Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.
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@jayballer73 the important thing, in my opinion, for regular Fox viewers to consider is that the reasons behind the progressive agenda are valid.
We need to ensure the health of our citizens (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need enough wealth to be able to deal with unforseen circumstances without financial ruin (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need healthcare and time off from work that is adequate (see our current predicament).
The financial powers behind the Republican party and Fox news do not want any of these problems addressed. If you don’t agree with Bernie Sanders solutions that does not make these problems go away. But notice no mention of any real solutions to these problems coming from the right.
This is the boiling point.
Consider one man who wants to do something about it and another that wants to pretend the problem doesnt exist (see Trump saying that there are 15 cases and that number is going down 3 weeks ago when this problem could have been contained) and now is showing complete incompetence in handling the issue.
Give me the guy who actually gives a shit about this country and other people.
Bernie Sanders would murder Donald Trump in a debate.
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@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@jayballer73 the important thing, in my opinion, for regular Fox viewers to consider is that the reasons behind the progressive agenda are valid.
We need to ensure the health of our citizens (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need enough wealth to be able to deal with unforseen circumstances without financial ruin (see our current predicament).
Our citizens need healthcare and time off from work that is adequate (see our current predicament).
The financial powers behind the Republican party and Fox news do not want any of these problems addressed. If you don’t agree with Bernie Sanders solutions that does not make these problems go away. But notice no mention of any real solutions to these problems coming from the right.
This is the boiling point.
Consider one man who wants to do something about it and another that wants to pretend the problem doesnt exist (see Trump saying that there are 15 cases and that number is going down 3 weeks ago when this problem could have been contained) and now is showing complete incompetence in handling the issue.
Give me the guy who actually gives a shit about this country and other people.
Bernie Sanders would murder Donald Trump.
Wellif you want as you say the Right man then I guess your not talking about Sanders - -so I guess you need to go and campaign for the right guy
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@jayballer73 actually if you agree that the issues I listed are important right now, I am arguing that these are the exact issues Bernie Sanders has been talking about and focused on for 30 years. Nobody cares more about these issues than Bernie Sanders.
Give me Sanders in the White House and a democratic house and Senate. The House and Senate will be close to Center and a lot will get done.
To clarify, my point is Bernie would murder Trump in a debate right now. In the general, I don’t know. I wish people would realize that the issues raised by progressives are the real issues even if the solutions aren’t as practical as they would like.
We need to strive for the right goals right now.
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@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@jayballer73 actually if you agree that the issues I listed are important right now, I am arguing that these are the exact issues Bernie Sanders has been talking about and focused on for 30 years. Nobody cares more about these issues than Bernie Sanders.
Give me Sanders in the White House and a democratic house and Senate. The House and Senate will be close to Center and a lot will get done.
To clarify, my point is Bernie would murder Trump in a debate right now. In the general, I don’t know. I wish people would realize that the issues raised by progressives are the real issues even if the solutions aren’t as practical as they would like.
We need to strive for the right goals right now.
well if he has been on these for as you say for 30 years then just goes to show people’s faith/and trust in him still hasn’t won a election .Got murdered in his own state in this campaign - Sanders will never be the President to many do not have any trusting him. I am not ties to any affilation, i’m going to stop I’m not getting into Political Bs on our sports site your welcome and entitled to your values and idea’s - as am I an din no way would I ever support Bernie.
I appreciate you man we have talked I’ am more concerned with some other things right now worried about my own daughter and this virus. - You stay safe my friend
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@jayballer73 all good. You stocked up to ride this one out a while?
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Bernie is not a radical. He’s barely left in most of the world.
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@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
Bernie is not a radical. He’s barely left in most of the world.
He’s pretty far left in Scandinavia, the UK, and Germany for sure. Not really anywhere do they consider a wealth tax, no out of pocket health expenses, and phasing out nuclear power good ideas. Germany did the nuclear power thing and killed thousands from additional air pollution. Scandinavia used to be more like what Bernie wanted but they realized fairly quickly it’s basically impossible to pay for and growth slows to a halt. So they decided to high levels of consumption taxation, killed the wealth tax with fire, and reduced taxation on capital to very competitive levels internationally. And now they’re competitive internationally because of that and a significant oil endowment. Bernie is more like the lefties in France where public spending as % of GDP is like 60% and the labor market is so tightly regulated no businesses hire because you can’t legally fire someone without a long, drawn out legal fight. They also have a great nuclear sector, which Bernie wants to end. He’s kind of Jeremy Corbyn in a lot of ways, minus the anti-semitism (though many of Bernie’s high profile surrogates are rabid anti-semites. He’s never been able to surround himself with good people.)
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@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@jayballer73 all good. You stocked up to ride this one out a while?
ya just went and got more water. - -The wife went out to Walmart today just absolutely insane - -Paper Towel , Kleenex - - Toilet paper,GONE - - water - - GONE - - BREAD - -GONE , CHIPS, JUST TOTALLY NUTS - -BIG RUN ON ALL FRESH MEATUN-BELIEVABLE
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Just remember we are electing the leader of the USA, not the world… I’m no Bernie fan, though this is a moment that he can seize… and he clearly sounds more sensible next to Trump… but somewhat in the same way a turd is less dangerous than a toxic waste dump.
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They haven’t talked about the restaurant industry but it’s going to get crushed. Nobody will want someone else preparing their food.
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Just heard a lady from Johnson co juco, in her 50’s, tested positive.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
Just heard a lady from Johnson co juco, in her 50’s, tested positive.
just found out a person in Franklin County tested positive
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Could be us in a week or two. https://twitter.com/racheldonadio/status/1238913213250572288?s=21
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I’m going stir crazy, just today! Not sure I can do this!
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@Crimsonorblue22 we gotchu! Keep posting. I’ll keep up.
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@Crimsonorblue22 thanks for this
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@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@Crimsonorblue22 thanks for this
Good stuff. I had already made the decision to bunker, but man those hospital pics should do it for ANYONE SANE.
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@BShark the words “shortage of ventilators” are helping me stay in!
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The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans.
Good thing we all have access to healthcare and modern medicine now…
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@approxinfinity https://twitter.com/aslavitt/status/1238817274590629888?s=21
Well reading that was depressing, I’m going to bed lol
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It sounds like this thing is getting worse in parts of Europe. Think folks were really quick to say only old folks are at risk. https://twitter.com/stanveuger/status/1239025372290785280?s=21
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@FarmerJayhawk besides the England guy going full derp I think my favorite thing so far is the yellow jackets in France still protesting. Hard no from me to leave my house more than absolutely necessary for at least two months.
The better health one is in the better off you will be with this. I hope this is a wake up call for those that need it.
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@BShark and then there’s this https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1239026641675923456?s=21
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And this I think is not good. https://twitter.com/brookegmcdonald/status/1238986272137502720?s=21
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@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@BShark and then there’s this https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1239026641675923456?s=21
To be fair a lot of GOP governors have done a good job (Charlie Baker in MA, Mike DeWine in OH, and Bill Lee in TN come to mind). I think it’s really bringing out who’s capable of doing more than campaigning.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah just reading more about the corona virus sick leave bill and feeling disappointed that dems allowed the republicans to get an exemption for employers with more than 500 employees which ends up being about half of all workers. And honestly if Super Tuesday were this coming Tuesday I think the dem result might be a little different.
It’s not really a dem v rep thing and leaders all around need to step up right now or step aside.
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@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
@FarmerJayhawk Yeah just reading more about the corona virus sick leave bill and feeling disappointed that dems allowed the republicans to get an exemption for employers with more than 500 employees which ends up being about half of all workers. And honestly if Super Tuesday were this coming Tuesday I think the dem result might be a little different.
It’s not really a dem v rep thing and leaders all around need to step up right now or step aside.
Yeah, that’s what happens when they rush a bill through. Members only got 20 minutes to read it before the vote. No way to run a legislature. They’re going to re-run the bill this weekend because there were significant errors. It’s shocking, I know
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@benshawks08 I’d pass out in that congested mess!
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just following on this dam thing , and it spreading like wild fire. 272 new confirmed cases in less then 6hours. Total confirmed for the United States now is 3,324 cases with 63 deaths - 3 new deaths in this 6 hour time and a long way to go I’m afraid.
I think what is making this more some staggering to this guy is , that I’m just not used to something like this in my lifetime.
I’m just not used to seeing something of this magnitude in this Nation that I love , guess I’ve been lured into a false sense of security. - -Just thought our nation was to good for something like this to happen. - -Another NBA player Confirmed to have it. - -A college Basketball player has been confirmedto have it ,no name - - no school but a College player - -NOT GOOD
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This is why it’s so important to stay home over the last few days and the next 2 weeks at least while still trying to minimize risk after that.
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Thankfully, some senators are trying to show that they can work together and respond quickly to public needs when there is a crisis. Maybe this will jolt more senators into a bipartisan mindset permanently.
Sadly, some “leaders” (local, state and federal) deny there is a crisis and others still want to push agendas. Hopefully, their selfish and irresponsible tweets will not be forgotten in the next election cycle.
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By April 1, we’re all going to know someone who has it. And I don’t mean like Tom Hanks or Rudy G.
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@bskeet not if we stay in Schrödingers box until then. Tests schmests amirite? Let this remain just a rich persons disease… ahh I can’t even be sarcastic, someone might take me seriously.
TRANSLATION: We only know celebrities that have it because only celebrities have tests!
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@approxinfinity That’s a good point…
What I meant is that by April 1, the symptoms will have manifested (we won’t need tests) to those who are infected as of now. The estimate is 60% of the population…
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Guys here is another thing that has come to mind for me on this Corona Virus. They are going to have a huge problem/headache when it comes time for containment. Here is my reason why:
Someone please tell me how can or will they have containment be able to quarantine when the /officials are dealing with ALL the homeless people on the streets and such throughout the US ?
We always want to know who these homeless have come in contact with , HELL the Homeless come in contact with EVERYBODY when their on the streets, then your going to have to find the certain homeless that may have been infected as we know they usually never stay in a certain area very long, you have to try and find when and or where individuals people picked up the infection , the typical who you came into contact with. - How can they identify when your dealing with homeless, I’m not trying to kick at the unfortunate that are o the streets but they could very well become one of the very biggest carriers
You also have to think that a large majority of the homeless probably won’t even get tested/be tested. As you know also a lot of these homeless aren’t actually in the best of Health causing them even more susceptible to the virus/ low immunities, this could very easily become one of the major problems in this whole scenario - -THAT scares me
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@jayballer73 you’re absolutely right and it’s an excellent point.
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To be clear, when officials talk about containment right now, it is not literally to stop the virus. The containment effort is to slow down the contagion and “flatten the curve” so as not to overwhelm the health care system with patients (See Italy right now).
People who get the virus will be infected indefinitely. They may recover from the virus, only to get sick again later.
Anyone who gets infected will likely need to keep their distance from the elderly and at-risk for the foreseeable future.
Sadly, I do not think the homeless population is going to be a “problem” because they are an ‘at-risk’ group already and are likely to succumb. Those who do survive will be a health issue, but really no more than Tom Hanks or a bus driver or basketball player or a politician who comes in contact with many other people every day.
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I saw a couple solicitor ladies going door to door to my neighbors houses today, standing right in the doorframe. I yelled at them “Hey, you guys shouldn’t be soliciting.” I got a cutesey “Oh we’re not solicitiiiing” response.
I said “You’re going door to door. That’s the definition of soliciting. In this time of coronavirus you should be socially distancing. Its the moral thing to do.”
Them : “Ok” (clearly dismissive, like I’m a wingnut)
Me : “You’re like a honey bee going flower to flower infecting the whole neighborhood if you’re sick”
(They talk to each other and hurriedly leave to their car)
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@bskeet said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
To be clear, when officials talk about containment right now, it is not literally to stop the virus. The containment effort is to slow down the contagion and “flatten the curve” so as not to overwhelm the health care system with patients (See Italy right now).
People who get the virus will be infected indefinitely. They may recover from the virus, only to get sick again later.
Anyone who gets infected will likely need to keep their distance from the elderly and at-risk for the foreseeable future.
Sadly, I do not think the homeless population is going to be a “problem” because they are an ‘at-risk’ group already and are likely to succumb. Those who do survive will be a health issue, but really no more than Tom Hanks or a bus driver or basketball player or a politician who comes in contact with many other people every day.
Oh I disa agree they are going to be a very large problem the % of homeless that are infected, walking the streets they will be in such close contact HUGE PROBLEM , true they succumb your right but before that happens there can be major infection - -with them being an at risk group already as you say just makes it a much more dangerous situation with them
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Here’s a great article that uses a set of simulators to illustrate the containment strategy and explain “flattening the curve.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
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@bskeet said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
Here’s a great article that uses a set of simulators to illustrate the containment strategy and explain “flattening the curve.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/
It’s good thing about flattening the curve - -thing is you have to have a starting point to know WHERE it is you need to flatten that curve. This is what’s going to make it so much harder concerning homeless you have no idea where that curve is
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A total of 694 new cases of the virus in just a little over 12 hours today with 73 recoveries and 68 deaths. - these numbers are about to go off the charts when they start all these new testing Tomorrow , the number of cases is just going to explode
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A very important Coronavirus update: https://twitter.com/rexchapman/status/1239367483317981190?s=21
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@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:
A total of 694 new cases of the virus in just a little over 12 hours today with 73 recoveries and 68 deaths. - these numbers are about to go off the charts when they start all these new testing Tomorrow , the number of cases is just going to explode
I just hope people realize that we are about to get the full picture with widespread testing, rather than thinking that the virus has started spreading more rapidly.
We are heading for thousands of new cases on a daily basis once testing is widespread enough. To everyone on the board, try to make sure people around you don’t freak out. Practice safe social distancing, so hopefully the number of serious cases (needing hospitalization and ventilators) stays manageable. We do not want to be in the situation they are in over in Italy, where they are having to make decisions about which patients need a ventilator the most, or which has the best chance to recover if using the ventilator.
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On a less serious note I don’t think many of you are clicking on the link I shared above and I would highly encourage you to do so for a good laugh.
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@benshawks08 Rex is great.
