Kansas commit LaGerald Vick is quickly becoming one of the top SG's in the nation!
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JayhawkSlant @JayhawkSlant · 3h3 hours ago
VIDEO: LaGerald Vick talks in detail about choosing #KU, reclassifying & much more https://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1769360 … #kubball
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Krysten @KP_Rivals · 5h5 hours ago
#Kansas commit LaGerald Vick says he wants to play college ball as soon as possible. Looking to reclassify to 2015 http://rvls.co/1esRlle
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@Statmachine Good get Vick on campus. If he’s as good as we all hope he won’t be a four year guy so he just as well play a year of college ball over HS. If he’s not the guy we hope for he’ll need a year of practice in the system before he can be a usable player anyway.
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- I don’t think I said anywhere that speed and quickness are the same thing.
- Yes, if you’re quick, you can beat guys off the bounce, but no, it’s not the only way to get the job done. Look at guys like Paul Pierce or Joe Jackson since either of them started playing for the Nets (and subsequently the Wizards in Pierce’s case). Neither of those guys qualifies as being quick by NBA standards at this point, but both of them are capable of getting free to score. Or, if you want some playing at the D-1 level, here’s an embarrassing clip of Will Spradling crossing over Joel Embiid:
Spradling isn’t a quick player, certainly not as quick as Vick, let alone Embiid, but he still manages to get to the rim. It’s called the old man game and it’s a vanishing art among the young, elite preps. Never the less, it’s a valuable skill set and one that tends to translate quite well, especially when the athletic advantage elite players have in HS evaporates at the next level. And, most importantly, it allows Pierce to continue to collect a pay check.
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Phog Fanatics @Phog_Fanatics · 1h1 hour ago
Bill Self says that LaGerald Vick has completed all necessary work and will likely be reclassifying to join this year’s recruiting class.
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@Statmachine Boy I hope Self didn’t say that … that’s a recruiting violation!
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Kansas Jayhawk Fans @FansOfKU · 56m56 minutes ago
LaGerald Vick is expected to reclassify to the 2015 class this week #kubball
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Vick reclassifying sets up a perfect situation for Vick and Kansas. To get playing time this season, he has to beat out either Svi or Greene. I don’t see him beating out Svi. Greene is vulnerable, but it is still unlikely that Vick overtakes him this season (but for a redshirt if Greene doesn’t heal). As the 6th guy, he an be in a perfect spot to contribute in 2016-17, and he provides excellent insurance for our rotation this season.
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LaGerald Vick @Vicklovekicks · 4m4 minutes ago
Thank God for Another day! Blessed to be a JayHawk!
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@HighEliteMajor I know that Vick will probably not take a huge chunk of minutes from our current rotation BUT do you still believe that he is not a quality player? You had posted this somewhere else “(Mack, Vick, Eubanks) None of these guys are that quality.” I am not trying to be condescending BUT I am wondering if you were down on Vick because of his low ranking initially? I see you are stoked to have him for depth but is that all? I have to admit that I was concerned that he could be another Anrio Adams or Milton Doyle. Last minute signing like every year when we have scholarships left. Now that his ranking has exploded there is a lot more excitement revolving around his reclassification me included. I mean I was excited before BUT not as much as I have been since this weekend where he dominated the class of 2016!
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I think there is a great chance Vick can contribute to our team THIS year! I’m not going out on a limb and jumping on the hype bandwagon until I see him dribble a ball in D1. But if you look at last year, we ran into major problems producing enough points. And often one big area where we missed scoring was from the 2. Wayne slumped for most of the year.
Whether or not Vick can EFFICIENTLY translate his offense to D1 in a few months is yet to be seen. But the bar isn’t really set too high if we have another year where we have problems generating offense from the 2. Greene and Svi may present a high obstacle for Vick… but they haven’t proven themselves yet either. Greene has proven he can hit spot up 3s… but he has to show more than that. I’ve still got to see Svi properly fight through high ball screens to even consider him as a guy who might earn PT.
What I really hope is that Self shortens Wayne’s leash this year. We just can’t afford another year of slump from the 2. Wayne seems to play much better when stimulated. He played great when his dad sat behind the bench. That isn’t going to happen every game, but surely we can find a way to motivate him to play inspired basketball.
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Graham and Mason’s rankings shot up when HCBS was on their tail to sign with KU. Both turned out to be really nice Freshmen. Both averaged 5pts and 2 assists. Does anyone think Vick will average those kind of numbers playing 16-17 minutes as a Freshman?
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@Statmachine Yes, I was more skeptical of his ability to contribute based on his low ranking. In seeing the videos, I was perhaps more impressed with Eubanks – for whatever the videos were worth.
Now that Vick is top 50, that’s better evidence to me that his long term impact will be greater, and that it is more likely that he will have a higher ceiling. So that certainly adjusts my overall opinion for the better. From a marginal kid to a the perfect ranking range.
Until I really see a guy play, it’s hard to make an independent judgment. A guy like Embiid was an exception to that as the videos showed his high, high skill level.
However, I do think it very unlikely that he can displace anyone of the five guys in our perimeter rotation this season. And given that Self isn’t going to go with six perimeter guys after the first month or so, I think this is a learning season for Vick.
If we accept that Self will play no more that five perimeter guys regularly, as history has shown, who does he displace? I think Greene is the only possibility.
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@HighEliteMajor said:
However, I do think it very unlikely that he can displace anyone of the five guys in our perimeter rotation this season. And given that Self isn’t going to go with six perimeter guys after the first month or so, I think this is a learning season for Vick.
If we accept that Self will play no more that five perimeter guys regularly, as history has shown, who does he displace? I think Greene is the only possibility.
Even if he averages a double double this summer in the WUG? Hypothetically of course?
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@Statmachine Well, that might be more evidence … right? It would be a nice dilemma. He’s likely going to be the 5th guy at the WUGs, don’t you suppose? New guy. Lots to learn. And don’t forget, the system is oh so complicated.
You seem giddy.
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We could actually put 5 guards on the floor.
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@drgnslayr I hope Wayne’s leash is shortened. I think it will be. I think we did see that a bit last season. Self didn’t have the guts to pull the trigger many times, but I don’t fault that a lot because he was showing faith in the guy that he thinks is the better player.
But I think Wayne is staged for an excellent season. The leash will be irrelevant. Of course, feel free to remind me of the error of my ways when he disappears for 3/4 of the game and can’t make a layup. I have great faith in Wayne and a lot of optimism that this will be his season.
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I agree… the stage is set for Wayne showing up this year. My biggest concern is that the spotlight is going to hit him too bright. I’m thinking if he shows some game early the media is going to feast on that and I hope Wayne can handle the spotlight. I get the feeling he is a guy that likes to hang below the radar.
Really, our hopes should be that Vick does have a year for learning and watching. If that is the case, then others before him should be stepping up. We all have hopes in guys like Greene and Svi.
I’m just glad we have another option at the 2, especially in the scoring department and a guy with drive potential. I felt like that was an area we sorely missed last year. At times Graham stepped in and penetrated, and he isn’t the most athletic guy for the job, but we need guys willing to mix it up and create something more than the pass around the key and hope the defense doesn’t flex properly.
I’m always excited when a guy comes to Kansas with a reputation for driving the ball. And even more so when he shows the basketball wisdom of knowing how to pull up for easy mid range jumpers.
I know we can be tricked a bit from watching videos. But I do see a big lift in Vick’s game on the recent release. Starting to look less like a boy and more like a man.
I hope he stays healthy enough to expose what he can really develop into.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 He looks like a cheetah compared to Selden, Greene, or Svi. I don’t know where you’re getting the guy isn’t quick. The guys I listed ( Wayne, Greene, Svi) look like tortoises compared to him.
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@HighEliteMajor said:
You seem giddy.
I AM! We got a borderline 5 star recruit in the bottom of the 9th (or the 4th quarter)! Its like Christmas here in Statmachine land!
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@Statmachine and he is not an OAD so we got him for a few years!
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@KUSTEVE Ha, well said. I was thinking along the same lines. “Cheetah,” or maybe to avoid accidental implications, “Jack Rabbit” Vick.
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Michael Lickteig @mhlickteig · 39m39 minutes ago
#kubball LaGerald Vick seems to be a real find this late in the game. If he reclassifies, he could add some zip to the KU offense at times.
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Jordan Rowan @J_Row4 · 4h4 hours ago
LaGerald Vick reclassifying to the class of 15 would be huge for KU. Getting a very versatile scorer who would certainly make a huge impact
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@KUSTEVE If you’re talking Wayne Selden today, absolutely. If you’re talking HS Wayne Selden pre knee injury, that Wayne Selden blows Vick away as far as athleticism and quickness go.
None of three you listed are known for their ability to blow by people off the dribble. Greene is a shooter, Svi uses his size to his advantage to shoot over people, and Selden is learning new skills because playing with a bad knee as a freshman cost him a lot of his quickness on the court. Comparing Vick’s quickness to three guys are aren’t known for that skill doesn’t make Vick quick compared to other D1 players, just quicker than a guy who’s had knee surgery and a couple of guys known as shooters.
Vick will be a good player for KU, he’s just not likely going to be the superstar that some people hyping him up as and others read those statements and get goo goo eyed over.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Ahhh…so, he’s faster than the guys we have at the 2/3, but he’s really not fast enough for Div 1. Got ya. So, what does that say about our athletes at the 2/3?
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I think most of us have bitten on the hype bullet before. Watching clips and catching hype comments said.
I’m at least glad that most of the hype on Vick is coming from “basketball analysts” instead of just his AAU or HS coach. Those guys always over-hype their players.
I think we should be focusing on the idea that he can score off the dribble, something we’ve been having problems with at the 2. Whether or not he can do it in his freshman year in D1 remains to be seen. I hope he can have at least a certain level of execution by spring. Emphasis on “hope.”
Perhaps Wayne steps up and scores better off the dribble this year. Hopefully, he is working on tightening up his handles this summer (amongst other things).
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@drgnslayr agreed. Very hopeful that the driving creativity on display in his clips translates to D-1.
Tyshawn - 6’4 177 (at NBA combine 2012). LeGerald - 6’4 180 (supposedly).
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@KUSTEVE Thanks for telling me “other” really means “all” now. Try arguing what my post really says instead what you want it to say.
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He will need to put on some weight. I saw Tyshawn at a book signing in Overland Park and I was shocked on how skinny he was.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I wasn’t trying to be obtuse - I simply reacted to your initial assessment of a lack of quickness. This sounds like the blind men describing the elephant story- all see something different. If I was less than accurate, my apologies. i have read the debbie downers on KUSPORTS pick this guy apart, and was simply reacting to your comment.So, no harm intended to you.
Hope you didn’t get flooded out too badly during the rains. I have relatives all over the state who have been begging for rain, and now they can’t wait for it to go away.
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Rock Chalk News @rockchalk_news · 17h17 hours ago
LaGerald Vick @Vicklovekicks to announce his decision on reclassifying Monday. Support this young man no matter what he decides. #Jayhawks
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WUG, Summer practice, Hudy, give Vick a big edge for picking up in understanding what will be required of him on both Offense and Defense. Bonding with his new buddies in Korea will help everyone. Let him room with Tyler like Wiggins did.
