The '19-'20 Season and Beyond (previously titled To Infinity and Beyond)
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The OAD rule will soon be gone, but there will still be plenty of divas. I’m of the opinion that we should, for the most part, steer clear of them. We had no OADS in '08, and that turned pretty good - ditto '12. The Year before last was not too bad either (Final Four), even the year before and year before, though only Elite Eights.
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Someone mentioned Zach Harvey the other day. Wonder if we’re interested? What did he get in trouble for?
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I don’t mind oad players, just ones that lie!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Which is all of them?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Give him hell…he deserves it!
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@Marco Naughty pictures.
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@Crimsonorblue22 which game did you see them at?
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@approxinfinity last one, baylor
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@Marco nobody played us like that kid and his dad!
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@Crimsonorblue22 should have figured it out like K and Penny. Then again maybe Self knew and was fine with it ie just part of playing the game.
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@Crimsonorblue22 True… To act like you’re going to make a school choice on ESPN, and taking both them and us for a ride was pretty pathetic.
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Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
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Marco said:
Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
Leader in the clubhouse
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Marco said:
Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
Leader in the clubhouse
You know, I’ll buy that… I think - even if we don’t sign Wilson - that we’ve finally turned the corner. The trial definitely hurt us (pun intended), but the worst is over. It’ll only get better from here.
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We offered a scholarship and are scheduling a Bilau visit. We have also offered Karim Mane. I sense a change in Coach. He might have been turned on and bit by the OAD types three or four times too many, has maybe changed his recruiting accordingly.
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@Marco Mentioned it in the crootin thread already but I like Bilau as a long term prospect.
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@BShark I like him too, also like Mane.
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@FarmerJayhawk brought up how he would like for us to sign Maker, Nx and Thompson in 2020, assuming we sign Walker, Bilau and Wilson thiis year (which means anytime now).
Dave 5, Enaruna 4, Wilson 3, Nix 1, Agbaji 2 - second 5; Maker, Bilau, Walker, McBride and Thompson, Braun in situational spots. The 2020 class is absolutely loaded. A team could sign the bottom five position players and do pretty good for themselves.
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@Marco honestly I’m not sure how realistic Maker is. KU made inroads with that crew during Thon’s recruitment, and probably would’ve gotten him had he gone to college. Just don’t ask how.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@Marco honestly I’m not sure how realistic Maker is. KU made inroads with that crew during Thon’s recruitment, and probably would’ve gotten him had he gone to college. Just don’t ask how.
I didn’t know that we were in that tight with his circle. Sounds like we stand (if not more) as good a chance as any to get him.
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So Maker, Thompson and Nix (2020) added to Walker, Wilson, Bilau, Enaruna, Braun and McBride? And if Garrett and Agbaji were both back that would still leave us with two scholarships to give…
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It seems that the worst is behind us. Thoughts on who we stand a realistic chance of getting in 2020?
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Now that we’ve added Moss and Wilson we can finally fully focus on the 20-21 and 21-22 classes. Coach always pulls a rabbit or two out of a hat. Wonder who they are focusing on now, and I mean really focusing on?
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I have no idea who we are focusing on, to be honest. Kyree? Maybe. But what position will he play? We already have McBride (who is bigtime), Wilson who will be around for atleast two maybe three years, Agbaji (who knows, maybe he’ll be back too), and Enaruna and Braun who will both be back. I don’t see us landing Kyree, who then?
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Marco said:
I have no idea who we are focusing on, to be honest. Kyree? Maybe. But what position will he play? We already have McBride (who is bigtime), Wilson who will be around for atleast two maybe three years, Agbaji (who knows, maybe he’ll be back too), and Enaruna and Braun who will both be back. I don’t see us landing Kyree, who then?
McBride will be recruited over frequently so I would be prepared for that.
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@Marco some targets
Guards: Adam Miller, Karim Mane, Daishen Nix, Bryce Thompson, Caleb Love
Posts: Josh Hall, Isaiah Todd
Couldn’t tell you the exact order of priority but I am pretty sure KU would take any of them if they wanted to commit today.
I didn’t bother with unrealistic targets like say…Dante or Greg Brown. Hopefully they both cut KU soon.
New targets will begin to appear as the season comes around. This time last year no members of the current four man class were even on the radar to my knowledge. Trying to recall…
McBride was a July find and the staff quickly liked him more than Jacobs.
Enaruna popped onto everyone’s radar in November, wasn’t even recruited before then.
Braun was a bit of an emergency pivot and quick take. Everything there happened within a 3 week span if memory serves.
Wilson of course was committed to Michigan until Bill 4D Chess Self had his bag men pay Belein to take the Cavs job.
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@BShark I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Was Mason? Was Graham?
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@BShark you are full of it!
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Okay, here’s the deal… While my logic may be wrong-headed that is exactly the kind of logic that’s needed when trying to guess what an obtuse and obese entity - the NCAA - might want to or will do (and trust me, I know how these animals think, though I am not obtuse or obese).
The NCAA cleared De Sousa to play, saying he was eligible after he had graduated early coming to KU. We then - after all of the cowshit hit the fan - sat him last year and the NCAA then without merit or proof benched him for not only the entire season but for this coming season as well.
The NCAA then reversed that ruling, saying that De Sousa is eligible to play this season. Question. If they had proof of improper benefits would they have ruled him eligible this season? The answer is no. Preston we never even played and didn’t know about, right?
Trust me everyone, I know these animals. We will not even get a slap on the wrist (unless you are counting blah, blah, blah, some kind of sanction that doesn’t even matter). Arizona, Louisville and LSU on the other hand, I wouldn’t want to be them.
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Marco said:
@BShark I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Was Mason? Was Graham?
Um, in a word yes. Bill tried, he just couldn’t sign the guys he wanted to.
In 2015 alone KU offered and seriously recruited Malik Newman, Jalen Brunson, Jalen Adams, Donovan Mitchell, Allonzo Trier, Justin Simon and Tyler Dorsey among others. Those are all PGs, being recruited when Mason and Graham were on the roster. 4 of them were 5* to boot.
@Crimsonorblue22 about what?
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@BShark And why weren’t they signed? Maybe because Mason and Graham were there?
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@BShark self had his bagman pay Belein to go to cavs
you usually get me
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@Crimsonorblue22 That was a good payoff. Maybe we can rustle up some boosters to get Roy, Cal and K to shuffle off too?
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Final score, KU 84-76 Duke
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@Marco Because Bill missed. He definitely tried. In 2016 he really only went after Fox at the PG spot.
@Crimsonorblue22 4D chess!
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@BShark I know he tried. I’m saying that he probably missed because Mason and Graham were already there. Just as he’ll probably whiff on presumed bigtime PG recruits the next three or for years due to McBride and whoever the other top 75-120 player that he signs to back him/play with him is, which is fine by me. When it comes to Kansas PGs I’ll take four years of Mason, Graham or McBride over a OAD any day of the week.
I think we stand a good chance at signing Mane to back up and play with McBride. Thompson is a must-get, and Todd would definitely be a keeper.
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Any of the guys I listed would likely start over McBride.
And we will see. Just as often as we have success stories we see guys get recruited over and not amount to much and/or leave.
I like McBride, I really do, but Self is always trying to recruit the best players possible.
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BShark said:
Any of the guys I listed would likely start over McBride.
And we will see. Just as often as we have success stories we see guys get recruited over and not amount to much and/or leave.
I like McBride, I really do, but Self is always trying to recruit the best players possible.
That’s a good take of the situation.
Dotson seems like a sure thing to leave after this upcoming season so Self will have to recruit and sign a PG/Combo Guard anyway.
I’m pulling for McBride to carve out a role this season that would leave him in a good position to take over. I think he’s pretty much everything Self wants in a lead guard from skills to character. I think he outplays the ranking besides his name. Whether that’s good enough to be the guy is up to him to prove
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@BeddieKU23 Braun at the 2. I know…sounds weird. But I think it would work. Mackey Braun JW Enaruna and Big Dave. That team would shoot over 40% from 3.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 Braun at the 2. I know…sounds weird. But I think it would work. Mackey Braun JW Enaruna and Big Dave. That team would shoot over 40% from 3.
your just that kinda of a weird guy lmao – -just messin with ya man
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@jayballer73 We’d create mismatches all over the court. I was very impressed with Braun in that scrimmage. That kid can flat shoot, and he is not in awe of anyone. He’s a tough kid.
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BShark said:
Any of the guys I listed would likely start over McBride.
And we will see. Just as often as we have success stories we see guys get recruited over and not amount to much and/or leave.
I like McBride, I really do, but Self is always trying to recruit the best players possible.
As he should, and no problem as Iong as eight to nine spots are reserved for the top 50 - 70s like Enaruna andl Wilson, and top 80 - 120s like Braun and McBride. They are going to be so important these next three or four years. Build around their versatility, adding pieces for up four years.
We will need a center and more than likely 4, also a 1 and a two. I think we nem/ tiiOS
I’m on-board, gonna be interesting to see who we add to them. Braun would work as a 2 - work bigtime.
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KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 We’d create mismatches all over the court. I was very impressed with Braun in that scrimmage. That kid can flat shoot, and he is not in awe of anyone. He’s a tough kid.
He’s going to be doing alot of that, impressing people. It looks like Enaruna is starting to do that, too.
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I am really looking forward to this season. It is not often where a team has 12 scholarship players and all 12 can play, a good problem to have. It’s going to be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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And now we have Harris, thirteen scholarship players. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!
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