18 Point Dogs to the Bears
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@stoptheflop said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I would like to see MacVittie play two series, but maybe he’s still hurt from game 1.
If that’s the case that’s another story because Daniels clearly isn’t ready yet.
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@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
Daniels is very sped up tonight and has made a bunch of mistakes. Fumbles, bad throws, bad reads, taking off too quickly. Outside of the first drive when Baylor clearly wasn’t expecting Daniels to start, has done next to nothing tonight and Daniels has looked overwhelmed and panicky tonight. He might be ready later this season, but he’s not ready yet to me.
ummm by far , by far not Daniels snaps low and wide - - Gardner drops a WIDE open td Highshaw can’t pick up one YARD ON 4TH and 1 - that’s NOT Daniels - -that’s on your offensive line NOT FANIELS he is doing fine , sure 1st game jitters but like they announcers saying on the radio much QUICKER release on his throws - -sure the hell don’t need Macvittie to stink thinks up and he is a SENIOR where is his leadership ? - - back at the ranch thats where
Daniels has bobbled multiple snaps, the Gardner drop was poor placement by Daniels, overthrowing a wide open Parchment in the end zone, putting passes in places where the receivers have to stop and adjust instead of hitting the receivers in stride. Hanging on to the ball too long because he’s not going to his progressions or pulling the ball because his initial read isn’t there. The OLine has absolutely nothing to do with those issues. Those are 100% on Daniels, not the OLine.
He’s made a bunch of mistakes tonight that MacVittie wouldn’t have made because MacVittie has college experience.
Jalon Daniels should be the back up to MacVittie right now getting 2-3 series a game in more controlled.scenarios to ease him into playing and then hand the keys over to him midseason when he’s better adjusted and equipped to the job.
that’s a joke man but you have fun you make no sense period POOR PLACEMENT - -roflmao are you fricking serious - -REALLY come on man it was right there you couldn’t sk for a bettehr thrown ball lmao - -good night time for bed
Yes, ball placement makes a big deal in the catch ability of a pass. That pass to Gardner was over his outside shoulder instead of his inside shoulder. That’s he why didn’t catch that pass.
he flat dropped it plain and simple NO ONE within 7 yards of him couldn’t of been served better
Just stop, you’re lack of football knowledge is shining bright right now. Go watch Pat Mahomes hit receivers in stride and watch Daniels put the ball in bad spots and still tell me ball placement doesn’t matter.
That sack was bad sack to take because of field position. Throwing it away instead of losing yardage and taking another hit from a defender was the better play.
ahh thank you that makes me feel so special thank you So now we are to the point we are trying to compare a KU QB to Pat Maholmes - -gotta ya - -perfect geez holy shit man what a piece of work
Because reading comprehension clearly isn’t your strong suit so I guess that does make me the idiot for watching football with a coaches eye and trying to point out the flaws in Daniels game to someone who clearly doesn’t understand the more detailed aspects of QB play.
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One more possession … beyond that my wife will divorce me for watching
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
Daniels is very sped up tonight and has made a bunch of mistakes. Fumbles, bad throws, bad reads, taking off too quickly. Outside of the first drive when Baylor clearly wasn’t expecting Daniels to start, has done next to nothing tonight and Daniels has looked overwhelmed and panicky tonight. He might be ready later this season, but he’s not ready yet to me.
ummm by far , by far not Daniels snaps low and wide - - Gardner drops a WIDE open td Highshaw can’t pick up one YARD ON 4TH and 1 - that’s NOT Daniels - -that’s on your offensive line NOT FANIELS he is doing fine , sure 1st game jitters but like they announcers saying on the radio much QUICKER release on his throws - -sure the hell don’t need Macvittie to stink thinks up and he is a SENIOR where is his leadership ? - - back at the ranch thats where
Daniels has bobbled multiple snaps, the Gardner drop was poor placement by Daniels, overthrowing a wide open Parchment in the end zone, putting passes in places where the receivers have to stop and adjust instead of hitting the receivers in stride. Hanging on to the ball too long because he’s not going to his progressions or pulling the ball because his initial read isn’t there. The OLine has absolutely nothing to do with those issues. Those are 100% on Daniels, not the OLine.
He’s made a bunch of mistakes tonight that MacVittie wouldn’t have made because MacVittie has college experience.
Jalon Daniels should be the back up to MacVittie right now getting 2-3 series a game in more controlled.scenarios to ease him into playing and then hand the keys over to him midseason when he’s better adjusted and equipped to the job.
that’s a joke man but you have fun you make no sense period POOR PLACEMENT - -roflmao are you fricking serious - -REALLY come on man it was right there you couldn’t sk for a bettehr thrown ball lmao - -good night time for bed
Yes, ball placement makes a big deal in the catch ability of a pass. That pass to Gardner was over his outside shoulder instead of his inside shoulder. That’s he why didn’t catch that pass.
he flat dropped it plain and simple NO ONE within 7 yards of him couldn’t of been served better
Just stop, you’re lack of football knowledge is shining bright right now. Go watch Pat Mahomes hit receivers in stride and watch Daniels put the ball in bad spots and still tell me ball placement doesn’t matter.
That sack was bad sack to take because of field position. Throwing it away instead of losing yardage and taking another hit from a defender was the better play.
ahh thank you that makes me feel so special thank you So now we are to the point we are trying to compare a KU QB to Pat Maholmes - -gotta ya - -perfect geez holy shit man what a piece of work
Because reading comprehension clearly isn’t your strong suit so I guess that does make me the idiot for watching football with a coaches eye and trying to point out the flaws in Daniels game to someone who clearly doesn’t understand the more detailed aspects of QB play.
ok Coach thanks for your input you are right I’m sure - -you have a great night now ok
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@DanR said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
One more possession … beyond that my wife will divorce me for watching
lol
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Well no turnovers tonight so I guess if your looking for progress that’s good thing - -Wait can that be right ZERO turnovers
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Hey folks, its stressful to struggle with KU football. But, let’s remain friendly here. Differences of opinion are fine. Welcome even. But, let’s just let everyone comment and move on without getting personal, please. There’s only about 5 of us here. We can’t afford to lose anyone.
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Good stop Let’s go!
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Huh - I’ll be dam they just said ball thrown wide but CAUGHT -well shoosh my mouth - -maybe just a difference of quality receiver ya think I mean Jalen throws wide and it’s his fault he drops it right in their hands and it’s his fault but like I’ve been told what do I know - - nothing lol ok I’m done have agreat night I’ll go home now lol
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@jayballer67 I agree with you on Daniels…Daniels is the future for ku this year. I rather play a freshman who clearly has a strong upside this year then play some old senior who couldn’t out compete an average Carter Stanley. The junior Kendrick I would have been fine with giving a little more of a chance, but here on out we should play Daniels. Daniels will grow more from playing then sitting on the bench… you can’t help that our o line sucks, defense is not good. We have talent at skill positions but too many other flaws. Offensive play calling has been suspect and pooka played at wide receiver way too many times
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67 yds rushing through 3 quarters is a real problem. I really thought our rushing game would come together this year.
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Unless you think it will ruin Daniels by continuing to play him I like doing to to get him experience.
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Need to see pooka for 99
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@stoptheflop said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
67 yds rushing through 3 quarters is a real problem. I really thought our rushing game would come together this year.
agree not sure what’s happened to our running game. - Could ve the O-Line just not getting the hole opened- kinda disapointing
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Off to Netflix. Rock chalk
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@jayhawks2010 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 I agree with you on Daniels…Daniels is the future for ku this year. I rather play a freshman who clearly has a strong upside this year then play some old senior who couldn’t out compete an average Carter Stanley. The junior Kendrick I would have been fine with giving a little more of a chance, but here on out we should play Daniels. Daniels will grow more from playing then sitting on the bench… you can’t help that our o line sucks, defense is not good. We have talent at skill positions but too many other flaws. Offensive play calling has been suspect and pooka played at wide receiver way too many times
Ya I’d rather seen Kendrick before MacVittie - - anybody but that him. , and again your right if he is the QB of this team why couldn’t he beat out Stanley ? Danils and Easters are our future, and the only way to gain experience is game reps - your sure not gaining any by running QB in practice. - -We knew before this season began we are still a bout a year or two out - but why waste another year with a kid like MacVittie when Daniels can get reps and still come back without losing any eligibilty couldn’t agree more
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@DanR is a safety a TO?
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well i called 58-13 others called worse were getting there
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@BShark might kill him
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@stoptheflop said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
67 yds rushing through 3 quarters is a real problem. I really thought our rushing game would come together this year.
What has KU’s passing game done to make a defense not keep keying on Pooka or Gardner though? This is what’s going to happen all year because KU doesn’t have a competent QB on the roster. Pooka is a great back, but defenses are going to load up to stop the run because the passing game isn’t a serious threat.
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Yeah!
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man crazy , they just said what would you say that Baylor only has 46 more yards of offense then Ku ? - - Saying the two returns by ebner was huge
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Pooka for 15-70 yds and 5.6 average- -
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Brewer they said only had 142 yards passing - -Daniels 127 yards - - - -again those two big returns for TD’s
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if nobody scores again did pretty good on prediction. Earlier in the thread I said 26-27 point spread right now 26, I think still we are going to see more of Daniels not great but was better then the other option and we got him for 4 more years - he gonna be all right
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Is there a single position group that’s playing at a D-1 level? Where does a competent coaching staff start with this team? I saw some comments that we nearly won the total yds. category, which was KU 328 to BA 352. But its the scoreboard that matters. How in the hell does the defense give up 45 points (not counting the safety) on 352 yds. Did any of our coaches earn their paychecks since the loss to CC?
But, it’s clear that Daniels is our QB. Finally, we have one QB. So, the plan for the rest of the year is just to show up, get our asses kicked and hope some year in the future we field a competitive team.
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@stoptheflop said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
Is there a single position group that’s playing at a D-1 level? Where does a competent coaching staff start with this team? I saw some comments that we nearly won the total yds. category, which was KU 328 to BA 352. But its the scoreboard that matters. How in the hell does the defense give up 45 points (not counting the safety) on 352 yds. Did any of our coaches earn their paychecks since the loss to CC?
But, it’s clear that Daniels is our QB. Finally, we have one QB. So, the plan for the rest of the year is just to show up, get our asses kicked and hope some year in the future we field a competitive team.
Well your right chances are , were are going to continue to be the whipping boy for another year maybe two. Your also right we have our QB of the future. He has to learn his position by being put in and getting game reps. You and I agreed on this last night.
Since I was so sweetly informed that my lack of football knowledge was very clear - So I decided to hear input from people who REALLY DO HAVE FOOTBALL KNOWLEDGE. - -former KU players , Brandon McAnderson & David Lawerence , an ya Brian Hanni but I really don’t include him - - I’m talking about football players.
So after I will say what I heard from them then we will probably be told that THEY also have no football knowledge lmao… - We heard from the past that if Daniels was better then he would be out there - -well ummm hello , him taking every single snap last night , none of this back and forth crap. - Laweerence And McAnderson both said at least with Daniels there is hope , and they said even after when the game was out of reach - they said the thing they kept thinking wanting to see more of Daniels.
They talked about what a cannon of a arm Jalen has & how those flare and little passes in the flat that always got resulted in losses - -they said those plays take time and you have to get the ball out quick - -previous QB’S haven’t been able to do that - - -Jalen doesn’t have that problem
Listening to the conference with Miles he was pretty satisified with Daniels - -he is the future at QB for us - totally different then McVittie , people talking about how he had so much more experience - - Coach’s realize in order for him to get better he needs those game reps - -thusly that came last night. - -the more reps he gets the better he will be -Good size , think they said he was 6 ft or 6’1 and like 214 pounds.
David Lawrence and McAnderson just kept talking about Daniels and saying when they saw him in the practices they wer truly impressed. - No comparison in arm strength, Did he miss receivers? - -sure he di - -did receivers drop passes ?- -Umm yep Did he fumble some snaps - -umm ya , this was his 1st game -people gonna make some mistakes , but overall much , much , much better then the other options - -another reason he played every snap - -if the other two guys are that much better then why didn’t they take Daniels out ?
I’m thinking I will respect formers players who just might have a little more COLLEGE FOOTBALL knowledge then some in here - ya Ithink I’ll take what they have to say a little more then others -there has been several people fans that have been wanting to see Danils get this. - -I’m thinking you will see him again and soon.
Do you realize that here at Ku for the past 11 off seasons we haven’t known who is going to be the starting QB the following season. - that was brought up too. 11 Seasons - hard to get any kind of continuity with that being the case - -I think your probably gonna see more of a single QB for us instead of this rotating all the time. - -For sure lose nothing by playing Jalen this year - like a free year of game rep experience for him and STILL have him for 4 more years.- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer67 probably got the point
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jb, I always appreciate your input. You always research far and wide for information. Since sports are so unpredictable, anyone may use hindsight to point out someone else’s incorrect opinion or statement. Oh well, I’m wrong most of the time; I thought (hoped) KU would make a much closer game of it with the Bears. Wrong, wrong, and really wrong.
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@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 honestly like what’s the upside of MacVittie. At least playing Daniels you have the ability to see if the kid has it, and if he doesn’t show progression you know recruiting wise to move on. This team won’t make a bowl game!!! MacVittie had his chance week one and blew it against a mid major team. Daniels has D1 athleticism and arm strength. Maybe he will be a cozart and struggle with field vision. But I’d rather sit and watch to see if he progresses then the alternative.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 probably got the point
i would hope so
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@jayhawks2010 I thought MacVittie did OK against CC. Sure the first INT was a little high, but not so bad he deserved to be benched. Then came the fumble on the cluster… play that had our own players colliding. That wasn’t MacVittie’s fault. I thought Mac looked OK; he had a certain presence taking snaps, But, as a senior so what. OK he improves and maybe wins a game. Or, Daniels plays and gets better to the point we have a decent QB for three more years.
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@stoptheflop said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
jb, I always appreciate your input. You always research far and wide for information. Since sports are so unpredictable, anyone may use hindsight to point out someone else’s incorrect opinion or statement. Oh well, I’m wrong most of the time; I thought (hoped) KU would make a much closer game of it with the Bears. Wrong, wrong, and really wrong.
sorry to say probably gonna see much more of this this year. But stay strong , like they were saying people have to remember Coach Miles came in late , and last year , his FIRST year he actually didn’t do bad in putting a class together. - -this year his 2nd we are seeing better athletic talent he has gotten verbals from - - just takes time to clean up a mess and this was a real dumpster fire.
I think sounds like Daniels might start next week- - maybe not , but at least he is getting that experience. - Like Scott Chasen is saying in the article he wrote think Coach is indicating they looking to the future - - hope no one thought this was going to be a breakout year. - - Like Lawrence and them were saying this is Les 2nd year people patience, he is getting athletes - they are playing some really young players.
Freshmen QB , Soph running back , Redshirt freshmen on defensive side , ( Parker I believe : - -hell remember who all they brought up - -hang in there buddy the waters will calm and we will be competitive soon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@stoptheflop I thought miles said he was still hurt after the game, hard to understand him though.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Somehow, I don’t get to listen to the interviews after the game. I don’t own a radio any more, except in the car. I wondered during the game if it would have helped Daniels to watch a couple of series on the sidelines. MacVittie being hurt makes sense.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayhawks2010 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 honestly like what’s the upside of MacVittie. At least playing Daniels you have the ability to see if the kid has it, and if he doesn’t show progression you know recruiting wise to move on. This team won’t make a bowl game!!! MacVittie had his chance week one and blew it against a mid major team. Daniels has D1 athleticism and arm strength. Maybe he will be a cozart and struggle with field vision. But I’d rather sit and watch to see if he progresses then the alternative.
Only problem with that philosophy is that isn’t what the coaching has said their goal is though. They’ve been implying their goal to win now in which case Jalon Daniels isn’t the best QB to reach that goal. Analytics say MacVittie is the best QB KU has right now when healthy. Jalon Dainels has QBR of 22 right now while MacVittie has a QBR of 33. Neither number is very good since 50 is average.
Jon Daniels does have a cannon for an arm, by far the strongest of any of the 3 in the mix to start right now. That doesn’t address that Daniels is also the least accurate of the three. I lost track of how many overthrows Daniels had last night. The analyst, who was a former QB, also spent some time pointing out how Daniels lack of touch and placement on short passes that prevented his receivers from having a chance to break plays open because they had to stop or ow down to adjust to Daniels throws which gave defenders a chance to stop the receivers then and there.
Daniels arm strength also isn’t that relevant this year because the OLine isn’t good enough to give receivers a chance to get deep. KU needs a QB who is accurate on short and intermediate passes to help open up the running game and Jalon Daniels lacks the touch to make those throws.
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@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I’ve claimed is he’s better than Jalon Daniels which isn’t saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he’s the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn’t sunk in for you yet.
The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.
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@jayballer67 And as for offers MacVittie had coming out of Juco, I guess Vanderbilt is no longer a P5.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I’ve claimed is he’s better than Jalon Daniels which isn’t saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he’s the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn’t sunk in for you yet.
The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.
didn’t I say I’m done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -
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@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I’ve claimed is he’s better than Jalon Daniels which isn’t saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he’s the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn’t sunk in for you yet.
The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.
didn’t I say I’m done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -
You say you’re done a lot, but keep responding so apparently you’re not done, at least based on your actions. You said you were done posting at least 3 times last night to stuff not even related to anything I said yet you kept coming back and posting more. I also never said I was done so unless someone is forcing you to keep responding, that sounds like it’s you’re own problem and you can’t stop yourself from responding.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I’ve claimed is he’s better than Jalon Daniels which isn’t saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he’s the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn’t sunk in for you yet.
The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.
didn’t I say I’m done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -
You say you’re done a lot, but keep responding so apparently you’re not done, at least based on your actions. You said you were done posting at least 3 times last night to stuff not even related to anything I said yet you kept coming back and posting more. I also never said I was done so unless someone is forcing you to keep responding, that sounds like it’s you’re own problem and you can’t stop yourself from responding.
see you just felt the need to respond AGAIN RIGHT - -roflmmfao - -you wear me out OK you win umm Coach ? - I’m done no wait what ? lmao - ok so now I’m telling you I’m done so let it go - do you need for me to slow it down for you so you can comprehend - -DO NOT RESPOND TO MY LAAST RESPONSE
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@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 18 Point Dogs to the Bears:
@jayballer67 So people employed by JTV, which is part of Kansas Athletics, are going to give unbiased and neutral opinions about Kansas football?
This is just some of the snippets from Les’s post game conference last night and they don’t really sound like an endorsement of Daniels going forward.
“While Miles stated during his postgame video press conference he wasn’t “displeased” with Daniels “in any way,” KU’s head coach didn’t commit to starting the freshman again next week…”
Curious phrasing even for Les in regards to how Daniels played last night. There’s a lot of choices there to express satisfaction with someone’s play and Les didn’t exactly come across like Dainels earned the job going forward.
“Miles said MacVittie wasn’t actually available for the Big 12 opener in Waco, Texas…”
“Thomas wasn’t healthy at this point,” Miles admitted afterward, though the coach had said during the week leading up to the game he expected KU’s senior QB to be available and see the field.
Sounds like the staff expected MacVittie to be ready, but he still isn’t and since no details were given as to what MacVittie’s actual injury is, speculation is there is there at this point as to the exact nature of the injury.
The post game press conference paints more of a picture of Miles and Dearmon being forced into playing Daniels because MacVittie was still too banged up to play last night.
But what do I know, I’m not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas Athletics to express opinions about Kansas football. I’m just a guy that’s been involved in playing/coaching football for the better part of 15 years of my life.
Jalon Daniels is not a P5 caliber QB. It doesn’t strike you as odd that a supposed 3* recruit from one the the top 5 recruiting areas nationally in the greater Los Angeles area can’t even get a scholarship offer from a Mountain West team, let alone a P12 program despite being in their backyards? That’s telling of what local scouts thought of his talent.
There’s a reason why after all of the practices leading up to the CC games, Miles and Dearmon had evaluated Daniels as being the third best option. I think Daniels is abetter option than Miles Kendrick, but that’s not saying much because I doubt Kendrick is still in a KU uniform next season with Easters coming in.
It’d be one thing if Les and/or Dearmon were out saying that Daniels was the future at QB and they were looking towards developing the future, but that’s not the message being sent by Miles. The message we got last night was Miles was expecting MacVittie to be healthy enough to play last night, but wasn’t and was forced to play a true freshman at QB who isn’t ready to play big snaps yet.
well get ready sparky , cause your going to see a WHOLE LOT more of that freshman QB who isn’t ready to take snaps. - oh ya and thanks for the info but I hear Les post game and he was satisified,
Ya your right your not a former Kansas football player getting paid by Kansas athletics - GOD can work miracles lol , - - those same former football players you trying to say is biased - -could be saying the same biased things about MacVittie but guess what - - they didn’t hmmmmm, wonder why still the same amount of money - -you think Daniels might be paying them off to have them talk positive about him ? - - ya that’s it.
gotcha your the only person tha’ts been involved in football Coaching and play football lmao - - - you are so dam funny it’s pathetic
MacVittle just swarmed with P-5 offers right? - -please list all his Colleges at the P-5 that wanted him canya - -impressive list I’m sure & he was soo dam sweet he transferred out to a Juco and still couldn’t do crap right? - -you got the guys mixed up - - MacVittie sure the hell is no P-5 QB.
But you wearing me out don’t have time to keep talking with a wall so now this is going to close as I don’t want to drag this out and have people saying we need to stop - -so we agree and stop. You have your view and others will have theirs - -COACH , have a great day. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Please tell me where the hell I said MacVittie was a great QB? All I’ve claimed is he’s better than Jalon Daniels which isn’t saying much. The JTV guys talked about Daniels because he’s the one who played last night because MacVittie was still injured in case that fact still hasn’t sunk in for you yet.
The actual numbers that rate QB still same the same thing they said before the game, Thomas MacVittie is the better QB over Jalon Daniels. Les Miles was pretty much asked point blank of Jalon Daniels would be the starter going forward and basically gave an answer that strongly implied that MacVittie would be back under center once MacVittie gets healthy.
didn’t I say I’m done with this - -do you have a reading comprehension problem? - -
You say you’re done a lot, but keep responding so apparently you’re not done, at least based on your actions. You said you were done posting at least 3 times last night to stuff not even related to anything I said yet you kept coming back and posting more. I also never said I was done so unless someone is forcing you to keep responding, that sounds like it’s you’re own problem and you can’t stop yourself from responding.
see you just felt the need to respond AGAIN RIGHT - -roflmmfao - -you wear me out OK you win umm Coach ? - I’m done no wait what ? lmao - ok so now I’m telling you I’m done so let it go - do you need for me to slow it down for you so you can comprehend - -DO NOT RESPOND TO MY LAAST RESPONSE
Nobody is forcing you to respond to my posts except yourself. If you truly want to be done, then just stop responding instead of saying you’re done, but keep responding to me. If you’re going to keep responding after you say you’re done, I’m going to keep responding and calling out your own hypocrisy. Are you capable of doing what you say you’re going to do, or are you going to keep responding to me and I keep doing what I’m telling you I’m going to do?
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My guess for the rest of the season - we get outscored 425-67. Not a win in sight.
