Jan 8: The journey begins for Title 10 of 10... and the search for joy.
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@HighEliteMajor I agree doubly so. But I also think that Tarik is still capable of having a big game for us and should be higher in the rotation.
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@jaybate 1.0-"
“…They will not have practiced heavily before it. Legs will be very fresh. Players will be juiced, unless there are deep, abiding relationship, personality and transfer issues eating like a cancer at the team.”
JB, I’m beginning to wonder if these are issues effecting such a uniquely heralded & exclusively talented group. I do not recall a Self team that consistently played as lethargic as this one sometimes does, for such extended periods. Of course we’ve no answer to this question other than pure speculation on social media posts. And I’m also certain that Bill has a gumshoe (chiphead?) covering that angle, so how much & often these guys comment may have bearing on what they say. Anyway, that is just hearsay to all other than the coaching staff or someone close to the players, so there’s no true way to get the fix. As always, JMO.
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Coach Self absolutely will have them geeked up for every conference game he can possibly have them up for. Until I see it not happen, that 10th straight title belongs to KU, hung up on the rafters! That conference championship net cut up and pass out to all the players and the NCAA tournament teams that have to play us will say KU is just a name but there wont be any conviction to those words! They will know then that KU is a centennial force to be reckoned with on the court! Rock Chalk Jayhawk! Now Lets get some!
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KUSTEVE I like you. We can hang out. I personally think it’s our guys not moving forcing our pg’s to create themselves. To ease your mind - when I personally think something that means that is exactly what it is. That is my whole argument stating that PROBLEM is that Frank Mason is the one taking the shots. Good on him for having the balls to do it but if our other guys aren’t going after it then we won’t go far because they are simply better. If Frank gets into the role of “go to” guy out of defference by our other players we’re going to continue to lose games.
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@iowajayhawk2005 - Awesome to see you write up your opinions in here. I knew you had quality opinions to offer… and you did!
You call it straight out… and nail the issues.
How do we get this team to execute the plan?
It sounds like you’d keep up a tight ship with plenty of discipline. Will these guys eventually execute if we keep the threat of bench time if they don’t perform? That coaching strategy seems to work well with 4-yr players, especially when we don’t have to count on them producing right now. But what about a team full of star freshmen, many who see themselves as OAD? Will Self be able to break them down and build them back up?
I’m not implying we bow down to any of these star players. I’m just looking for whatever method will work to inspire them to scrap for 50/50 balls, rebounds… and scrap for victory! It just doesn’t look like Self’s typical method of discipline is moving these guys into action. Maybe they just need a good win or two to get back their mojo.
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Thanks drgnslayr. I hate to say it - but it looks like people don’t like me. I don’t know why. I may not be long on this site… civil hawk is preparing the pitchforks. How uncivil.
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I am the best poster on this site bar none. I have yet to see a single post that is even in the same realm of my intelligence. Everyone else’s posts are almost as boring as watching andrew wiggins stand at the free throw line extended while he watches other players run around.
quote from @iowajayhawk2005 re: his opinion of everyone
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Much like Bill Self, I myself have different techniques to try and make everyone else do better. Both of us are elite humans - we simply want you on our level. #donthate #hashitout
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@iowajayhawk2005 - Don’t let it phase you… just keep posting. You offer up some diversity that we need in here. I think we all (me definitely included) start getting flat in here… like you said “almost as boring as watching Andrew Wiggins…”
In the very least you help get people juiced up and that definitely keeps things spicy in here.
The only way you’ll piss me off is if you stop posting!
We should all be big boys and that means sometimes hearing criticism. It’s easy to just be a back slapper like everyone else. Eventually, it’s just a big circle of happy backs… We all need someone willing to push the topics. You challenge people (including myself)… and that’s the only way this forum keeps working!
I’ve got my big boy pants on… let’r fly!
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We just became best friends.
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@iowajayhawk2005 there goes the big boy pants!
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@drgnslayr @iowajayhawk2005 … get a room.
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@crimsonorblue22 - haha
@JayDocMD - only if you promise to check our prostate simultaneously.
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only if you promise to check our prostate simultaneously.
You do know that my prostate exams aren’t done with both hands on your shoulders, right?
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Yuck!
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HAHAHA this is brilliant! see - now we’re all being uncivil and it’s HILARIOUS. thank you. Back to KU bball:
The one player who has disappeared through all these playing time discussions is Frankamp. I highly doubt he sees more then 4 meaningful minutes the rest of the season but I’ll be damned if I don’t wish he had a 5th year available at the end of his senior year. Too bad.
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@iowajayhawk2005 he will need to get much stronger! Last time he was in, he missed an easy layup, but then had a great pass to wiggins for a dunk. Think he lost a lot of confidence! Sucks! Gotta perform when u have chances.
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see - now we’re all being uncivil and it’s HILARIOUS.
uncivil? No
immature/gross/hilarious? Yes
DISCLAIMER: no prostates were harmed in the production of these postings
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This is the first time we’ve all truly lightened up in here!
@iowajayhawk2005 - please do us all a favor. Travel to Lawrence and do your magic on this team! Back these boys off the ledge!
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I’ll be down for the Oklahoma State game. I’ll see what I can do.
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@iowajayhawk2005 I noticed during the drama in the Bahamas that our pgs were taking a slew of shots, and I went back, and saw during our loss to Michigan last year, they had taken the most shots of any position on the floor ( Mclemore included), so I have been openly wondering why ever since. This tells me that GMTA, and I have come to the conclusion almost all of it has to do with the ball not moving, like you surmised.
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@globaljaybird, I come at this team chemistry issue a few ways.
First, we probably can’t know until after the fact.
Second, all teams have at least some chemistry problems sometime or other during the season. The question is: do they surmount them. I suspect the '08 ring team had some issues, but it resolved them by the end.
Third, the only kind of internal conflict on a team that is killer is if it makes guys not try hard and play tough and up to their abilities.
What we have seen so far could just as easily be explained by young persons that have never gotten the shizz beaten out of them before becoming kind of overwhelmed by the combinations of the big come down from early season hype, the harsh experience of being stomped on a couple of times, and all of the learning and rules changes, plus Finals. Its a lot for even mature teams to deal with. This team is young.
But anything remains possible at this time.
Just have to wait and see.
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@iowajayhawk2005, trust me you do not know what hostile response is. You’re practically beloved already.
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I take it that MDs and theoretical physicists are not big on sarcasm…
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I read sarcasm font just fine thank you very much. On a related note, when was your last prostate exam @JayHawkFanToo?
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@iowajayhawk2005 You make more sense than anyone on here. People like that. I do, at least. I have been grappling with the same issue of having our worst 3 point shooters shooting the most 3 pointers. The fact you pointed it out tells me I’m not the only KU fan who has wondered the same question.
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In a recent phone conversation I had with my old coach he called KU “a bunch of timid kids.” He wasn’t saying it as an insult, just a description of the team.
Could that description nail the biggest issue with this team?
Good call on pointing out the wrong people hoisting up the most 3pt attempts!
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@HighEliteMajor I agree with you. Mason has shown time and time again that he is ready for the big moments. He drove to the bucket and scored with time running out against Villanova, he nailed a clutch 3 against San Diego State, and above all, he has no fear. That’s how you survive and advance in March.
Mason is not our best 3 point option, in fact he is probably the least desirable 3 point shooter. Yes, he made one against SDSU but I can assure you that it was not the shot Coach Self wanted taken.
The only problem I have with Mason is that he tends to hog the ball and take shots when he should be looking for a better option; a correctable flaw.
The best 3 point shooters in the team are Frankamp and Greene. They were part of 8 invited to the National 3 point championship and Frankamp won and Green placed 5th. Unfortunately, Frankamp shooting has not yet translated to the next level and Greene seems to have a standing reservation at the Doghouse Hotel.
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I read sarcasm font just fine thank you very much. On a related note, when was your last prostate exam @JayHawkFanToo?
Not that long ago that I still remember. However, if you are volunteering your services, I will pass; I will stick with my lady doctor, less creepy that way.
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That’s true @jaybate 1.0 I haven’t read anything over a paragraph that you’ve said in over a year and the only time I referenced you personally I mentioned the pending bukakke you’ll receive from the posters awaiting your return. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you know much more than I what a hostile response is - I’m simply emotional.
@KUSTEVE I’m just going to come out and say it - i’m ready to commit to a long term friendship with the basis of our friendship being centered around KU. We’ll cry together when we lose and drink natural ice together when we win - I hope you’re okay with that.
@drgnslayr if you asked me this morning to notarize on this message board what I thought of you I would have surely been kicked off. I am now here to admit, as a man, that I was entirely incorrect about you. I like you. And I like how you appreciate our differing opinions. I can learn something from you… what is it called… tact? Who knows - it’s a loaded question. NeWaYzZz you’ve got my vote for head moderator of this board. I am fiercely loyal so if you ever need me to do your dirty work don’t hesitate to ask.
@JayDocMD I appreciate that you’re willing to take off the lab coat once in a while and stoop to my level. On that note - with all these prostate exams your handing out I’d definitely leave your gloves on.
@JayHawkFanToo - I’m still of the feeling that AWIII is our best 3 pt shooter. Frankamp will get his chance and I hope Green never does and transfers - I take pride in how good looking our team is and the combination of the Green Ellis ugly is too much. One of them has to go. I choose Green.
Dick Vitale is the worst.
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@HighEliteMajor I think you could see that starting lineup. My sense, though, is that Wayne is outplaying other people in practice…he just hasn’t shown it in the games. Wayne has all the tools…I’m sure Self believes that he will put it together soon. In the meantime, Mason can get plenty of playing time off the bench if warranted. Must be the same thing with Black and Traylor outplaying Lucas in practice.
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@REHawk I agree with your comments on the posters on the other site…9 and 9? Come on!
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@REHawk Jeez, just think how bad it will be if we lose tonight?
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@iowajayhawk2005 hey best poster, it’s Greene! Ladies have much smaller fingers, your choice???
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@Hawk8086 I’m the optimist, losing tonight will crush my hopes! Headed to kstate game sat. and I’m really sick of my ksuck friends talking crap!
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Sorry for the late start. Live blog is up.
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@iowajayhawk2005 Let’s get to pouring some iced tea, my friend. We start out in conference with a nice road win. Wayne Selden has finally woke up. It was nice to not scream at the tv for once. Imagine this - I’m in the hospital after suffering a heart attack the night before. The SDSU game comes on, and I start yelling loudly , and the nurse comes flying into the room wanting to know why I am yelling. I said “maam, this is serious…this is KU bb”.
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@KUSTEVE hope you are doing ok!
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@iowajayhawk2005, I’m going to let you in on a little secret in a single compound sentence: I write long to avoid comments by you specifically.
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@jaybate 1.0 nice!
