NOW WE KNOW WHY THEY CALL HIM SNACKS?
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2-week suspension:
Kansas University men’s basketball assistant coach Jerrance Howard will serve a two-week suspension from all team activities as punishment for a July 2014 arrest for possession of marijuana, KU coach Bill Self announced Thursday afternoon. The suspension is effective immediately. – KUSports.com
Let the debate ensue
(in a civil way, of course… nods to @CivilHawk )
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@bskeet Fair enough.
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I know that is part of it… but you don’t think the AMA gives all those millions to Washington for the heck of it, do you? Costs are high because everyone involved in the process goes for full profit. Insurance companies, lawyers, hospitals, doctors (and their groups), pharma.
Capitalism is built on profiteering. I’m not against that. But who is in Washington lobbying for the consumer? Right… no one.
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The ABA makes the AMA look like pikers, plus most members of congress are lawyers in the first place.
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@bskeet said:
2-week suspension:
Kansas University men’s basketball assistant coach Jerrance Howard will serve a two-week suspension from all team activities as punishment for a July 2014 arrest for possession of marijuana, KU coach Bill Self announced Thursday afternoon. The suspension is effective immediately. – KUSports.com
Let the debate ensue
(in a civil way, of course… nods to @CivilHawk )I say, Fair!
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My first thought, before I got to the bottom of the thread was that JH should be let go for not telling his employer about the offense. If he had told them, there should have been a stiff penalty. You can’t punish the kids for testing positive without severely penalizing a coach that does the equivalent. As I thought more about it, I thought about how we are a 2nd chance society…I agreed with the comment above about how he should be proactive and enter some type of rehab. Then, I got to the bottom and read that he has been suspended. That doesn’t mean he won’t ultimately be let go, but I think that won’t happen. I think I am OK with that given other transgressions that have occurred and how others have been given 2nd chances. I know that not telling your employer takes it to another level, so I am conflicted.
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HR person here. Pretty certain that KU has dealt with similar employee issues in the past. Organizations have to deal out the same discipline to similar policy breakers regardless of their position. That said , Self as his manager can deliver his own unique thrashing. Oops should have typed message to JH.
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@Paloma What KU policy, if any, did he break? None of this occurred on campus.
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@drgnslayr First I’m glad to hear you’re a capitalist. Second, as my wife has worked as a chemo nurse over 20 years in both private practice and hospital, I’m well aware of horrors and the costs of chemo. I also know that while working in private practice she assisted patients in working with companies to get reduced charges for their treatments. I also know what she pays for malpractice insurance not only when she worked in private practice but even now in a hospital setting. If we didn’t have the litigation threat like many countries, we could bring drugs straight to market and sell them over the counter.
I’m sorry for your family experience with cancer and unfortunately most of us have had to deal with this terrible disease. All the best my friend.
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Am sure KU has a code of conduct that employees have to suffer thru annual training on. Probably has bullets on professional, truthful behavior and requires employees’ signature. Does not matter where the unacceptable behavior occurred–especially in this situation since he’s embarrassed the school along with himself and family. It’s easy to directly connect this issue to damaging his performance as well. Easy discipline decision.
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@JayHawkFanToo I’d give ya 100 thumbs up if I knew where to get them. That’s because we have an entire generation that is totally comfortable to live off of someone else’s hard work & sit at home to watch Judge Joe, Dr Phil & Oprah on self help TV. In other words they are just too friggin lazy to get off their ass. JMO
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@Paloma KU employees do not have annual training on code of conduct. I thought you worked at KU and had insight into some specific policy that JH violated.
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Thanks… We lost my mother-in-law to breast cancer. It was tough in all areas… emotional and financial. I don’t want to single out anything in particular… I just wish there was someone lobbying for us. I appreciate the efforts of your wife! Through all of this we met many people in the health industry that was very kind and as helpful as they possibly could be.
I know you are right on the money!
Sorry for venting this out in here.
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Checkout the Handbook for Faculty and other Unclassified Staff --section on committing an act that involves such moral turpitude as to render the faculty member unfit for his position. Not a KU employee but all organizations have behavior policies/standards.
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This gives new meaning to “Beware of the Phog”
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@wissoxfan83 good one!
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@wissoxfan83 PHOF !!
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No problem. I have had relatives that had cancer and I know how expensive it can be. My sister in law had the bone marrow transplant procedure at Barnes-Jewish Hospital in St. Louis, one of the very few places that will do it, and I know the bill for the stay was around $300K. Fortunately she worked for the Social Security Administration and her insurance plan covered just about all of it. She was cancer free for close to 10 years and then it came back and she was gone in a couple of months. Pretty sad.
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2 week suspension. Well, we might not see the rest of the story until fall…if, indeed, there will be further maneuvering. The thing that bothers me perhaps most: Has Snacks hidden other illegal actions from his head coach? Perhaps recruiting entanglements? This hoops program is colossal; much grander than the judgments or misjudgments of those currently placed in charge of maintaining its face and continued well being. The program has been burdened with a few player blemishes during the Self Years, but no more than on any other topflight Div. 1 campus, and fewer than most schools, it appears. (Heck, just take a look across the Kaw, current turmoil at MizZoo!) But a compound mistake by a second or third year assistant? YIKES! The World of Hoops is broad and expansive. Lotsa sites for Snacks to land with uncluttered runways; sites w/o the reputation or historical significance of Kansas Basketball. I understand that it is in timely best interest of Bill Self, the athletic dept. and the university to move quickly in an attempt to leap beyond this breaking news. Gonna be interesting, watching for further crescendo or denouement. I will be surprised if Snacks is still in Lawrence by June 2016. But for his longstanding relationship with Bill Self, he has stepped close to filling J.R. Giddens’ dusty Adidas sneakers.
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Interesting. I was visiting with a friend that works in HR and she indicated that depending on how his contract is written and who the contract is with, KU/AD might not be able to fire him…even if they wanted to. If he was fired, he could sue the KU/AD under the ADA since drug dependency can now be consider a “disability” and KU’s only recourse would b to send him to rehab (at KU’s expense. of curse) a few times before he can be fired…whatever happened to personal responsibility? It would certainty explain the relatively light punishment; certainly much cheaper than the alternative plus it gets the issue off the front pages and spares the program from further embarrassment.
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@JayHawkFanToo Personal responsibility walked out the door when political correctness walked in.
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Regardless what the future brings I wish him the best.
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@brooksmd The idealistic, liberally anointed, politically correct world we now live in (Federal Govt) is now allowing anyone with a pet- examples: dog, cat, kangaroo (where legal), to register said pet as a service animal for the life of the animal for a $75.00 fee, qualifying as an emotional (therapy) support service animal. A US Govt ID is issued & said pet can accompany the owner anywhere in the US of A. Kinda like the hormone therapy thing you mentioned the other day-mind boggling to those citizens who try to be responsible & accountable, and work & pay taxes. The animal can fly, accompany owner to restaurants, go to court, ball games, whatever & wherever. Makes ya proud to be a taxpayer doesn’t it? Damn chills are starting to run up & down my wallet most every time I hear the Star Spangled Banner anymore. (Sarcasm).
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@globaljaybird I did hear a story about a pot bellied pig on an airplane, pooped on the floor!! Gross! It was a service pet! She had papers from a dr. I always wanted to see if I could pass my golden off as a guide dog to get in somewhere. I didn’t realize it was rude. Anyway I never did it.
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@globaljaybird I won’t go into detail, but read what the head of the IRS said could happen with the issuance of SSN’s as part of O’s amnesty program. How many billions that will cost not to mention the projected $22 billion for college loan forgiveness. I’ll have to come out of retirement so I can afford the taxes to pay my fair share. I’m considering renouncing my citizenship, leave the country and then sneak back in across the southern border to get in on all those freebies.
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@brooksmd don’t fuel his fire!!
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@Crimsonorblue22 That wasn’t one of those cute little pot bellied pigs. It was a frickin’ pot bellied hog. Monkeys, cats, and even miniature horses qualify as “emotional support” animals. Somebody boards a plane I’m on with a frickin’ horse, I’m getting off. Same with a pig.
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@brooksmd I did know there was a difference!! I’m w/you!!
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@brooksmd A guy showed me his Fed ID for his service dog the other day-a pit bull, & told me that there was no Dr’s recommendation or medical requirement whatso ever involved in the process. I’ve no problem with the breed, or any breed for that matter, but now the dog is legal anywhere he goes-with the stroke of a pen & 75 bucks. What the H is this country coming too? If you have excellent, employer paid healthcare under the AHCA, you may have to claim it as a taxable benefit as a “Cadillac Healthcare Plan” & may be subject to a FORTY % Tax on said benefit !! Google it to see if you will get nailed. That’s a huge reason why I took early retirement. Taxable income was going up as per paid healthcare by appx 23K per year without one additional penny on the check, but taxes were going to go up about $8500 per year anyway.
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@globaljaybird so if it’s not medical why can he have it? Can I have one? I wouldn’t have a pit, afraid of them!!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Doesn’t take much to rattle my cage about taxes !!
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I know! I tried to stop him!!
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@Crimsonorblue22 He said there was no Dr involved in the process. You download a PDF, fill out the form, & pay the $75 bucks, & shazamm-you’re in. The US Govt mails you a service animal ID card describing the animal & you & pics, & states “emotional therapy pet” on the card. I looked at the ID card myself. Also asked if it were counterfeit & answer was no.
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How do you expect everyone to have the biggest flat screen, broadband internet/cable, smart phones if we don’t pay our fair share?
I kept my health ins when I retired and I pay almost $500/mo for it. Guess I’ll find out when I do my taxes if it qualifies as a “cadillac” or not. Only did it to cover my wife as her employer healthcare ins sucks.
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Boy this thread certainly has meandered from topic to topic.
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@brooksmd Let’s talk about tattoos. Or our favorite songs. Or our favorite songs about tattoos…
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@brooksmd Some of us old people tend to ramble angrily while we wander. When we have to drop bread crumbs to get back home we’ll really be in deep crap. Service dogs will be eatin the crumbs !!
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@nuleafjhawk How bout scars leaf ?- Scars are tattoos with stories .
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@globaljaybird but what is the purpose, to take the dog anywhere? Sorry!
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Or the Royals pitching staff for this year now that Shields has bailed.
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@nuleafjhawk do it!
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@nuleafjhawk Favorite song = Doo-Wop
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@Crimsonorblue22 (don’t tell anyone - I just finished phase 2 of 3 of my 3rd tattoo today. I am So digging it…)
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I’m pretty sure we are the only 4 people on here that are reading this and enjoying it!
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@Crimsonorblue22 But there’s one guest lurking and probably thinking what a bunch of loons.
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Ha… surprise… I’m back! Just bought candy for my sweety’s v-day.
You just voided yourself from being buried in a Jewish cemetery. No tattoos allowed!
I have one hidden tattoo. In my single days I offered women a $1000 if they could find it. I never had to pay out. The benefits were worth every penny! The reason I got it… one drunk night in my youthful days (nights) I was with my crazy biker friends and we ended up in a tattoo parlor and everyone was required to face the needle. I was threatened with a forced facial tattoo if I didn’t comply. This was not in the USA, so the parlor also complied with the threat. I think I can still qualify for a Jewish burial, though I’m not Jewish.
No sweat, bro, I’m a loon, too!
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@brooksmd speak for yourself!! I hope you too are doing something special for your valentine!
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@drgnslayr Well crap. Now I’m really intrigued about your “invisible” tattoo.
But not intrigued enough to look for it !!
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@Crimsonorblue22 In his case absolutely. Many local cites have banned that breed.
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@drgnslayr I remember you telling this story before, so lots of(ladies?) searched you all over? Is that what you are telling us? Jk! If your valentine is 9 months pg, you better throw a massage in too!!
