Generic soccer thread



  • @nwhawkfan said in Generic soccer thread:

    @rockchalkjayhawk https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4779936/will-marsch-follow-gerrard-out-of-job-as-fans-lose-patience/

    ouch. tough life being an EPL coach! Interesting tidbit from the story…Leeds may be weaker this season than the ended last year. Lost some guys to transfer, and didn’t spend to bring better guys in. Sucks.

    It is a similar story at Leeds, where Marsch lost midfielder Kalvin Phillips (to Manchester City) and forward Raphinha (Barcelona) for fees totalling almost £100m, while club-record signing Daniel James also left on loan to Fulham. The Elland Road recruitment team replaced them with a variety of players with little or no Premier League experience, such as Brenden Aaronson, Luis Sinisterra, Tyler Adams and Rasmus Kristensen. Having avoided relegation only on the final day of last season, Leeds arguably went into this season with a weaker squad after allowing three key players to leave in the summer, so it is no surprise that Marsch’s team would be struggling and now in the bottom three.



  • Pulisic amazingly got a start today in UCL!



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:

    Pulisic amazingly got a start today in UCL!

    He got an assist on the winning goal too !

    Hope this means more playing time for him, though I’m not too optimistic based on past history. Graham Potter may still see him as one of “Tuchel’s guys.”



  • @nwhawkfan i dont think the “Tuchels guys” label is a concern with Potter, but I may be wrong. I think Tuchel lost the lockerroom. I’m more concerned that Raheem Sterling is a better left wing.



  • More injury problems for the USA squad with just over three weeks to go till the World Cup. Goalie Matt Turner was kept out of Arsenal’s Europa League game today with groin “discomfort.”

    And Tyler Adams may not make the lineup again for Leeds this weekend, after missing last Sunday’s game with Fulham. Bad timing all around.

    At least Gio Reyna is on the comeback trial after his latest injury (knock on wood). He scored for Dortmund last weekend against Stuttgart.

    https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bundesliga/news/gio-reyna-rocking-again-with-on-song-borussia-dortmund-usmnt-world-cup-21693/



  • Ugh. We need all our stars to be healthy, and quickly!

    The semi positive is that i think we have at least three goalies who are semi interchangeable. Not too worried if Turner goes down. But hope he doesn’t.

    Adams would be a bummer to replace. Need him.

    Reyna: who knows. As others have said in the Chiefs thread, he’s a wildcard to me.



  • Holy shit turds. Chelsea got boat raced today by Brighton.

    They looked like absolute slugs. Defense? Ha!

    Pulisic, until i stopped watching mid second half, was no help whatsoever.

    In fact he missed what should have been a semi easy goal early on. his defensive effort was lethargic, like the rest of em.

    Silva continues to look like he’s lost 10 steps of quickness. He made multiple mistakes today, then miraculously headed away his mistakes on the goal line.

    Haven’t seen much of Christian lately, but he’s not helping himself with performances like today’s.



  • I watched that Pulisic point-blank miss off the rebound. Ouch.

    This is turning into a real mess for the USMNT. Other than Reyna (who’s still on the comeback trail and only played as a sub this weekend), I don’t know how many quality healthy bodies we’ll even have for the World Cup. The ones we do have are proving to be mostly ineffective in league play…when they get minutes, that is.

    McKennie’s got a bad quad. De La Torre is out for a few weeks with a hamstring injury. Turner? Groin. Our other goalie, Steffen, is still recovering from a knee knock. Then there’s Weah, Robinson and Musah.

    This isn’t a national team, it’s a MASH unit.

    Not sure how healthy he is, but at least Adams got minutes in that Leeds “upset” at Liverpool. (I almost hesitate to call it an upset, since the Reds seem to be making a habit out of losing to last-place teams this season.)

    Wish it weren’t so, but it’s not looking good for the USA’s “golden generation.” At the very least, all this attrition is killing our depth as we get closer and closer to November 21st.



  • @nwhawkfan said in Generic soccer thread:

    I watched that Pulisic point-blank miss off the rebound. Ouch.

    This is turning into a real mess for the USMNT. Other than Reyna (who’s still on the comeback trail and only played as a sub this weekend), I don’t know how many quality healthy bodies we’ll even have for the World Cup. The ones we do have are proving to be mostly ineffective in league play…when they get minutes, that is.

    McKennie’s got a bad quad. De La Torre is out for a few weeks with a hamstring injury. Turner? Groin. Our other goalie, Steffen, is still recovering from a knee knock. Then there’s Weah, Robinson and Musah.

    This isn’t a national team, it’s a MASH unit.

    Not sure how healthy he is, but at least Adams got minutes in that Leeds “upset” at Liverpool. (I almost hesitate to call it an upset, since the Reds seem to be making a habit out of losing to last-place teams this season.)

    Wish it weren’t so, but it’s not looking good for the USA’s “golden generation.” At the very least, all this attrition is killing our depth as we get closer and closer to November 21st.

    Man, I’ve been reading about the health of our players, or lack of.

    Just getting worse and worse for our World Cup hopes. Crap.



  • Well maybe England will look as poor without Reece James as Chelsea does 🤞🏻



  • @approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:

    Well many England will look as poor without Reece James as Chelsea does 🤞🏻

    Love Reece James’ game! Hard nosed, strong player with skill.



  • Paul Pogba was just ruled out of the WC for France. Can’t come back from knee surgery in time. One of the veterans of the Belgium team, Lukaku, is also questionable after injuring his hamstring.

    You’ve got to figure that the compressed schedules caused by moving the tournament to late fall are mostly to blame for the rash of injuries. Teams have to play twice a week (plus Champions & Europa League matches) just to fit all the games in. Even younger stars like Pogba are having trouble staying healthy. At least MLS-based players have a slight advantage in that area, since their regular season only had to be shifted by a few weeks.



  • @nwhawkfan said in Generic soccer thread:

    Paul Pogba was just ruled out of the WC for France. Can’t come back from knee surgery in time. One of the veterans of the Belgium team, Lukaku, is also questionable after injuring his hamstring.

    You’ve got to figure that the compressed schedules caused by moving the tournament to late fall are mostly to blame for the rash of injuries. Teams have to play twice a week (plus Champions & Europa League matches) just to fit all the games in. Even younger stars like Pogba are having trouble staying healthy. At least MLS-based players have a slight advantage in that area, since their regular season only had to be shifted by a few weeks.

    yup, the entire Qatar WC is a joke. $$$$$$$$ rules the world. bribery and $. a winter World Cup? just ridiculous.



  • While watching all the tributes to Pele over the weekend, it occurred to me that not many people know that he played a match in Kansas City back in 1968. On the 4th of July, no less.

    His club team Santos was touring the US that summer to play against NASL teams, and among the stops they made was a friendly against the KC Spurs at Municipal Stadium. I was a ball boy for the Spurs that season and got a comp ticket to see him play. This was years before he would burst onto the radar of American sports fans as a member of the New York Cosmos.

    I don’t remember much about the game, other than (a) the small contingent of Brazilian fans made LOTS more noise than the thousands of Spurs fans in the stands; and (b) he was by FAR the best player on the field.

    Too bad the Spurs went out of business a couple of years later. (Ironically, it happened just months after Pele got his third World Cup win for Brazil in Mexico.) If they’d survived into the mid-Seventies, I might have gotten another chance to witness greatness in person.

    https://funwhileitlasted.net/2018/03/11/1968-1970-kansas-city-spurs/



  • @nwhawkfan said in Generic soccer thread:

    While watching all the tributes to Pele over the weekend, it occurred to me that not many people know that he played a match in Kansas City back in 1968. On the 4th of July, no less.

    His club team Santos was touring the US that summer to play against NASL teams, and among the stops they made was a friendly against the KC Spurs at Municipal Stadium. I was a ball boy for the Spurs that season and got a comp ticket to see him play. This was years before he would burst onto the radar of American sports fans as a member of the New York Cosmos.

    I don’t remember much about the game, other than (a) the small contingent of Brazilian fans made LOTS more noise than the thousands of Spurs fans in the stands; and (b) he was by FAR the best player on the field.

    Too bad the Spurs went out of business a couple of years later. (Ironically, it happened just months after Pele got his third World Cup win for Brazil in Mexico.) If they’d survived into the mid-Seventies, I might have gotten another chance to witness greatness in person.

    https://funwhileitlasted.net/2018/03/11/1968-1970-kansas-city-spurs/

    That would have been great, being a ball boy when Pele was playing. amazing.

    I was fortunate to see him play with the Cosmos in NYC way back when, or actually i think the team was playing at the Meadowlands by then. I was just a kid, but still a memory.



  • Leeds! So awesome that McKennie is joining the club.

    Hoping the three amigos can keep them in the EPL. Aaronsen and Adams have to be excited.



  • Im not so high on McKennie as i am on adams and aaronsen but agree its great that theres a team amassing high profile Americans we can root for several times a week



  • For sure. I was on a Chelsea binge for awhile, but since Pulisic is hurt, and rarely plays, i need a new team to watch. Step right up, Leeds!

    I like McKennie. he’s a great player in the middle. Defends, moves forward. box to box.



  • @rockchalkjayhawk im still watching Chelsea 🙂 they just signed Enzo. Mgmt spending serious cabbage now.



  • Jesse Marsch gets the axe!

    Very odd timing. Give him a chance with the upgraded roster! Don’t you normally part ways with the manager before bringing in new players? Weird.

    Anyway, sounds like he’s now clear to make a run for USMNT coach.



  • Man, i’m rooting so hard for Leeds to succeed, but they just can’t win a match.

    They gave up one of the shittiest goals i’ve seen today against lowly Everton to lose. It was like the goalie was taking a nap with the ball near the box. Zip, right by him.

    Would suck to see Adams and McKennie (and aaronsen) have to find new teams after demotion.



  • @rockchalkjayhawk Thierry Henry for USMNT coach maybe?



  • Interesting. Big name for sure, with maybe not a full resume as far as coaching experience.

    I’m open to all, except maybe Jesse Marsch. I think his style makes it hard for players to buy in to the system.

    I don’t personally think that some of the BIG names from Europe are good fits either. They are used to a talent pool and skill level that the US probably can’t equal.



  • @rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:

    Interesting. Big name for sure, with maybe not a full resume as far as coaching experience.

    I’m open to all, except maybe Jesse Marsch. I think his style makes it hard for players to buy in to the system.

    I don’t personally think that some of the BIG names from Europe are good fits either. They are used to a talent pool and skill level that the US probably can’t equal.

    Yeah, all good points. The revolution may be led by someone who is not televised.



  • @approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:

    @rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:

    Interesting. Big name for sure, with maybe not a full resume as far as coaching experience.

    I’m open to all, except maybe Jesse Marsch. I think his style makes it hard for players to buy in to the system.

    I don’t personally think that some of the BIG names from Europe are good fits either. They are used to a talent pool and skill level that the US probably can’t equal.

    Yeah, all good points. The revolution may be led by someone who is not televised.

    totally!


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