Preseason Hype/Discussion
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BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Self just said Doke and Dedric have solidified themselves as the starting bigs.
Makes sense. I want to dream damn it. I have small ball fever.
Move to Pennsylvania, follow Villanova. LOL
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Self just said Doke and Dedric have solidified themselves as the starting bigs.
Makes sense. I want to dream damn it. I have small ball fever.
Move to Pennsylvania, follow Villanova. LOL
Lol. Hard pass.
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Good to here reassuring words from Self.
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Grimes is learning to always be on the move when Lawson has the ball, and at a recent practice, the big man found Grimes cutting to the basket. He cocked the ball back as if he was going to dunk it until Silvio De Sousa met him at the rim. Instead of trying to dunk on De Sousa, Grimes adjusted in mid-air, going underneath De Sousa’s left arm and dropped the ball over the rim with a finger roll.
“I was like, ‘woo, that was crazy,’” De Sousa says.
“If that was me or anyone else,” sophomore Chris Teahan says, “they’re flat on their back because Silvio knocks them over.”
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“It’s definitely hard to guard him and keep him in front, especially if he hits you in the chest, it knocks you back a little bit and he can get separation and knock it down,” Teahan says. “He has certain moves in his body that are hitchy, and he’ll get you moving a half step one way and get enough room to knock it down in your face.”
These are the type of moves that won Self over, and once the Jayhawks started recruiting Grimes, the expectation was that they would land him because his mom, Tonja Stelly, also attended KU. But Howard says Stelly was no help. “She made it extra tough for us because she went here,” he says. “She wanted him to make the decision himself.”
Grimes was ultimately convinced it was the best system for him because of Self’s fist offense and the freedom he gives his guards to make multiple reads with the ball in their hands. When Grimes is asked about theoretical plays, he talks out the progressions and options he would have with the ball.
Close your eyes and you can picture Deron Williams, who would play methodically and then beat defenders with a burst. “Deron was sneaky athletic too,” Howard says. “But this kid, he’s freaky. And he’s fast too.”
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Told y’all Grimes has a great basketball mind.
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BShark said:
Told y’all Grimes has a great basketball mind.
Had no doubts either. Can’t wait to see it on the floor
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He was a really nice surprise at the U18 games when he played PG and was select the Tournament MVP. Kid can do it all.
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Lol found put from local sports talk. - The Big 12 screwed up , they commented that KU actually WAS NOT the 100% pick to win the Big 12 title this year - - Said that yes K-State received a pick to win it - - OSU head coach- Boyton said he has learned that experience means a lot - - And there you have it – the rest of the news - -this is " Jayballer " - - Good Day lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Interesting stuff from Ryan on the Phog here: https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Starting-lineup-tomorrow-123759798/
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Coaches cannot vote for their own team so no team gets all the votes.
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KSU got 2
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Coaches cannot vote for their own team so no team gets all the votes.
BUT yet the big 12 had come out and said that KU was a unmanious pick to win the Big twelve again – well actually they said K-State got 2 votes when they corrected, I do know you can’t vote for yourself , so there had to be 2 Coaches pick K-State
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
KSU got 2
Exactly - that is what I just responded to another on here - -All I heard them say was Boyton , but there had to be another also. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Boynton and Self @jayballer73
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jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
Boynton and Self @jayballer73
makes sense jut didn’t realize self voted for K- State
He can’t vote for KU so had to be another school.
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@BShark ya I understand that but just didn’t know it was K-State he voted for - -maybe WV just didn’t know
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Interesting nugget from Matt Tait
Recent guards at KU and minutes played as a FR
Frank Mason III – 567
Devonte’ Graham – 506
Svi Mykhailiuk – 291
Brannen Greene – 184
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Marcus Garrett…748
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The teams was very shorthanded last season so that partially explains it. Also, Coach Self is big on defense and player that are willing to play tough defense will see more minutes. Very impressive either way.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
The teams was very shorthanded last season so that partially explains it. Also, Coach Self is big on defense and player that are willing to play tough defense will see more minutes. Very impressive either way.
10000000% correct.
In 2007-08 Self continued to play Russell Robinson(senior) over Sherron Collins(sophomore). It was all about defense and turnovers, Self’s biggest obsessions. Of course as the tournament went on Sherron got more of the minutes.
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@BShark He completely disrupts the other team. There is a ton going on with Marcus that never shows up in the box score. There were several balls he tipped that resulted in turnovers for us, and him picking up 9 rebounds, and challenging that taller player at the rim ( he picked up a foul ), the step through drive to the basket looked a little like Frank, with some Malik ankle breaking thrown in. His shot still looks terrible, but he did manage to guide one of those dead ducks in. He is one good jump shot away from being a star.
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ESPN has 3 Hawks listed in the Top 60 for the draft.
Quentin Grimes #6
Dedric Lawson #36
Udoka Azubuike # 57
**Devon Dotson #51 overall prospect but not listed in either round. Definitely one to monitor as the season goes on…
Vick & Silvio - Not in Top 100 or in Top 20 of their position groups.
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BeddieKU23 said:
ESPN has 3 Hawks listed in the Top 60 for the draft.
Quentin Grimes #6
Dedric Lawson #36
Udoka Azubuike # 57
**Devon Dotson #51 overall prospect but not listed in either round. Definitely one to monitor as the season goes on…
Vick & Silvio - Not in Top 100 or in Top 20 of their position groups.
Fully expecting Dotson to be back.
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Six Big 12 players on the Naismith watch list, and two Jayhawks. Dedric Lawson, Quentin Grimes, Dean Wade, Barry Brown, Sagaba Konate, and Lindell Wigginton.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
ESPN has 3 Hawks listed in the Top 60 for the draft.
Quentin Grimes #6
Dedric Lawson #36
Udoka Azubuike # 57
**Devon Dotson #51 overall prospect but not listed in either round. Definitely one to monitor as the season goes on…
Vick & Silvio - Not in Top 100 or in Top 20 of their position groups.
Fully expecting Dotson to be back.
I hope so, he’s a sneaky wild card for the draft I think at the moment. Will let the season play out before I make any further judgement but if he’s the starter and playing well scouts will notice.
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Andy Katz has his pre-season brackets and KU does not make the Final Four losing to UNC in the Elite 8. I guess he did not get the memo that KU owns UNC in the NCAA.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Andy Katz has his pre-season brackets and KU does not make the Final Four losing to UNC in the Elite 8. I guess he did not get the memo that KU owns UNC in the NCAA.
Imagine predicting a Roy team to beat a Self team. LOLOLOL.
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For some reason, Andy Putz is not a fan of KU…must be the ESPN thing…
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@JayHawkFanToo ESPN = ACC hype. Medcalf predicts Self will leave KU for the NBA at the end of this season. Go figure.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@JayHawkFanToo ESPN = ACC hype. Medcalf predicts Self will leave KU for the NBA at the end of this season. Go figure.
I remember a couple years ago when Baylor people were trying to wish this into existence as well.
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Ochai Agbaji is going to red shirt this year.
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Fantastic news.
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Woodrow said:
Ochai Agbaji is going to red shirt this year.
I was just about to make a thread for this, lol.
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Dude is going to be a serious program contributor when it is all said and done.
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“Self said no other KU players would redshirt this season.”
So just Ochai and Elliott.
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“I love his athletic ability, his smile, his intellect, his savvy. He has a lot of things to him that are really beyond his years, but he still needs a chance to play and play through some mistakes,” Self said recently in discussing the redshirt possibility for Agbaji. “I also think he is so much like Travis (Releford) was. Travis … the best thing for him ever was to sit out a year. He was able to start to and have an unbelievable two years for us. I think Ochai could even maybe experience more success than Travis even did, and I love Travis Releford. I think this youngster has a chance. He’s just young.”
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Preseason Bracketology has six Big 12 teams in the tournament. Interestingly, they have Oklahoma St. in and Iowa St and Texas out. Hmm.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Preseason Bracketology has six Big 12 teams in the tournament. Interestingly, they have Oklahoma St. in and Iowa St and Texas out. Hmm.
DRUG ARE BAD MMMKAY?
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Actually upon further inspection they have Texas listed in the first four out but they are also a 9 seed in the South region, so I don’t know what the hell they’re doing.
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@BShark THEY must be on some serious drugs lol - -step back from the pipe and slowly back away - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Found this line in an ESPN article and thought it appropriate (changed NFL to basketball).
- Unless you’re some kind of narcissistic psycho, you’re not watching the NCAA basketball season hoping it turns out exactly the way you predicted it would. You watch it for the surprises, for the unexpected. You watch it to find out what exactly it is that you didn’t know, even though you thought you did. Dan Graziano
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We must be the most boring #1 preseason team ever. You have to scroll down at least 30 articles to find any mention of KU.
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here is some little tid bits on the Season. - -Says KU has 10 ( well should actually be 12 ? -but it said KU has 10 guaranteed or potential matchups against teams that are reasonably projected 1st or 2nd in their conference this season.
They are : Michigan State - - - -Vermont - - - Louisiana- - -Tennessee-----Marquette- - - -Wofford - - - New Mexico State- - - Villanova- - -South Dakota- - Kentucky - - -( then we have K-State TWICE) that’s pretty decent. - - although there are a couple that - I mean let’s be real - -but still. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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