he has slipped some in the rankings To me it just isn’t the same type of scenario as if we wouldn’t of ended up not landing Devon - -we hadn’t landed him - -THEN I would of been crushed- -not the case with Zach.
Again I really believe KU might be backing off of Zach. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
Of note: Creighton and Missouri both had their head coach at Zach Harvey’s last game, KU didn’t have anyone there. I think Creighton might be a very legit option here.
On another note aside of Zach - - it’s kind of like there are some other people from other KU sites about to wet all over themselves cause Vanderbilt & Indiana had Coach or assistants watching Romeo the other night at his game and KU wasn’t represented by anyone. - -People crappin out little green nuggets thinking/saying - Oh you don’t think Romeo see’s that? - To which another poster said - -you don’t think Romeo knows who is interested in him and who isn’'t? - Doesn’t mean they have to watch him EVERY single game - -he knows KU is interested - -very interested - just so happens they said KU had their ballgame on that particular night. - -As the great Aaron Rodgers says - -I’ll repeat to people - - -R - -E - -L - - A - -X Romeo knows how interested we are, not being to ONE game isn’t going to change the out come of his recruitment. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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dylans said:
11 in black was nice and 13 was okay, but the rest of the team were scrubs. It would be hard to evaluate top talent. It’s easy to see who is d1 talent on the court, they stick out. It’s figuring out how they stack up against each other while they are playing inferior talent. Kinda like KUs early schedule. Ranked 2 and blowing everyone out until the talent gap is less, then you get to see what you have.
Yeah, 11 is Sam Williamson, KU legacy. The kid can shoot it for sure. The white team has much more D1 talent. Devion Harmon is a top 50 recruit this year who is committed to OU. Of course Jalen Wilson, a top 50 talent next year that KU is recruiting. They also have a 2018 post player who is committed to Georgetown.
Sam really showed out this summer against better competition. He went from his offers being the likes of Incarnate Word, Abilene Christian, UTSA etc… to being offered by KU, TAMU, LSU, TCU, OU, Marquette.
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@jayballer54 What Harvey has to weigh is likely starting immediately at somewhere like Creighton vs probably taking a development year in his first year at KU.
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@BShark Ballock kid is doing great. Hi bb iq, more athletic than I knew, shoots well.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark Ballock kid is doing great. Hi bb iq, more athletic than I knew, shoots well.
I was hoping he’d pick KU. KU definitely wanted him, but he felt he would play more at Creighton early on!
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Definitely wanted Ballock. Looks like he found a good situation though
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Turned on and watched some High School ball tonight. - -Turned out it was Memphis East playing Webster Groves out of Missouri - -the kid Carte that signed to St louis - was playing BUT
Memphis East is ranked # 1 now and both of the younger Lawson’s play on it Chandler and Johnathan . - - Plus James Wiseman also plays on Memphis East - -kid is a monster. - come to find out Penny Hardaway is the Coach of Memphis East - how cool is that?
By the way Memphis East won the game 80-45, but one of Webster Groves studs that’s a commit to a D-1 school - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 East Memphis PG Alex Lomax is signed to play at Wichita next year. James looked like a man playing against boys. Rebounded and dunked at will. 6’ 11" and shoots a pretty good three. He would look real good playing with Dave and De Silvio. Probably a very long shot for that possibility with the Lawsons in play also.
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@jayballer54 Travis Ford still at St. Louis?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yes he is.
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@Big-Clyde52 saw them play last year once, huge step down!
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@jayballer54 On second thought, if Dedric only stays one year, maybe Mr. Wiseman could come in and play with Dave and Silvio. Would we rather have Wiseman or Hurt? Either one would be fine with me.
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Wiseman is being heavily pursued by Kentucky. KU should get a visit too hopefully if he makes it that far.
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Big Clyde52 said:
@jayballer54 On second thought, if Dedric only stays one year, maybe Mr. Wiseman could come in and play with Dave and Silvio. Would we rather have Wiseman or Hurt? Either one would be fine with me.
Oh I think I would rather have Wiseman. - I just think he has a better physical presence, Don’t think it will matter with Wiseman though as from what I am hearing good ol Kentucky is pretty heavy on him. East Memphis has a pretty loaded team. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I’m going to summarize our chances with Wiseman in one word: SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.
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BShark said:
I’m going to summarize our chances with Wiseman in one word: SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.
But maaaaaybeee we get one of his free visits???
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
I’m going to summarize our chances with Wiseman in one word: SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.
But maaaaaybeee we get one of his free visits???
Mercy kid can ball. - -really fluid. the kid that I was trying to think of that didn’t play for Webster grove last night that is legit D-1 is named Remy I believe. He has a broke wrist? - -hand? - he plays with Carte on Webster Grove- -he might of made a little difference BUT Memphis East with Penny as Coach - -yea.- that team is loaded including the Lawson Brothers mercy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Wiseman has few challenges in HS. There’s a good chance he ends up the #1 kid in his class.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
I’m going to summarize our chances with Wiseman in one word: SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH.
But maaaaaybeee we get one of his free visits???
Probably. Fortunately I don’t think it really impacts anything. So not a situation where staying in with him would hurt with JRE or Chandler.
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Wiseman is my #1 in 2019, and I’m not sure it’s that close. If he has to go to college, he’s going to Kentucky. We’ll still have Silvio, Dave, and probably JRE. Really good chance at Lawson too. I bet we make Wiseman’s final 5, maybe even 3, but I’d be stunned if he came to KU.
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Latest 247 rankings:
Kansas bound recruits Quentin Grimes, Devon Dotson, Silvio De Sousa and David McCormack are once again considered to be among the top 50 player in the country in the newly updated 2018 Top 247 rankings. Evan Daniels, Josh Gershon, Brian Snow and Jerry Meyer are the four National Recruiting Analyst that put together the Top 247 rankings.
The highest ranked Kansas signee is G Quentin Grimes. Grimes did fall one spot at #13 overall and the #2 combo guard in the class. Devon Dotson climbed one spot to #19 and the #4 overall PG in the class. PF Silvio De Sousa fell a bit to #38 after previously being ranked #26 overall. De Sousa comes in as the #7 ranked PF in the class. C David McCormack also fell a bit in the rankings after previously being ranked #29 overall. McCormack is now ranked #47 overall and is the #6 ranked C in the class.
With the release of the updated Top 247 2018 rankings the Kansas Jayhawks once again jumped up to #1 in the 2018 team rankings. The Jayhawks currently have two five-star recruits and two four-star recruits in the class. Quentin Grimes and Devon Dotson make up the two five-star recruits with rankings of 13 and 19. Silvio De Sousa and David McCormack are the two four-star recruits in the class with rankings of 38 and 47.
Kansas is looking to add to its already top ranked class with either #3 ranked Zion Williamson or #5 ranked Romeo Langford. If the Jayhawks add either prospect to their class the Jayhawks will likely have the #1 ranked class in 2018 all locked up.
https://247sports.com/Bolt/Kansas-has-the-1-ranked-recruiting-class-in-the-country-112274647
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Still not sure why people are considering Grimes a combo guard. He’s a PG. Perhaps they just don’t want to make him a PG because of his size.
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@justanotherfan or because we already have Dotson and Moore. Don’t need three point guards necessarily though it is nice to have a guy who can handle the rock and direct in an emergency
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Grimes is more of a PG than Moore IMO.
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The recruiting analysts shouldn’t be considering where different guys sign to determine their position. Grimes plays on the ball for his HS team. He plays on the ball for his AAU team. Of course, because of his size, he can move off the ball, and he is a dynamic scorer off the ball. But he’s effectively a big PG, and that’s where his future (NBA) is.
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https://247sports.com/Player/Jeremy-Roach-46035780
New 2020 name.
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Looks like an East Coast destination.
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@justanotherfan Ok, so let’s say we start Dotson at point, then Grimes as a 2, and let’s say we’d have Garrett at the 3. Can you imagine how good our ball handling could be with 3 point guards on the floor? All 3 of those guys played point guard in high school. Then we’d have Cunliffe and Moore that have played point in the mix as well. We have the potential of having a potentially great ball handling team. The Lawson brothers are known for defense. Garrett is known for defense. Cunliffe is on the way to being very good defensively - next year’s team could be the best defensive team we’ve had in a long time. It will have more depth than I can remember. It will be a very young team, but they should be absolute studs defensively.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Looks like an East Coast destination.
Yeah, it doesn’t seem likely that he ends up at KU.
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Hadn’t been too much attention due to the holidays. Apparently Ashton Hagans committed to Georgia. WOW.
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@BShark Looks like a stud, but doesn’t seem like KU was ever in the game. Probably going to be hard to sign top ‘19 guards with Dotson and Moore on the roster. (I assume Grimes will be gone.) But a top wing should happen hopefully.
Romeo in ‘18 would be fantastic too. I just don’t know who is going to leave to open up that roster spot.
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@dylans Oh yeah I never considered that he would go to KU. The squid was hot and heavy on him though (at one point, the cb predictions were all UK and UK was going to a fair number of his games), so now he will have to look elsewhere. I would guess Tyrese Maxey as it will be tough to pull Antoine away from Duke.
My heart is really breaking for Calipari. NOT.
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Don’t understand that one. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up at Kentucky before it’s all said and done. I think he’s by far the best pg in the 19 class
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@BeddieKU23 I hope not, but I could see it too. Generally we don’t see many decommits. This year was a big exception of course due to the FBI crap.
Also Cole Anthony is pretty good. It’s a pretty big drop-off after Lamelo Ball and of course he shouldn’t even really be considered because no one wants the mess of Lavar at this point.
I’ll never count Calipari out for anyone but Anthony would be an extremely tough pull so if Hagans stays solid with UGA and he can’t pull Maxey then Calipari might develop some back aches.
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It just seems like a out of the blue decision. Georgia could have a new coach by the time he gets there. I’m surprised he announced this early
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KU made the final 5 for https://247sports.com/Player/Onyeka-Okongwu-88727
Probably gonna be a Bruin
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Well read where our boy Quentin went off for 44 points & 9 rebounds the other night, the team lost but he had 44.
When he was asked what or how KU was wanting to use him he stated just said they wanted to use him both a lot on the ball & off the ball… He said he feels like he can guard the 1 - -2 - -or 3.
When asked what excites him most about playing at KU? - -He stated just the chance to play for a Hall of Fame Coach Bill Self , wants to be able to pick his brain about work ethic - says KU has produced some really good guards and brought up Marion Chalmers name , can’t wait ti see him on the floor. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
KU made the final 5 for https://247sports.com/Player/Onyeka-Okongwu-88727
Probably gonna be a Bruin
I hadn’t or didn’t realize we were recruiting him, but made the final 5. - -Your right though the CB shows him at 100% UCLA - or if not with the other Schools listed looks like he wants to stay close to the coast back West. - - Arizona St , UCLA ,USC , Washington, & KU - -all Pac 12 other then us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I was messing around with numbers this morning, and came up with what I think is the most likely scenario for the next two seasons.
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HMMM , I don’t know looks pretty good just wonder though about Vick coming back for his SR yr. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 he’ll be back unless he has a first round grade. Which he doesn’t have yet. That could change. If he does, I think we land Langford.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@Jayballer54 he’ll be back unless he has a first round grade. Which he doesn’t have yet. That could change. If he does, I think we land Langford.
I agree 100% about if vick goes. I think possibly it was you that some time back brought forth that this is what Langford was waiting on – to see if Vick went pro or not, makes perfect sense. With Indiana or Vanderbilt no reason for him to wait, if he was going to sign with them why wouldn’t he just go ahead and commit?
I just think the way it’s going if he has a solid year and progress with any degree at all I just believe he will leave - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I did see Vick in the first round in one NBA mock … http://www.nbadraft.net/2018mock_draft
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@KUSTEVE the key to deep March runs is defense. Been a long time since Self has fielded a good defensive team. I’m looking forward to it.
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Grimes expects to OAD. I hope he plays to that level at KU. Time will tell. I’d sure like to see high level play for more than one year out of a guy before he feels the need to get paid. The NBA drafting mostly on potiental makes it detrimental to stay in college too long for freak athletes.
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@dylans Well that Grimes thing didn’t start my day off well. I looked at 2019 mocks, didn’t see him, but got to the ESPN mock and sure enough, they have him #8. Langford is there too, at #9.
https://247sports.com/Gallery/ESPN-releases-first-2019-NBA-Mock-Draft-108163016/GallerySlides/704606
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@HighEliteMajor lol Don’t shoot the messenger. Grimes said he doesn’t expect to be in college to play with Markese in a recent interview. So I’m just reading between the lines.
I’m just trying to adjust my expectations. I still remember being peeved that Pierce left after his Jr. year.
