KC & Chitown Fight Nite



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Hmmmm, fond memories of that Holiday Inn. But that’s a long time ago. 😉



  • @brooksmd afraid to ask, we last stayed there when my son played state basketball there.



  • @Crimsonorblue22

    Making me homesick. I actually hate that stadium. The old stadium was a baseball palace that was fun for everyone who went there. The only guy who didn’t like it was the owner. He said not long after it opened that there’s not a bad seat in the house. Well, the first time I was there I sat in the upper deck way out by the foul pole. We were so high up in the sky that you really had no reliable perspective on batted balls. A few years back they cut off the top 8 rows of the ballpark because fans hated it up there so much.

    To add insult to injury they faced the stadium to the south side, which at the time was dominated by the worlds largest housing project, the Robert Taylor homes. When they were building the place they were actually finding bullet holes in the upper deck seats! They should have faced it towards downtown which isn’t far away and the view would have been glorious. I still love the Sox, but the stadium is still a sore spot!

    Also interestingly the year after Sox park opened, Camden Yards opened. It was spectacular. Somehow the same architectural firm designed both places.

    If they had faced it downtown this is the view that fans would have had, which actually comes from the ramps on the north side of the stadium.

    sox park view.jpg



  • @VoyagingJayhawk I didn’t see your post until after I read yours. I think your gramps and I must have talked!



  • @VoyagingJayhawk

    My first ball game was in old Yankee stadium, the real house that Ruth built. I was just a kid, but remember it just like Billy Crystal did in City Slickers.



  • Just reported, the continuation of last nights game and todays regularly scheduled game cancelled due to rain in the rainy city. Bummer.



  • Sooooo why was it stupid for Sale to go to the KC locker room and say sorry?



  • @wissoxfan83 Wow, that was the same firm? I had no idea. Camden Yards is a sweet ballpark. Feels new and old all at once, they nailed it with that one. You would think a firm of professional architects could have came up with a stadium that was more Comiskey-esque and takes advantage of those views of Chicago.



  • @VoyagingJayhawk I’ve had that regret for 25 years of boring Comiskey II.



  • I still cherish my first and only visit to old Comiskey. A night game with temps in the 30s…nearly froze my butt off. Couldn’t have been more than 8 or 9 thousand in the park Loved the character of the place, though. Ozzie Guillen knocked in the winning run in the 9th, so everybody went home happy.



  • @VoyagingJayhawk

    The architects come up with several concepts but the final look is selected uniquely by the owner, i.e. the guys that pays the bill…can’t really blame the architects. The architectural firm that designed both stadiums, HOK (they have new name now), is considered one of the top if not the top sports venues architectural firms in the country.



  • @wissoxfan83 I mean they couldn’t even incorporate the old Comiskey green? Or the distinctive arches? Maybe they do have the arches but I’ve never noticed them so they must lack the ‘distinctive’ qualities of the old park. Oh well, lets get you thinking positively, you HAVE seen a world championship there!

    @JayHawkFanToo I assumed that’s about how it worked. There are ballparks that were cradles of the game and I’ve never understood why some clubs were so willing to tear down those gems of ballparks and incorporate few if any of the characteristics of their old home. I haven’t been yet but of the pictures I’ve seen I’ve thought they did a great job with CitiField, the Mets new home. They used aspects of the legendary Ebbets Field and Polo Grounds.



  • @VoyagingJayhawk

    Pure and simple, MONEY. The older stadiums don’t have all the huge money making corporate suits or the extended capacity or the expensive concessions or…well, you get the point…



  • @VoyagingJayhawk

    The championship was great obviously and totally unexpected. I’ve been a Sox fan since the late 1970’s and really, other than 1983 (hence my screen name) it’s just never been in my mind that the Sox would ever win a world series.



  • @wissoxfan83 As a Royals fan I can certainly identify with the feeling. Last year was so unexpected and special I flew home just to revel in it, there was no way I was going to miss it. And certainly we both can share in a mutual hatred for the Cubs. You know, I never had any feelings one way or the other for the Cubs until the Steve Bartman incident. After the way the Cub fans treated him that night in Wrigley and then for months afterwards, I pray they never get a sniff of another championship. They are not cursed by a goat, they are cursed by the fact that their last championship in 1908 was a total fluke. The New York Giants were the legitimate champions and if you don’t know the story behind the NL pennant race that year I recommend reading about it. It is the kind of story only baseball in it’s infancy could have produced.



  • @VoyagingJayhawk Hey, don’t talk bad about my Cubbies. I loved both of the Chi-town teams. The hilite of my Little League career at Great Lakes NTC was playing short for the Sox and wearing #11. Fox and Aparicio, one of the finest keystone combo’s ever.



  • @wissoxfan83 Some buddies and I started 'collecting stadiums" after college. Sometimes togetther -sometimes during biz trips alone. I will never forget going to see the White Sox playing in their new stadium and being so turned off by the concrete and blue paint of the metal rails.

    The only other place I would rate uglier (That I saw first hand - 1980 -to 2000 visits) would be the Vet in Philly.

    Sorry voyager. I meant the old vet was ugly-never saw the new vet- and the new white sox effort missed the mark.



  • @JayhawkRock78 Ouch! Have you been to the Phillies new ballpark, Citizens Bank? Or whatever giant corporation pays the bill now. Not a classic, but a nice place to watch a game. Sat in the nose bleeds behind home plate and had a nice view of the park and the Philly skyline.



  • @VoyagingJayhawk

    I cheered for the Flubs through 1984 and their near championship run that year. But I got turned off by the Cub fans crawling out of the woodwork and driving up ticket prices there and really ruining the Wrigley experience. Before that season baseball at Wrigley was casual, quaint, 10 or 15 thousand of you and your friends showing up. No sellouts, no harry singing. Just baseball in a great park.



  • @wissoxfan83 I can still hear Jack Brickhouse yelling “hey, hey” when Mr Cub would park one over the left field wall. Ernie Banks, one of the all time greats who never got to play in a WS. “It’s a beautiful day for a ballgame. Let’s play two.” Back when players played. When starters went 9 innings and no such thing as early, middle, late and closers. Bunch of wussies today wearing head socks when the temp is in the 40’s. Weenies!!!



  • @brooksmd

    I remember a premature ‘hey hey’ where he had to add ‘it’s not a homerun’ after the hey hey!



  • @wissoxfan83 Must’ve happened after we left GLNTC.



  • @wissoxfan83 2 out of 3 ain’t bad 👍 Go Sox!



  • @MoonwalkMafia You a Sox fan?



  • @wissoxfan83 I am.



  • @MoonwalkMafia @wissoxfan83 I’m not liking these numbers!



  • @MoonwalkMafia

    The teams investment in talent is starting to pay off a little. 8-5 since the poor start.



  • @wissoxfan83 Quintana will settle down, and this Rodon kid is supposed to be the real deal, but the rotation is pretty bad from top to bottom right now. Micah Johnson is supposed to be a good 2B with a lot of speed, but we really only have potential to go on. Finishing .500 would be a remarkable achievement for this team IMO.



  • @MoonwalkMafia

    Oh I disagree. I think the rotation will be strong with Quintana, Sale and Samardzjia. Danks provides enough and Noesi will have some good starts and bad. Rodon looks like he’ll be in the pen for a while. I will be disappointed if they’re only at .500. I think 10-15 over .500 is possible.



  • @wissoxfan83 How could I forget the Shark. True. The Sox always get better as the weather warms up, so hopefully they’ll start manufacturing runs more efficiently as the calendar turns.


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