2020 Recruiting
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BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
@BeddieKU23 You don’t think every coach has told recruits why would you go play for a team that is not going to be able to play in the tournament. I 100% believe it affected the 2019 class and there is no doubt it has affected 2020.
Absolutely its impacted both cycles. I just think the headlines will really scare off any recruits for the fall at minimum now. Could be overreacting here a bit but I’m sure the national chains will pick the story up and everyone will know
Watch the Spiral begin - - and we have seen it Already - -Mc Bride jumpin ship. - -he can use any other excuse - -this NCAA bull shit is exactly why he is out
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What I meant is if the story is picked up by the media and kids see it, it’s going to impact what the kids think about potentially coming to ku
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@BeddieKU23 yeah. It’s happening. ESPN is reporting the KCStar is reporting Kansas has allegations to come. About what you may ask? aargh
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Wichita tv station, Kc blah blah
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@Crimsonorblue22 they should really change their name to be more truthful. KC Missouri Star. - they really enjoy delivering bad news to us!
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dylans said:
@BeddieKU23 Know what?
Edit. Never mind.
Let’s get this over with. !
OK , so let me ask people this - - -stay with me here , let’s say IF - - - again - -IF it did happen to turn out that the NCAA Charged Coach Self with Coach Control - - -where he could be suspended for a year - - IF that turned out - - Do you guys think Self would say Screw it - -and walk away from it? - Resign from KU move on - -Or What? - - -just askin guys that’s all – don’t think it’s that bizarre of a possibility. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 big if but he’ll stick it out and come back strong and pissed.
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Hmm a year off to recruit behind the scenes? (Cough cough Huggins) Lol surely nothing but good could come from that.
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Heard from a very solid source tonight that until the NCAA issue is resolved, expect recruiting to be “brutal.” Name if the game is develop, develop, develop. I get the feeling they’re more concerned about that than any sanctions.
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if we lose Bryce Thompson and Caleb love now,
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I suspect the 2020 recruiting thread … might … slow … down. And we mocked the offer to the JUCO kid. I feel bad now.
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Going to be really interesting to see just how many of these recruits that were coming for late night -NOW actually show up. - - -I have a feeling like has ben said , it’s not gonna be pretty.
There is one thing that stumps me though , I mean dam - - take a look at Arizona AND Louisville these two programs are both smack dab in this mess and really hasn’t effected their recruiting that much at all. - - Hell Ol Stump Sean was/is real close to losing his job - -that program when this is all said and done could STILL be in a pile of warm dog doo and yet , you look at his recruiting and doesn’t seem like he has taken hardly any kind of hit - - not like it’s effecting ours , every time you turn around another recruit is committing there or they are in the conversation for
Look at Louisville - - they have been in Big time trouble - - - has it really effected their recruiting like it seems to ours ? - - -don’t think so - - I think there are some schools really just bashing the hell out of us about all this - -still makes me think also that it might be time to do some house cleaning , bring in new blood on the recruiting staff, possibly some of these guys have become stale.
Something BESIDES this crap just isn’t adding up. With the success this program has had in recent past , there is just no way our recruiting should be this sucky bad - even with this NCAA BS - -I smell something and it’s not good. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 It’s definitely going to get rough but then it will get better. Louisville is the perfect example. They got hammered and recovered.
This current class is not going to have any star appeal.
Edit: Louisville didn’t even have a recruiting class in 2018? Is that correct? Showing as no signees that year for them.
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BShark said:
@jayballer73 It’s definitely going to get rough but then it will get better. Louisville is the perfect example. They got hammered and recovered.
This current class is not going to have any star appeal.
This is going to be a year of loyalty for the program - - - well I’m saying from a fans perspective in a way anyways.
You know - - I know these other programs fan base everywhere you go - -they see your team, wearing gear an such - -get ready for all the BS remarks , talking about how the program is scum - - dirty always has been always will be they will say , Can’t win without cheating and all kinds of cheap shots - – just sayin - - be ready.
Now I know , and it’s ok if people don’t agree but all I’m saying is - -that IF it turns out and to me it’s looking more and more that whether we want to accept it or not - - at least from the so called wire taps - - info that couldn’t be introduced to the case or whatever , but if that took place if money WAS exchanged for a players service to get them to come here - - - -if they played or not - - bottom line is - - money was given , there was supposed where Coach asking if we were good - -again is being said Coach offered to resign - -IF your not guilty of something , then WHY would you do that?
If I’m innocent of these allegations there is no way in Hell I would be doing something such as that -to me him making a statement IF he did just solidifies his guilt in this - -again I can understand why people might disagree with what I’m saying here - it’s ok if you do I understand. I’m just trying to look from all sides.
Again IF and it’s looking like as much as we don’t want to admit it from phone conversations and yes again I get it - it wasn’t permitted to be used BUT whether it was permitted or not sure sounds like from the phone tap – money WAS exchanged – Bottom Line - -that is a violation period - - plain and simple - -try coloring it any way you want - - by NCAA guidelines a player can’t receive money well a player/parents who the hell ever - -So IF we did - - the YES we ARE guilty - - the old saying goes - - you do the crime - - -then do the time.
I hate this crap - -getting to old for this , I would give my left Nad if for once - - just ONCE in an upcoming season that we could go through a season with eligibility issues with players such as Cliff - - -the other kid that we had to fight for eligibility - - -or Billy or whoever - - just ONCE not have to worry about some NCAA bullshit - just give me one more regular season without this crap before I kick the bucket - -I’m so dam loyal to these guys - -I take it sometimes to fa - - it really chaps my ass when people start talking crap on the program – so this year is going to be a challenge for me to keep myself in check - -seriously I take this TO SERIOUS I think - -it’s a sport , but I can’t help it I love my Jayhawks even though I didn’t attend KU been this way since as long as I can remember . – Bottom line is guys - - BUCKLE UP BOYS - -it’s gonna get worse before it get’s better - - time to circle the wagons and unite - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina…???
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alwaysajayhawk said:
Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina…???
Well that’s no surprise, we sure know or should know , that no way he coming here with this NCAA BS coming at us.
It’s gonna be interesting to see exactly what we do end up with now this year, May even be a Juco - -Bill really gonna have to deep WAY DEEP look for those very obscure places for a recruit. - -May have to be a middle 100’s guy ranking - - I just don’t think we have a snow ball’s chance in hell of landing any kind of top 50 player with everything that’s going on right now. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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alwaysajayhawk said:
Rumblings??? Caleb Love to North Carolina…???
I believe this was likely and the KU crapstorm being churned back up sealed it.
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We need to start looking at our local kids now, there is still a lot of good local talent around
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alwaysajayhawk said:
We need to start looking at our local kids now, there is still a lot of good local talent around
Not a bad idea. Get who you can and hope to develop them.
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I hope that we can offer Ty Berry soon before he commits to Northwestern, Minnesota, or Okie St
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5* big man Walker Kessler committed to UNC tonight
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Oh wow. That’s a stunner.
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He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
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Welp https://twitter.com/ebosshoops/status/1175991008766713862?s=21
(https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-explosion-government-13d2jHlSlxklVe)
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This thread is starting to feel like free advertisements for other teams signees. Tough times never last, we hope
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https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/1176135194836910080?s=11
https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/1176132788787056641?s=11
Couple tweets from Evan Daniels this morning that I found interesting. Sure KU is still considered a blue blood, but they are not acquiring talent any longer like one. Also, it looks like there might be a handful of top 25 kids taking the pro route this year…
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Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
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Didn’t make Andre Curbelo’s final 5. Not sure how much of a target he was.
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Hopefully the staff doesn’t slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
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Woodrow said:
Hopefully the staff doesn’t slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
They’d take both in a heartbeat. Thompson could easily play off the ball.
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Woodrow said:
Hopefully the staff doesn’t slow play KK Robinson for Thompson. They need a PG in this class for sure.
And unless Thompson is coming with whatever is looming for certainty Robinson is surely a prospect you won’t get away stringing along
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FarmerJayhawk said:
He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
watch watch - -shouldn’t come as a big surprise now - - Todd/Kentucky
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it’s done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
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jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
He almost certainly wasn’t going there, but that 100% eliminates UNC for Todd
watch watch - -shouldn’t come as a big surprise now - - Todd/Kentucky
Overseas feels like the play here, though I could be wrong.
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Sounds like a few top players in this class will go overseas.
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah it’s only a matter of time before he makes it official
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it’s done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
Bag of peanuts
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hearing when, not if, for Caleb Love and UNC
Yeah it’s done. Not sure who the hell KU is getting for this class given the circumstances.
Bag of peanuts
Well, now we know why in full.
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
I expect Mitch, Harris and Braun on the roster next year. After that I don’t even know. Garrett, Dave and Enaruna if we are lucky.
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@BShark isn’t Mitch a senior this year?
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We will need him way more next season.
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BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
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HighEliteMajor said:
BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
Odds are high, since he is still currently here after the last offseason. Unless the NCAA literally bans him which would be fought.
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BShark said:
HighEliteMajor said:
BShark said:
I mentioned this is the other thread, but I am intrigued to see Bill with a full blown bag of rocks.
Hmmm. Bill has to be here to do that.
Odds are high, since he is still currently here after the last offseason. Unless the NCAA literally bans him which would be fought.
i’ll ask this again now the Lack of coaching Control or what ever the F it is - - this CAN lead to a year suspension - - if that indeed happens - - - Does Bill walk Away?
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A couple good links to read -
http://www.ncaa.org/enforcement/enforcement-process-charging
Second link is one from a while back that referenced KU’s odd approach when a lot of this surfaced, again could play into why we’re getting hammered.
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Caleb Love got 6 CB picks to UNC today. No surprise
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Love cancelled his trip to KU and has cut his list to Mizzou and UNC . No surprise here.
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Despite everything going on Gethro Muscadin took his visit to KU over the weekend.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Despite everything going on Gethro Muscadin took his visit to KU over the weekend.
Probably a player we can still get.
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Woodrow said:
Love cancelled his trip to KU and has cut his list to Mizzou and UNC . No surprise here.
one of many cancellations to come