Ku mascot being violated.
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Absolutely agree. The explanation defies common sense; they knew what they were doing they just did not anticipate the backlash and bad press they got.
I expect this from a fraternity or a student group but not from the school band, directed by KSU employees while officially representing the school. I have to believe that Bill Snyder is not happy and when Bill Snyder is not happy…well…KSU will have to do something.
On the other hand, the KSU band now and forever will be known as the Marching D!cks…:D
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I would certainly expect at the very least a suspension…and a remedial class in “Band Formations.”
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@JayHawkFanToo but then again, we have SZ!
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Big 12 sanctions
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Good point…maybe he suggested the formation to KSU?..after all he has been screwing the Jayhawk fan base for a while now…
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@JayHawkFanToo ha ha! Think there were more balls in ksu’s formation than SZ has! Sorry! Pretty rude. It’s not the Jayhawk way-(puke)
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@Crimsonorblue22 All the people I work with are purple possessed pussy-cats, including the owner.
I usually don’t say too much, but once in a while I’ll tell a “cute” K-State joke, like “How can you tell the bride at a KSU wedding? She’s the one with the white cut-off overalls”. Or I might give a nice K-State alum a compliment like " You don’t sweat much for a fat girl ".
So I try to get along…
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@nuleafjhawk perfect!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Wow! I didnt think anything would be done about that at all! Its good to see there are people with brains in their heads in office at the Big 12.
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@nuleafjhawk Rolling!
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/lutz-blog/article34363119.html
Nice take from Lutz, wichita eagle
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Good take; makes some of the same point I did. I did not see the post with the sanctions until after I posted my previous post. Interesting that the Conference felt it had to act since the KSU administration apparently was not doing anything.
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The Austin paper had the sanctions imposed by the Big XII headline on their website! It was talked about on sports radio here today, because no one wanted to talk about how bad UT played vs Notre Dame Sat. on national TV.
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If I’m not mistaken, the KSU band committed a State crime by depicting oral sex, especially with an animal and a non-human object. I believe this is still considered a sex crime in Kansas. And that looked like the mini-Jay. Anyone know his age? This could be a depiction of child pornography and with the wide distribution now falls into the federal crime book.
And as we all get a laugh and think I’m being sarcastic… just take my advice and don’t consider peeing in public… unless you want to be labeled as a sex offender for the rest of your life!
For those who still haven’t seen the live version -
Kansas State Marching Band Made A Giant 50-Yard Penis
BTW: be prepared for this to be aired during our game(s) with KSU football… also KSU basketball!
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http://www.gofundme.com/7u3paang
Can this be legal?
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@drgnslayr we are at home for fb, right?
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My son, a professor of music, points out a major irony in this current KSU marching band calamity. Last season KSU was recognized by some publication or other as the #1 collegiate marching band in the nation. Now this!
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The clip made the tonight show with the crowd roaring.
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Yep… our last game of the year… November 28th!
Yes… crowdfunding is legal. I didn’t know this:
“The money will go directly to the band and its scholarship fund since the fine will be paid by the Office of the President.”
So the KSU Big Chief supports this type of behavior by paying the fine? I thought that was levied against the band director?
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I saw that, a gigantic black eye for the state of Kansas.
What amazes me is that all overs social media, most KSU fans are in complete denial and defend the actions of the band and claim that it is all in the minds of Jayhawk fans…unbelievable.
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@drgnslayr all I see is that this incident ended up benefitting the band. I’d really like to see KU administration tell the ksu band to stay home for our game.
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KU had nothing to do with these actions. If Jimmy Fallon wants to show the clip and make jokes in his monologue, if all local TV news show want to show the clip and make comments, if all of social media has picked it up, why is KSU ramping up this hatred of KU? By the way, this is the most asinine of all of these attack from a Salina Congressman. Read his middle tweet. He’s lucky that he is gerrymandered in his district.
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/prairie-politics/article34416150.html
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@wrwlumpy I also read this. Maybe @nuleafjhawk could speak more on this guy from Salina. Last I knew he lived in an apt on mass street. Haven’t heard lately but he had a live in gal that was engaged to a friend of my sons. She was enrolled at KU but didn’t attend classes. That was awhile back. Not the brightest! I did read he was on a list who missed a lot of sessions.
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http://ksn.com/2015/09/09/kansas-state-band-director-speaks-out-about-halftime-show/
Wildcat way, repeat
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Unbelievable that anyone is really offended or really cares. It was simply funny. You know, college humor?
But ooooohhh, evil KSU. Along the way, let’s demean ourselves by our indignant overreaction. Everyone has to be offended about something.
Sometimes you have to laugh at your self a bit.
Really, they should have turned that Jayhawk around and rammed that Starship Enterprise right where the sun don’t shine – that’s a more appropriate demonstration during football season for the old Jayhawks of late.
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I’m offended and here’s why. I was raised with an ethic that didn’t tolerate crude, sexually explicit, or innuendo material. Dad would shut the TV off if the word sex was mentioned. Now this was the 60’s and 70’s so it wasn’t like every minute like it is today.
IF KSU’s explanation was that it was the star trek thing and non of them had any intention of communicating a sexual message, then fine, it was funny. But IF it was as many/most saw it, then it’s highly offensive. How many children were at that game that knew nothing of oral sex and whose parents didn’t think they wanted to explain it to their 7 or 8 year old?
You call it college humor. Does college humor mean it has to be crude? I have college kids and I wouldn’t brush it off if one of them made a similar joke as ‘college humor’.
I know we’re never going back to puritan Victorian values in this country and probably shouldn’t. But I don’t want to see a rated R half time show on the football field either.
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@HighEliteMajor I am offended, who uses the 1920’s version of the Jayhawk anyways? That was unbelievable!
And if the situation were reversed it would be the end of the world for little brother out west…that’s just it, no one from KU hates k-state, they are like a little sister, we hate those to the east, we don’t like kentucky, etc…But they hate us, they have to do stuff like this to try and make a rival. I think that’s why you can write this off, because ksu is our little sister, we let it go.
What would your stance be if missery had done this? I think a majority (myself included) would go from a “that’s just hicks being dumb” to “I’m irate!”
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@wissoxfan83 Well I can’t disagree there. Our society has gone down the tubes. The liberals have won. More sex, more pushing the limit, more moral equivalency. I wasn’t looking at it from that perspective. I was looking at from us being offended as Jayhawk fans. Good point.
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For me, it’s the non-apology apology that really looks bad. Just own it and admit you were trying to be clever not realizing the backlash would be so embarrassing to the university. And where is Bill Snyder. How could he not know about the negative pub this brings to a program he’s nurtured for several decades? I’ve always had a lot of respect for Snyder but unless he’s too old or has been completely kept in the dark about the half time show, one would think that he’d have something to say considering they named the football stadium in his honor. Thought he had grandkids…
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I got a chuckle out of all this… and I wasted no time throwing some sarcasm at it to milk the moment for everything.
However, I do respect that not everyone has my loose sense of decorum boundaries. And for that reason, I find it to have been totally inappropriate.
But hey… let’s enjoy watching KSU defend themselves and just be silent observers without a reaction. The real cold “slap in the face” we give it is to not acknowledge it. Kind of like how we don’t acknowledge the Tig trash from Missouri since they left the B12. So they want to kick up the border war again? What border war?
Why give a-holes any attention? I like to focus my attention on quality. People stepping up and contributing to our world.
I have a feeling that the band director is actually a very cool dude. He feel victim to his own naivety and perhaps not micro-managing their formations. Bet he won’t let that happen again! And now he is covering up for someone else… the designer of the scheme and the one who intentionally made it “sexual.” I have no doubt that the person who came up with all of this wasn’t naive, and there was intent.
BTW: this will be a theme returning to our consciousness every time sports media discusses KU and KSU in the same breath. After football season, it will pop up again in basketball season. And the purple kitties will, once again, have to deal with their actions.
All we have to do is not react negatively, or even at all. Just kick back and enjoy the ride!
Wow… what a reaction to their own “sportsmanship pledge!” This is what this is all about… a retaliation against themselves! Kansas never really made a big deal about Jamari getting bumped. This all generates from the league and from within KSU. It’s their reputation… so let’s kick back, chomp some popcorn, and watch the show of KSU building a d-bag reputation! Goooooo, WIldcats!!!
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The KSU troll is being fed right now, and all this attention is exactly what they wanted out of this.
My cousins (all KSU grads) have been trying to rile me up with this and all I’ve responded to them with their band did a good job on that Jayhawk without acknowledging the Enterprise.
I do have a suggestion though to troll them back. If by some miracle KU beats KSU in football this year, our band should play the Star Trek theme while KSU leaves the field and our pep band should play it frequently during the basketball game when we’re wiping the court with them.
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@HighEliteMajor HEM, I pretty much always agree with you. However…
Personally, I thought it was funny too. You’re absolutely right. Because it is pretty funny. That being said, I’m a 20-something college student. This wasn’t in a Manhattan bar where last call is (literally) signaled by chanting “f*ck KU.” This was out in the open for everyone to see, and now, it’s national news. This is not really applicable to college humor. I also really don’t understand the “everyone is so PC these days” argument. When in the expansive history of college sports (or anything really) would this ever have been appropriate? Seriously?
Since leaving Kansas I’m forever confronted by the image problem the state suffers from–for god’s sake, even in Japan I run into it–and stuff like this doesn’t help. And with K-State, it wouldn’t be a problem if it wasn’t a trend. But it is, and that’s the problem. I think taking the “get over it” attitude is the same stupid crap we always have to hear from K-Staters:
“The kid barely bumped Jamari.” “So what if our fans were putting their middle fingers in Wayne Selden’s face after the game. Did you see what Kurtis Townsend did??” “Chanting f*ck KU is a tradition at K-State (which was made worse by the KSU student newspapers saying as such!)” And the latest, “you can hardly see a dick and balls. I think you just have a dirty mind.” The list goes on and on. How about the picture in K-State’s heritage center with some toothless hillbilly wearing a hat that says “beat the gayhawks”?
It’s beyond ridiculous. AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF, you have a state legislator going on twitter and saying, “This. This is offensive. A band formation is not offensive. This is offensive. Also KU blows. #emaw”
Ya, I’m sick and tired of this crap. Give K-State a chance to embarrass and humiliate themselves and they won’t disappoint you. I revel in the negative attention that is being piled on them right now, and I don’t feel bad about that one bit.
One more emendation… I get so much joy from K-State fans saying things like, “I love Jayhawk tears.” Or, “I’m just gonna sit back and listen to Jayhawk fans complain.”
My response to that is: Nope. This is your deal. Not ours. OUR school, band, team, administration is silent. As they should be. Because WE are sitting back with popcorn in hand watching you clowns embarrass yourselves. Just like @nuleafjhawk said below, pay attention everyone, this is what happens when you do stupid things. Don’t do stupid things.
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I say the heck with all of this…
Let’s use this as motivation (chip) to kick their asses in ALL SPORTS!
How ENTERPRISING would that be?
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It’s classless and crude. I found it funny, but not the same way KSU fans are. I’m laughing at them. They have no idea why this is wrong. It truly shows the class of the KSU fanbase.
I am so privileged to be a member of the Jayhawk family.
We were all elevated by Coach Brown and we owe him eternal gratitude for demanding our fanbase be classy.
Keep is classy Lawrence!
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@dylans do you think our students will be classy when the band comes to Lawrence?
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@Crimsonorblue22 I hope so, but it only takes one bad apple…
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There’s been so much publicity over this stupid thing that even I’m starting to get embarrassed over it. It sounds like the whole country (or world) must have their collective hands to their mouths trying to stifle a giggle (or keep a starship out).
I pray that the KU administration, coaches, players, students, fans (and band, I guess) are paying attention. This is what happens when you do stupid things.
Don’t be stupid.
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I had a KSU fan “fly” across the room to poke the mouth of the Jayhawk on my shirt yesterday. I don’t think they are shamed… Once again I just laughed at their complete, unabashed ignorance to why this is socially and morally unaccepable. Doesn’t paint them in a very good light.
My only real concern is they turn into another group of classless antlers. I don’t want a rival like that. Hatred doesn’t make a good rival; you should be able to respect one another before, during, and after the games are played. (But good natured ribbing is to be expected)
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“My only real concern is they turn into another group of classless antlers. I don’t want a rival like that. Hatred doesn’t make a good rival”
You are right… hatred doesn’t make a good rivalry. It has done us all good to remove Mizzou out of our lives. Classless, stupid hatred will get people nowhere. We may not be able to convince the Tigs or Purple Kitties of that, so they will just have to live with their limitations and suffer the consequences. They will receive their own karma paybacks and we don’t need to dirty our hands or distract our minds towards hateful retaliations.
In fact, I feel pity for these people. They don’t have enough of a base mentality to realize they are only hurting themselves. These are the kind of people that if you move their dinner plate 6-inches away, they will starve to death.
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@dylans ewwww!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Sorry just read this article. http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/sep/09/column-k-state-apology-sorry-excuse-apology/
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The guy who got killed at that overpass was a young man from Shawnee.
@dylans – you had a great quote above, “Hatred doesn’t make a good rival; you should be able to respect one another before, during, and after the games are played. (But good natured ribbing is to be expected).”
But your more recent post about the overpass would seem to contradict that. I’m quite confident that the post I quoted is more your intention.
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“In fact, I feel pity for these people. They don’t have enough of a base mentality to realize they are only hurting themselves. These are the kind of people that if you move their dinner plate 6-inches away, they will starve to death.”
Even their president fits into this description. Pity the fool… continuing to demean himself, the band, and the university.
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@HighEliteMajor You caught me in a weak moment. Sorry. I’ll put myself on probation regarding the subject. Fine myself my whole paycheck, to be paid to my wife. No promises about not teeing off on the next KSU screw-up though.
Thanks for the constructive criticism. Please take this the same way, keep to your more positive posts and game analysis. I think you have the same issues I do. You’d fire everyone for incompetence (Self included) and nobody would be good enough to hire. Your GM skills leave a little to be desired, but I think you’d be a great coach! This is not intended as a dig; it’s just my interpretation of your personality on KUBuckets.
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@dylans Cool … thanks.
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Maybe the ksu band should stick to this. (puke)
