Self's post season reflection of the team.
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@BeddieKU23 I heard it on PTI. They were just speculating like the rest of us, but he appears to be considering it more seriously this time.
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@wissoxfan83 I think if he wins the championship this year, there is higher probability of him leaving for NBA. You can’t top an undefeated championship season. He can leave at an all time high.
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IF he left for the NBA which I really believe is unlikely then it would totally send shockwaves through the College ranks. I think he likes the College game and all the attention he and his program get. It won’t get any better going back to the league unless he is given a good team to work with.
Who would they pursue? I don’t even know where you go looking, Cal raised the standard above anyone before him. Would his recruits look elsewhere?
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Cal would have to share the spotlight in the NBA. He is the face of the program at UK. I kinda think he likes the attention.
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@dylans I just want Cal to get burned for some NCAA violation before he bails for the League. That would make a total of 3 schools at that point. Wouldnt he almost have to leave then? I seriously intensely dislike that guy sooooo much!
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The talk about Calipari jumping to the NBA is a circus barker attempt by his agent to renegotiate his contract next month after Kentucky wins the NC (or so they think). This horse and pony show should sound familiar… it’s what came around in 2012 after Calipari won his first NC.
This is also going on now down in Wichita. Marshall’s agent is already trying to talk up a possible move to Alabama. If, by chance, WSU can win the NC this year, Marshall’s agent will have plenty of leverage to renegotiate his current contract.
Cal has no business in the NBA. His recruiting advantage is gone, then he has to win based on his coaching… and he is no coach. He may do a great job keeping college OADs on the same page, but the NBA is 100x more involved than college. There is a reason why he did so poorly his first go-round in the league… because he stunk!
If you want to know how good a coach he really is… take him and swap him out at ISU next year, with the Mayor’s group of transfers and juco players. Let’s see Calipari contend for a B12 conference title, let alone a seeding in March. ISU wouldn’t even play 500-ball. I’m saying this on the basis that the Mayor doesn’t land any 5-star players this year… he might surprise some people!
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I think we get 4 new players in next year. They may not all be Freshmen. Transfer in, transfer out.
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I think it would be great if we could sign at least one transfer that can play right away and contribute. Otherwise… we will need probably 3 or more new guys that need to contribute and are freshmen. Another year of being “one of the younger teams in college basketball.”
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@drgnslayr Our starting 5 could include Mason (Junior) Selden (Junior) BG (Junior) Perry (Senior) and someone else. I don’t think Bill will have the youth excuse this year.
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@BeddieKU23 Very nice personnel summary.
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@joeloveshawks BG wont start if KU lands another 5 star wing. Svi will also contend for a starting spot next season too. I can see it comin. Kids a stud with a better handle and defense iq
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@brooksmd I don’t buy the argument that they lay off on purpose for NBA draft. I think it is more as has been discussed that they haven’t needed to and/or learned to sustain a hard work ethic.
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@joeloveshawks Unless BG suddenly learns how to play D he won’t be starting. My bet is Svi would get the starting nod over BG.
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@drgnslayr Another Tarik transfer but with more years of elgibility.
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Kansas & Pittsburgh head coaches watching Mike Thorne Jerry Meyer - 6 hours ago 0 Newsletter 0 12 Charlotte transfer Mike Thorne is being watched by Kansas head coach Bill Self today, and Pittsburgh’s Jamie Dixon will be in tomorrow according to recruiting analyst Evan Daniels.
A 6-11. 270-pound post player, Thorne averaged 10.1 points and 7.3 rebounds per game as a junior.
As a graduate transfer, Thorne has immediate eligibility.
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Xavier Henry sandbagged the final 3rd of the season, noticed by many. No doubt on daddy Carl’s advice, who was an absolute cancer at his son’s practices, finally getting banned from the sideline by Self.
Xavier himself was a wonderfully nice young man who loved his KU college time, and makes it back routinely for games in AFH. I wish him the best despite his daddy…
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Right on!
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@ralster do you think Self will ask an ex player? Who would you pick? I know it depends on who we recruit.
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Along with 41 other teams! Read that many teams are after him which speaks volumes to how in-demand a near footer with skill can be. I heard Virginia Tech may have an inside track with him as Buzz Williams recruited him in HS. We will see we are definitely the biggest school to reach out so hopefully Self sells a good thing.
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@brooksmd I agree. BG probably won’t start unless he adds to his game.
I still feel that we are a “veteran” team next year and that if we lose in the tourney Self will not be able to say “KU is young and WSU is old and that is that”. Mason, Selden and Ellis will start so no matter who the other 2 players are there will be 2 juniors and a senior in the starting lineup.
Jamari is a senior and will play big minutes. BG is a junior and will get big minutes. Lucas is a red shirt junior and will likely see a lot of time. Mickelson will be a senior.
Graham, Bragg and Svi are the only guys right now who will see minutes that are underclassmen. We will more than likely add another good freshman that will see minutes but this will be a veteran squad.
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Same team just a year older it’s going to take more than that to correct the issues we had. Same terrible 2pt% shooting team, same bunch that had the most blocked shots in the country. Then you consider KU is more than likely to lose the 2 most athletic players from that team.
Big minutes from Mari is exactly why were are recruiting bigs still. We need to find an option that will drop his minutes in half.
Other than Ellis & Mason the rest of the team is in full development mode this off-season. Those 2 already have skill set in place that just needs refining. The rest Selden included need major work on their games.
It will be interesting to see who else we add and how serious the team takes the off-season.
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@BeddieKU23 I understand your points but show some optimism!!
Notre Dame last year went 15-17. They have essentially the same team this year and they are 1 game away from the Final 4 and just beat the sh*t out of a team that murdered KU. A lot can happen in a year.
Rock Chalk.
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They also didn’t have Jerian Grant last year who is the unquestioned leader of that team. Jackson was a top prospect who we recruited btw he had an so-so freshman year. He blew up this year like Mason did. Auguste doubled his production, Vasturia doubled his & Connaughton finally had the players around him to shine. Brey found a winning formula and style of play.
The optimism would be that guys like Greene, Svi, Lucas, Graham will improve and increase their production. Optimism would be Selden finding the consistency and becoming a 12-13pt scorer. I believe that could happen, but right now the facts are without adding anything else its hard to imagine maturity alone will be the reason this team gets better. We will definitely see though.
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@BeddieKU23 Agree to disagree. As usual my glass is half full and I see Greene, Selden and Svi all improving. Why can’t they “double their production” like the ND guys did? Maybe my belief in Coach Self being able to not only recruit great players but to turn them into better players is clouding my vision.
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@joeloveshawks I agree w/you!!!
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I absolutely agree that Self can take players and help them become better players. Mason more than doubled his production. Ellis improved mightily on defense and for a period before the injury was unstoppable. If Greene doubles his production we are looking at one of our leading scorers, that would be terrific. He’s got the stroke for it, just needs the game now. Svi can easily become a player that gets between 5-7pts a game with extended playing time. Maybe even more we don’t know the progression in which he will take off yet.
Selden ehhh not likely to double, but if he went up to 12-13 where Mason was this year he would win this team more games next year.
I’m very optimistic but at the same time I also understand that this ship won’t go any farther than the last 2 if we don’t improve a bunch. Chemistry should be better, guys should understand what it truly takes to win in March now, and Self should have his guys more prepared in the fall because of it. We will see what it translates too…
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@BeddieKU23 my only question, how did BG gets this far w/out dribbling skills? Hopefully he goes to all wkouts, and on time, takes a deep look at himself and figures out what he needs to do. Refreshing to see his dad is behind Self!
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@drgnslayr My thoughts as well. Thanks.
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@Crimsonorblue22 My apologies as maybe I spaced-off on the context of your question about * “do you think Self will ask an ex-player? Who would you pick?”* Are we talking about asst.coach? I personally think Snacks should be gone. I mean what can he possibly add on the sideline, other than being a cheerleader in a suit? I’d rather look at the real cheerleaders in the minidresses…lol.
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I’m really not sure how but in game situations I cringe every time he’s putting it on the floor. He’s another that adding quickness to his game would be as big a benefit as anything. Defense may always be his Achilles so I’m not going to go there. But we saw Ellis improve Soph. to Jr year defensively.
I think he’s such a gifted shooter that getting him to play hard, practice hard, and stay committed has been, well hard. It’s almost like shooting comes too easy to him and therefore he forgets that’s only one aspect of being a great basketball player. If he’s the one guy that makes that BIG leap forward than KU has a much better chance of being a great team. How’s that for Optimism!!
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@ralster world games, who would you ask if we could take other players?
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"…how did BG gets this far w/out dribbling skills? "
And how did he get this far w/out being able to score off the dribble? He must have spent his whole life with his dad feeding him spot ups.
There is no room at the next level for spot up shooters. You have to be able to move and score. Create your own scoring, too.
