New 2019 Recruiting
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How does this uncertainty effect recruiting? It means recruits can speculate that a player of Grimes’ caliber could return until May 29, I suppose. It seems the late roster turnover hurts KUs recruiting most years. More upper class men are easy to replace as its easily predicable by recruits and coaches both.
A new NCAA rule allows a player who has declared for the draft to return to school even if he has enlisted the services of an agent to help him test his professional prospects. There are several stipulations attached, and if the player returns to school, he must end the relationship with the agent. The deadline to pull out of the draft is May 29.
80th ranked recruit
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Woodrow said:
Self meeting with RJ Hampton today
LFFFFFFFFFFG.
@dylans Grimes is the most gone ever. I think if he could have, he wouldn’t have bothered with a year of college.
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@BShark He was never engaged. I
% agree, but will recruits see it the same way?
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I think Grimes made it as clear as he could in his statement and Self backs it up. Should have a starting spot to sell to Stanley.
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I wouldn’t say he was never engaged!
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@dylans I think Self meets with them before and after the season and let’s them know what’s up. I’m sure he told Grimes if he declared there won’t be a spot here for him next season.
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Day 1 there’s been an open spot
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@Kcmatt7 I’d agree because it makes business sense, but then there was Vick. Grimes didn’t really have any temper tantrums or issues that I recall; he just wasn’t very good. Ok, not great and definitely not nba material yet.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Day 1 there’s been an open spot
#AskCrims #CrimsKnows
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I still have faith Bill (and Adidas) find a way to fill the roster. Between Hampton, Precious, Dante, Beverly and transfers, we will have a squad next season.
I do still have to wonder about Doke and De Sousa, but I’m sure Bill already knows what’s going on with those two.
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RJ still going to finish his AAU season though. Can someone explain to me why they do this? Is it because he still has school to finish? Or because he can get paid under the table all summer if he plays AAU ball?
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Also, just thought about how USA Basketball helped KU exaclty none amount. I don’t even know why coaches do it at this point. It hasn’t helped a single coach recruit yet. Not even Stumpy or Cal.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ku and Kentucky will meet with Hurt this week. Presumably to be told he is not going to either
ya probably so. - Is this at the School’s request OR Hurt’s request? - If it is him requesting to meet with them then for sure 100 % he is letting them know. - - If he is meeting with them this late in the week - why else would he be meeting with both schools? - he sure isn’t telling them both that he is committing to their school’s.
losing another player that we were suppose to be such a heavy lean just like Ayton only to have them to commit to another school is really starting to chap my ass. Pretty sick of this crap
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Kcmatt7 said:
Also, just thought about how USA Basketball helped KU exaclty none amount. I don’t even know why coaches do it at this point. It hasn’t helped a single coach recruit yet. Not even Stumpy or Cal.
Pretty funny to look back on it now. I remember reading countless articles about how much of a unfair advantage it gave Self when it came to recruiting those kids and we got absolutely nothing from it.
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BShark said:
I think Grimes made it as clear as he could in his statement and Self backs it up. Should have a starting spot to sell to Stanley.
Unless Hampton re classifies right? - - right? - been some talk if he commits to KU him and Dotson would play the 1 & the 2 at the same time
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@Woodrow It is an unfair advantage…
It’s just not as unfair as paying guys under the table in cold hard cash and guaranteeing them millions of dollars in endorsements when they’re done with college.
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When is it that Stanley said he was going to make his choice? - -it’s really close isn’t it? - - Watch the way our season has gone - watch him commit to Oregon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Stanley’s father said he hasn’t heard from UCLA or Cronin yet, and that he has never talked with Cronin prior to UCLA. He also said he will have a meeting with UCLA “out of respect for the program.” It makes it seem like it’s going to be Kansas or Oregon for Stanley.
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Did Stanley ever visit Oregon?
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OK, - -got a question. What would your guys take be if this situation came up.
Let’s say Beverly wanted to commit to KU ? - - let’s say Hampton was still on the board and that the staff felt comfortable that he was gonna re classify - -and that he was really interested but hadn’t made a commitment . - -Again Beverly wanted to commit - - So what do we do? - - do we by pass on Beverly cause Bennett is really interested - knowing that the higher rated Bennet good chance we land him - -or do we go ahead and take Beverly? - -which way do you go? - for me - -I take the commit from Beverly - -as good as Bennet is I’d rather take a quality guy and KNOW that he is ours then take that chance and then not end up later landing Bennett and end up losing out on both - -what you think? - which way would you go. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kcmatt7 said:
Did Stanley ever visit Oregon
Seems like they did. -I think seems to me he is announcing next week
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@jayballer73 there’s an article in rivals that said Stanley will decide on the 17 th and hurt the 19th.
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Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
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Our guard situation still seems okay regardless of what happens with Stanley or Hampton. Doke staying would be huge because it doesn’t look like we’re getting Hurt or Achiuwa. I’d much rather have senior Doke anyway.
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@jayballer73 In finance they talk about present vs future value of money. It’s understood that the present value of a dollar is always more valuable than that same dollar in the future. Same reason why everyone who wins the lottery should take the lump sum.
I’d take the commit. Our roster is looking too thin to be very picky or to take big gambles. Also, seems like we are going to have plenty of spots open for all comers if you ask me.
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rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 there’s an article in rivals that said Stanley will decide on the 17 th and hurt the 19th.
ya just read that - -so feel a lot better o the chances of Stanley over Hurt
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Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
As laughable as you say - it sounds got a question , the one out of the entire group that I thought for sure would be gone - It was Doke. - the question being if he was 100% gone - why is he one of the last possible two to go - -why is it he is the one who hasn’t said anything yet? - IS He thinking about returning for his Senior? - Never say never.
Actually I think we have a solid chance at Stanley AND Hampton
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benshawks08 said:
@jayballer73 In finance they talk about present vs future value of money. It’s understood that the present value of a dollar is always more valuable than that same dollar in the future. Same reason why everyone who wins the lottery should take the lump sum.
I’d take the commit. Our roster is looking too thin to be very picky or to take big gambles. Also, seems like we are going to have plenty of spots open for all comers if you ask me.
you thinking pretty much the same as me - -I’ll take the commit - the 1st to commit - -I’m taking - -if we get the 2nd later on then hell ya - -but I’m not gonna pass up on a quality player for the possibility of higher ranked - again possibility
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Well just a little follow up with Precious, just another random thought. - - Was reading and thinking following on what Cory Evans was saying and then seen this today.
Cory had said it was a toss up right now with Precious and that Georgia and N Carolina was the dark horse’s but that KU and Memphis were probably the more accurate places for Precious to land very well could be KU & Memphis - - so OK if that indeed is truly the Case then - - - -
I would think would have to help us with Precious as I seen that Memphis is trending pretty hard with Trendon Watford I believe is his name 6’9 - - - -5* think him and Precious play the same spot PF - -makes you wonder if he lands there - -quite possible that they feeling might be losin out on Precious and going harder after Trendon - -would love it - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
I mean, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
I mean, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
It’s not. And that team would be salty af. Really takes convincing Hampton to come play next to Stanley though.
Imagine all the dunks from that group…
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Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
I mean, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
It’s not. And that team would be salty af. Really takes convincing Hampton to come play next to Stanley though.
Imagine all the dunks from that group…
Agree but man RJ would be a NEED because of his shooting.
If I were putting in cb picks I’d say
Hurt - Duke (duh)
Stanley - KU
Precious - KU
RJ - Cloudy
I’d love to get Beverly too and that’s a winnable recruitment but man that would take some legendary finessing to get Stanley, RJ and Beverly and I just don’t see it happening.
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@BShark Of those 3…what order would you prefer?
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Hawk8086 said:
@BShark Of those 3…what order would you prefer?
RJ is an NBA player all day. So him.
Stanley and Precious can’t shoot but both are next level athletes that KU would be fortunate to have on the roster next year.
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Why hasn’t doke decided?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn’t doke decided?
The door may be ajar.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
I mean, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
It’s not. And that team would be salty af. Really takes convincing Hampton to come play next to Stanley though.
Imagine all the dunks from that group…
Agree but man RJ would be a NEED because of his shooting.
If I were putting in cb picks I’d say
Hurt - Duke (duh)
Stanley - KU
Precious - KU
RJ - Cloudy
I’d love to get Beverly too and that’s a winnable recruitment but man that would take some legendary finessing to get Stanley, RJ and Beverly and I just don’t see it happening.
You mean like signing the top 3 small forward prospects and 4 of the top 10 overall? Never say never, but KU doesn’t have Nike ahem influence.
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BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn’t doke decided?
The door may be ajar.
Too injured for the combine and not enough playing time to improve his poor draft stock from last year would be my guess. That’s all it is though.
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@BShark well he can’t test
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dylans said:
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn’t doke decided?
The door may be ajar.
Too injured for the combine and not enough playing time to improve his poor draft stock from last year would be my guess. That’s all it is though.
I’m guessing his circle realizes he won’t be playing in the NBA ever. So the choice is do they want to have him go pro in another country and start cashing checks. I would guess Doke loves Lawrence. Hope he stays.
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If Dok were less injury prone, I’d love to see Les use him as a tight end. He’s more likely to make NFL money than NBA.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn’t doke decided?
My gut says he’s back.
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@dylans no way!
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BShark said:
dylans said:
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Why hasn’t doke decided?
The door may be ajar.
Too injured for the combine and not enough playing time to improve his poor draft stock from last year would be my guess. That’s all it is though.
I’m guessing his circle realizes he won’t be playing in the NBA ever. So the choice is do they want to have him go pro in another country and start cashing checks. I would guess Doke loves Lawrence. Hope he stays.
I think signing Ochai helped even more. That article about the food awhile back was great.
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@BShark I don’t think he loves Lawrence.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Watch Bill close on Stanley and Hampton and Doke stays lol.
- PG: Dotson - Mcbride
- SG: Hampton
- SF : Stanley
- PF: Ochai - Garrett
- C: Doke - Big Dave - Mitch
A pipe dream, but it’d be one hell of a group.
I mean, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. KU is well positioned with Stanley.
It’s not. And that team would be salty af. Really takes convincing Hampton to come play next to Stanley though.
Imagine all the dunks from that group…
Agree but man RJ would be a NEED because of his shooting.
If I were putting in cb picks I’d say
Hurt - Duke (duh)
Stanley - KU
Precious - KU
RJ - Cloudy
I’d love to get Beverly too and that’s a winnable recruitment but man that would take some legendary finessing to get Stanley, RJ and Beverly and I just don’t see it happening.
My only concern is, if we somehow pulled of Precious, Stanley and RJ, they aren’t exactly the most humble of guys… I could see some personallity clash. Or, they could feed off of each other… High risk high reward.
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@Kcmatt7 I’d love to have that problem. Like paying taxes on winning the lottery!
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The team banquet is next Tuesday. I’m guessing a decision from Doke might happen by then.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
The team banquet is next Tuesday. I’m guessing a decision from Doke might happen by then.
I’d love for him to announce at the banquet.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3907339
Grad Transfer TJ Holyfield from SFA announced he is going to take a visit to KU
