Red Sox go big bucks
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Also am reading that the Mets biggest target this off season is Ben Zobrist on abt a 4-5 yr deal. He’s abt 35 now so that’s not very damn smart either IMO.
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@globaljaybird I want to keep zobrist.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I really want to keep Gordon also but at 32 on opening day, someone else will prob offer him an 11 figure deal that we just can’t match. Some spec that it could even be a 12 fig deal. In comparison to the major tv markets. Royals deal with FSMW is only 20 mil per year so unless either one of them is willing to take a lesser salary for the chance at another REALLY GOOD shot at a WS Championship, it’s unlikely.
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@globaljaybird said:
Also am reading that the Mets biggest target this off season is Ben Zobrist on abt a 4-5 yr deal. He’s abt 35 now so that’s not very damn smart either IMO.
Uh you are talking about the Met’s who historically have not made smart moves with money trying to match their cross town rivals.
Then again throwing money at players hasn’t paid off lately for the Yankees either.
I think Gordo stays, he’s somewhat local, growing up in Lincoln and playing college ball there too. Maybe he will be loyal to his roots and stick around, sign that contract that won’t break the bank for others to resign in the coming years as well.
A lot of these guys came up together through Omaha and have a bond, I’d like to see them all stick around another three or 4 years if possible.
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@globaljaybird how long is that contract w/fox sports?
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@Crimsonorblue22 not sure when its up
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@globaljaybird Lot of talk on team stream that to get Zo will take 4 yrs and $60 million plus. May be abidding war between Mets, Nats, Giants, Dodgers, Cards and Cubs. Hopefully he’ll give the Royals a discount since he and his wife said they love KC.
And maybe there is some hope for NY fans. Some Toronto clown said the Royals were just plain lucky. Many Mets fans stood up for the Royals and their “never quit” style of play. Saying beyond a doubt the Royals were the best team.
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Gordon, Cueto and Zobrist are in everybody’s top 10-15 list of free agents.
Here is one link on Cueto and Zobrist…
As much as the Royals and the players themselves, at least Gordon and Zobrist, would like to stay in KC, it is very likely that the current market will price them out of the range of what the Royals can realistically offer, I hope I am wrong.
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Honestly, I can’t be mad at a player for taking the highest offer. If I was in the same position, I would take a higher offer to change companies rather than stay where I am at. Of course, there are other factors, but if someone is offering you 20% more for the same work, it’s hard to say no, especially since with baseball, you’re on the road every other week anyway, and you can basically live wherever you want in the offseason. It’s not like baseball requires you to move to the town you play in.
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Greg Holland gone or will he sign for a smaller salary?
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@JayHawkFanToo good question
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@JayHawkFanToo Right now would you pay millions for a closer with a wing in a sling that won’t be able to help you if at all until 2017?
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@brooksmd Royals said they will not pursue the option on Holland.
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That is correct, they will not exercise the option which they feel is too high but they can sign him at a lower cost.
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A question to any of you about ex-Royal Nori Aoki, who just signed a one-year deal (plus 2017 option) with the Seattle Mariners…
The new GM here isn’t wasting any time rebuilding the outfield, which has been godawful both offensively and defensively in recent years. Aoki’s stats (even the esoteric ones) look like a big improvement.
All I’ve really seen of him was during the 2014 playoffs, where he was okay if occasionally scary with the glove.
Any takes on this ?? Is $4 million worth it for a 34-year-old ?
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I’d rather have Dyson.
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@wrwlumpy dat what speed do!
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Red Sox signed Young as well, two big signings this week. I agree with the comments here in that Cueto, Zo and Gordon are gone, Royals will not be able to match lucrative offers from other clubs. Good thing is that several key players will be around for sometime in Hoz, Moose, Escy, Cain, Salvy
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Of the 3, if I had a choice to keep just one, I would keep Zobrist; he was consistently key in the playoffs when it counted.
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@JayHawkFanToo me too
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@Crimsonorblue22 Here are specifics on Royals contracts that I could find. 2017 will be critical for the club with 4-5 keys guys being eligible in 2018. http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/mlb/kc/
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@globaljaybird thx! I don’t really understand all of that.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Cain, Hos & Moose all free agents in 2018-also the Chris Young that signed with the Red Sox is an outfielder, not the Royals pitcher Chris Young.
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@globaljaybird good, keep me posted! Thx!
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@JayHawkFanToo I agree, he was great
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And that’s what FA has done to pro sports. Big markets pick and choose from the top of the pile while small markets get the leftovers and hope they have somebody in the minors that can help.
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@nwhawkfan Better Seattle than KC. One thing for sure, he will keep you on the edge of your seat when fly balls are hit in his direction. Rios and Paulo were far better in rf for KC.
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@brooksmd and @globaljaybird here’s to u guys!
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’ll send you my address and you can send me a 6 pack for my b-day and for Christmas.
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@brooksmd I would! When’s your bday? 29 again! Same as me.
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@brooksmd and @globaljaybird
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@Crimsonorblue22 Damn, the secrets out.
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Here is an interesting link with an index for the top free agents and signing predictions…
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@JayHawkFanToo Murphy a post-season hero for the Mets? He did a pretty good job for the Royals they should give him a honorary WS ring.
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@JayHawkFanToo Overall they haven’t done too well with their predictions. They even have Gordo staying with the Royals and Zo going to the NYY’s.
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Didn’t say they were good predictions …
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@brooksmd It may not be as much moneyball as it is leadership at the top. Dayton Moore spoke in Lawrence at KU’s Dole Institute on Thursday evening. Like @Crimsonorblue22 says, stats can’t measure heart.
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2015/dec/03/royals-gm-dayton-moore-speaks-leadership-and-globa/
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@brooksmd & @Crimsonorblue22 Will be absent from the game today-don’t get off till 4 pm so hold down the fort & maybe I can catch ya on the rebound…
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@globaljaybird surprised u remembered that! Probably why I’m sick of this board!
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@globaljaybird you better catch us! Brooks has been pretty busy too. Behave and b safe!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Cueto screwed himself again. D-Backs signed Greinke $200 million plus for 6 yrs. Doubt there’s enough left in the well to get Cueto now.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Often times I feel that way also…just sayin the lack of spontaneity & wit drags down the interest level sometimes. That’s why I enjoy game chats with you &@brooksmd so much I guess. Plus you guys are both as knowledgeable & practical as anyone who posts here. WTH did you think I’d forget what you said ?! have you no faith woman ?!
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@brooksmd Some probably aren’t aware but Zack had a spell or two early in his career in KC when he just disappeared from the team for personal issues for periods of time & like when Moose had family issues this year, the team always kept silent about it. But after a couple of season where he was undependable, he became everything Moore had hoped & then some. Just think how great this team would be with him in the rotation? Wow that money Cueto turned down is just insane. Hope he can afford the prosthetics to replace the feet he just shot off, cause he’s NOWHERE the pitcher Zack is. That kid was absolutely phenomenal in KC & LA.
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@globaljaybird @brooksmd
Dat speed! http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article48329900.html
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@Crimsonorblue22 That’s where my father-in-law lived.
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@brooksmd did you know that before? Pretty cool! Doing ok w/company?
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@Crimsonorblue22 That Dyson was from there? No. And the street would be named “Dat What Speed Do”, not “That”.
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@brooksmd dat right!!!
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OK guys. this is the latest I’ve seen… Joakim Soria has signed a 3 yr contract to return to KC. Plus it is now being reported that KC has their sights set on Scott Kasmere of the Astros. The imminent Winter meetings will surely clear up much of the haze abounding. In addition, another piece of our bullpen is leaving to Oakland… Local news reported that a deal in principle has been reached between the Oakland A’s & Ryan Madsen. http://www.kmbc.com/sports/report-ryan-madson-signs-with-oakland/36825064
And lastly they say that Chris Young will sign a 2 year contract to stay with the Royals…Yeah !! http://www.kctv5.com/story/30683035/royals-begin-to-build-2016-roster…
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@brooksmd These are the latest stories from the Winter meetings in Nashville, http://m.mlb.com/news/article/158916354/4-things-to-watch-for-at-winter-meetings but mine would be hangin out at the Legends Bar… http://legendscorner.com/legends_corner/home.php This place is so damn cool it even makes old guys experience the fountain of youth-live & in person one way or another !!
