Big 12 Tournament of tears
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The bright side to this is that it won’t affect seeding and we avoid the risk of injury until the Dance. But - and I know I’m a broken record on this - this game highlighted our very real weaknesses and vulnerabilities. We can beat anyone in the country, but we aren’t anything close to a dominant team - we simply aren’t going to blow anyone out. Yes, we can close, but skating close to the edge game in and game out is a recipe for disaster. Worth noting that other teams that are NC aspirants like Villanova, UNC and Oregon blew out their opponents today - and, in UNC’s case, a pretty solid Miami team. They took care of business; we did not. Sure, we were without JJ, but is that an excuse for giving up as many easy points as we did?
Again, I hope this is a wake-up call for these guys that short bench notwithstanding, we can’t afford to coast during games - we certainly can’t afford to give up 16-3 runs and get just 2 baskets in a 10 minute span against an average team.
I remain optimistic, because we can beat anyone, but I won’t be surprised if we lose early, either — unless, all of the sudden, out of nowhere, we find a renewed commitment to playing defense…
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He is skilled, he just gets in his own way so much at this point.
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I dont think there is any reason to panic, we didnt have our second best player and DG was off. Maybe because of an injury. I can understand why some of us arent happy, they played harder than we did for most of the game. I’ve said it a thousand times as does coach Self-rebounding is how you tell how hard you played, it 10% skill and 90% want to. I’ve also said the worst thing this team can do is get up early, we have blown leads of 10 points all season and for the second time it bit us in the butt. Hopefully its a lesson, YOU HAVE TO PLAY HARD EVERY MINUTE if you want to win in march period.
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@DCHawker nice summary-the only thing I would add is that yes we can beat anybody, but today shows that alot of teams can also beat us. just got to play smart for 40 next week and keep playing.
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Sunshine Crew? Um yea I’ll be here to listen to you explain about how KU Sucks.
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Lunardi now has us as the 3rd one seed. There is a definite possibility we could lose the one seed.
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I’ve predicted 7 or 8 losses. Certainly predicted today as a win. I don’t think that’s far off the mark with the statistical profile of this team, and that they have been a bit lucky at times + AFH factor.
@kjayhawks said:
I dont think there is any reason to panic, we didnt have our second best player and DG was off. Maybe because of an injury. I can understand why some of us arent happy, they played harder than we did for most of the game. I’ve said it a thousand times as does coach Self-rebounding is how you tell how hard you played, it 10% skill and 90% want to. I’ve also said the worst thing this team can do is get up early, we have blown leads of 10 points all season and for the second time it bit us in the butt. Hopefully its a lesson, YOU HAVE TO PLAY HARD EVERY MINUTE if you want to win in march period.
Really need DG healthy.
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I should be glad about this. I won’t have to worry about watching the damn TV all weekend and I might actually get some things accomplished. So - YAY - I’m happy.
Was that convincing?
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Run, Run, Hide, Hide. The sky is falling all my God we were fooled. KU sucked.
Give me a break. Do me a favor all you naysayers. When KU wins the National Championship this year. Not one word, or post. If you can’t enjoy the up and downs of a great season, then maybe you should look in the mirror.
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@DoubleDD Michael Jackson. Thanks. Add insult to injury.
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@BShark just as a reference, watched a Coach Marsha game(cup cake opponent) and with 10 min left Schlockers were up 15 and Coach called a timeout and chewed butt because the team was playing soft. gotta play smart and tough for 40 to win, especially with the target that we have on our back.
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If KU makes the FF (don’t even need them to win the NC) I’ll take a multiple month breather for you.
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Just realized JJ will never play a Big12 tourney game. He’ll have to work out any post season jitters in the Dance
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The first game should be against one of the worst teams KU will have played all year at least.
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Nay keep posting. I know everybody is bummed. I am too, but I’m excited too. This team has that it thing. I don’t know what you call it. I just feel it.
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Trust me I would tell you to temper your expectations if thought it was needed. Yet there is something about this KU team I can’t shake.
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@autohawk I just can’t get enough of that Marsha
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@DoubleDD I agree. This team WITH Josh on the floor is ultra tough.
This team WITH Josh on the floor can absolutely win 6 more games. 6 more.
This team Without Josh? Middle of the league. Ok maybe top 3 or 4 because BIFM!
But still, TCU just beat us because of Josh’s apparent inability to keep his head screwed on right off the court and SVI’s Hulkamaniac ego showing up at the last second and Hulk Smashing that player, allowing those three game winning free throws.
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Josh and Mason are the alphas on this team
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Coach said Vick getting his 2nd foul first half hurt us the most
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I won’t disagree with that. Foul issues forced more double post play.
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That’s not why. Forced us to play subs that don’t play much and didn’t give our starters any rest
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Go easy on Svi. Remember he is still younger than Josh. He cut his teeth in Europe ball. It’s a big change trying to play American ball. In fact I loved that fact he had the tenacity to go up and block that 3 point shot. That doesn’t happen very much. Sadly it didn’t work out for him, but you have to admit for a split second everybody was like Holy Cow Svi blocked it?
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Newman I think will be next year’s alpha assassin. Preston and Cunliffe both give me flake vibes.
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
That’s not why. Forced us to play subs that don’t play much and didn’t give our starters any rest
Subs that are post players because we only had 4 scholarship guards.
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SO, we lost this game. We now get to reflect on whats next.
WIll KU Still get a 1 seed after getting bounced early?
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Yes
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@Lulufulu said:
SO, we lost this game. We now get to reflect on whats next.
WIll KU Still get a 1 seed after getting bounced early?
Yes there is no doubt. Can’t find 4 stronger resumes.
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@BShark couldn’t take Svi out either
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If KU isn’t a one seed I expect a crazy long post from @jaybate-1.0
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@DoubleDD Yeah, you’re right. To be honest, I didnt see that SVI got a piece of the ball. I thought he missed.
Im not mad at SVI, at all. But still, had he not bowled that guy over, we may have won that game.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark couldn’t take Svi out either
Just all around tough situation with no Josh, but Josh needed a suspension. Hopefully this focuses the team.
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@BShark said:
If KU isn’t a one seed I expect a crazy long post from @jaybate-1.0
I expect one anyways
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Does this hurt Frank for POY?
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@HawkChamp I would not be real upset to lose the one seed. What really scares me is, no #1 has ever lost the first game. Some day it will happen. %'s bound to catch up eventually. I do not want that to be KU. We would never outlive that hanging around our neck. Every team in the Dance can get hot from 3. A flat game by their opponent and it will happen. Then every year at tourney time, that is all the talking heads would be talking about for eons to come. Even winning the first game, I would rather play the 7-10 than the 8-9. You have to win four to get to the final four no matter where you are seeded, and they all will be tough games.
With lots of rest and healing time, wishing our Hawks the very best.
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@BShark … and you’ll enjoy every minute of “I told you so.”
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Kinda feel bad for all our fans that paid for the whole weekend.
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I hope Baylor crushes KSU, already hearing nosie from then losers.
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@kjayhawks you pay for those tickets it’s a crap shoot! Ha ha
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@KUSTEVE I could not agree more. Anyone acting as if our team did not try their best to win should really be ashamed of themselves.
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It’ the AFC Championship Game all over again. Wow. Opponent pulls our player down on top of them and we lose. What in the world is going on with that.
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Not worried about this loss in the least. It helps KU if anything. I’ve never seen Self call a timeout when we’re a stoppage-of-play away from the TV TO just to get guys rest.
Now, rest up. Throw away the garbage alternate uniforms, don’t drive anywhere and focus.
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@kjayhawks agreed. Hope baylor wins big. But regarding the remainder of the tourney…I guess my rooting interest is texas? 21 loss team with some talent would be intriguing.
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Does this loss really matter as long as we’ll get the Midwest?
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TCU deserves to dance. They played a hell of a game to beat us.
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I don’t think there is anyone still wondering why Self is going after JUCO post players after today’s game.
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@kjayhawks Frank scored 29 points with 6 assists, 3 boards. Don’t think that hurts a POY resume!
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@approxinfinity TCU wins one game and they deserve to dance? What about all the other teams that deserve to dance? You beat #1 “overall” seed and you deserve to dance? KU plays like hell to overcome hell, and with one loss we may lose our #1 seed? Hell yes. This is what everyone wanted. They got it. I will be shocked if KU keeps #1 seed in Midwest. Lunardi “said” we clinched our seed with the 13th B12 Conf Championship. We’ll see how the committee handles this loss.
This is the problem with NCAA March Madness. You can’t reward a team for ONE big win, and then penalize an extremely consistent team for one bad loss. We all know KU will pay hell for this loss. Bill Self himself even said KU was not deserving of overall #1 seed. I knew this sheet would happen after the stupid #1 OVERALL albatross seed.
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@truehawk93 People talking we may keep our # 1 sed but do we stay in the Midwest - -a 1st round loss in the tourney hurts. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@nuleafjhawk I had the same thought, but I still have the Badgers, maybe they’ll get bounced early too!
Glad I was at the four letter word this afternoon and couldn’t participate in the chat. Watched it on DVR, was chagrined, but not overly worried about the result. I love to see us win, but I don’t think this loss hurts us a whole lot.
