New 2019 Recruiting
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Ummm so I actually think Nova is the bigger threat than UNC for JRE now. Still think KU is the most likely destination but it’s uncomfortably uncertain.
seen this morning off 247 that actually Villanova just gained their first pick for JRE - - - - -I don’t like it. - heard his visit with Villanova they REALLY hit it off. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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There’s opportunity at Louisville too, they had to get a monster class because the team has 7 scholarship players after this season if no one leaves. Its definitely clear players see things differently then fans. I’m sure players think the worst of it is behind them with a new regime in place
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I know I’m not the only one that’s been saying JRE to KU was a pipedream. Certainly momentum is going that way
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@BeddieKU23 For me even though I maybe haven’t felt as comfortable especially lately about JRE to KU - - -I have never thought it was a pipedream to think he was Coming to KU. - I’ve felt pretty dam good about him coming here.Maybe don’t feel as good about him coming now - -although I still feel he DOES come yet to say JRE coming to KU was a pipe dream? - -can’t really see why you or anyone thinking JRE coming to KU would be a pipe dream - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Maybe pipedream wasn’t the right word. I’ll switch to unlikely, that’s been my thought for months. We’ll find out soon enough
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@BeddieKU23 being the leader isn’t a pipe dream. I’m thinking like 80% chance to like 60% now.
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It won’t shock me if there is a one year swoon in recruiting due to the crapstorm. Hopefully not…
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Still more likely than not we get Hurt and JRE. Some are more pessimistic than I but if this all anyone has on KU it’s going to be a non-factor.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 being the leader isn’t a pipe dream. I’m thinking like 80% chance to like 60% now. I agree with you the only thing is wouldn’t it be 80/20 now instead of 80/60?
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As in it was 80% KU, 20% somewhere else to now it’s 60% KU, 40% somewhere else.
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just checked 247 sports. - -It shows 90 % KU 10 % Villanova , there has been 10 predictions 9- -for KU - -1 for Villanova
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@jayballer73 Farmer was talking about his own opinion, not the cb.
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On the bright side we were wondering if KU had room for all the perceived 2020 leans and that probably won’t be an issue now.
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@BShark my bad sorry – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
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5* Top 25 player Oscar Tshiebwe just committed to West Virginia. Big time get for Huggy Bear.
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Looks like nova is getting more movement @jerrymeyer247 predicts JRE TO THEM
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Looks like nova is getting more movement @jerrymeyer247 predicts JRE TO THEM
Gross. Not only are they kicking our ass on he court they are going to come in and get a kid that KU has no excuse to lose. This one will hurt if it happens.
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Woodrow said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Looks like nova is getting more movement @jerrymeyer247 predicts JRE TO THEM
Gross. Not only are they kicking our ass on he court they are going to come in and get a kid that KU has no excuse to lose. This one will hurt if it happens.
Yep. Sucks.
Have to think the current situation is having an impact in recruiting.
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@BShark I think for sure it is having an impact - - JRE is not a OAD and I think he is thinking about any punishment that might be headed our way - -which contrary to what seem to think - -I can see it coming If this happens which is quite likely I don’t think he will be the only one we lose
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I am still not sure there will be major infractions, but it will definitely impact recruiting. I’m not sure where KU is going to go for post players now. Might need Mitch next season.
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@BShark ya because w will have McCormack but other then that – who you got?
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@jayballer73 Mitch…
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@BShark lol umm surely your not talking about Mitch Lightfoot - -the one that a lot like to talk smack about right? - - surely not him lmao
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jayballer73 said:
@BShark lol umm surely your not talking about Mitch Lightfoot - -the one that a lot like to talk smack about right? - - surely not him lmao
Yep.
YOUR STARTING FORWARD, FROM GILBERT ARIZONA. MITCH LIIIIGHTFOOT.
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Brb pouring some scotch.
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@BShark I would think KJ and Mac would be our starting frontline. We’ll have Dotson, Garrett, Charlie, Agbaji, Braun in the back court, with Mac, KJ, and Lightfoot up front. Unless KJ goes pro.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark I would think KJ and Mac would be our starting frontline. We’ll have Dotson, Garrett, Charlie, Agbaji, Braun in the back court, with Mac, KJ, and Lightfoot up front. Unless KJ goes pro.
prepares sky is falling material
Yeah, that’s very not good. That’s a lose in the round of 32 type of roster unfortunately. Probably doesn’t win the league either with how good ISU, TCU and Texas will be. It’s basically this year’s roster minus the best 4-5 guys. Braun being the 5th guard is terrifying and Charlie Moore is Naadir Tharpe 2.0. That post line-up is already falling off a cliff from this year. If KJ did leave as well, it would be a disaster.
Best to enjoy this year.
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@BShark - --LMAO - - you crazy buddy lol
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@BShark I guess we better get a national championship this year. Charlie will never be Naadir, simply because Bill will never let him run the team at pg. Dotson, Garrett, and MacBryde will make sure of it.
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KUSTEVE said:
MacBryde
And I thought I was drunk. Oh wait I am.
Anyway yeah, this team could definitely win a national title. Even without Silvio, though Silvio would obviously help. I have very high hopes. Best roster Self has had since those 2010 and 2011 teams.
Also Self will add some guys, I just have no idea who they will be. Self isn’t going into next season with Dave, Mitch and a combo forward as the only post guys.
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Zeke
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@BShark LOL @ “and I thought I was drunk”.
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At this time, the only thing that can possibly hurt KU is the $2,500 sent Silvio and the more likely penalty would be a 2-3 game suspension for Silvio. No way they can trace anything on Preston to KU because there is plenty of evidence that KU did not know what had transpired with his mom and his mom actively coached Billy on how to lie and keep KU in the dark. Same thing with Zion. The fact that he did not end up at KU indicates he did not get money from KU or Adidas and now Duke is the program with the big issue; no way Zion/family suddenly decide to forgo the money and go to Duke without money being involved, no way, no how, no ma’am.
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@JayHawkFanToo I’m talking about the optics of the situation hurting KU’s recruiting not any actual sanctions.
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Worst (realistic) scenario: a lineup of Moore, Garrett, K.J., Zeke, McCormack is a top 10 team that’ll win the conference.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Worst (realistic) scenario: a lineup of Moore, Garrett, K.J., Zeke, McCormack is a top 10 team that’ll win the conference.
I like that you feel this strongly about landing Zeke.
I really hope Dotson is back though.
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All the prospects know exactly how recruiting works so I don’t believe the current situation will scare them away. Actually, they probably know more about who is getting paid and who is doing the paying than the coaching staffs do.
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@JayHawkFanToo Well if it wasn’t the situation, Self got his ass kicked by Jay Wright for JRE. It feels like it was a factor though.
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That is yet to be decided. A serious spanking when Villanova comes to AFH in December will help.
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@BShark yeah if we whiff on JRE I fully expect to land Zeke. This is totally going to sound like “I didn’t want JRE anyway I’m a Kentucky fan” but Zeke is the better long term prospect. Personally I’d rather have JRE for next year but Zeke may be the better player long term.
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Very interesting take that makes a lot of sense.
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@JayHawkFanToo JRE will announce before that game is played.
@FarmerJayhawk Actually I agree with you. Zeke has enormous potential. I was hoping he would be a multi-year guy but it sounded like his dad was saying the plan is OAD. JRE is definitely a really good basketball player right now, but his long term and star potential are kinda meh. He reminds me of Perry in that respect. Better leaper than Perry for sure though.
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@JayHawkFanToo @BShark if Zeke is a OAD KU had a phenomenal year so I’m A OK there
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I’d love to get Zeke regardless of how long he plans to stay at this point, because KU definitely needs help for next year’s front court if the team is going to be FF good.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
All the prospects know exactly how recruiting works so I don’t believe the current situation will scare them away. Actually, they probably know more about who is getting paid and who is doing the paying than the coaching staffs do.
I have to agree with you to a point anyways - -these guys probably do know how things work BUT the only thing I belive is that when it is a tight race in the recruiting battle that things such as what is going on right now MIGHT be just enough to lure them away from us to another school. Exp - - JRE/Villanova/N Carolina.
We all know that these other schools will be and are using this as a major recruiting tool talking really negative about us with this- -we have seen it happen. All you have to do is look at the Langford recruitment - -which took a turn for the karma route with daddy talking his shit and - - Surprise look who’s name gets brought up even in the slightest of ways. Daddy making remarks as he did if I remember right, can’t remember exactly what he said but he was talking trash on the KU program and then BAM - -just afraid when it’s a tight call things like this are not good - that’s why I believe it very well could cause them to go the other way. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark I agree JRE is a very good player for sure and really want him BUT I just never really considered him as a OAD - - do you believe that he is? - -maybe I’m missing something. I have looked at him as probably 2 even possibly 3 but more like 2.
I for sure would be just as happy with Zeke.- – -In all seriousness if Coach could only see talent that is right under his nose he would have a STAR studded player on his roster. - -All he has to do is call me - I think I have a couple of years of eligibility left to use. - I would ROCK the house roflmao – rock chalk all day long baby
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@jayballer73 Definitely not saying that. I did say Zeke’s dad has mentioned Zeke as a OAD. JRE is a 3-4 year guy for sure.
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May I opine (and I’ll admit, I am a glass 3/4 full kinda guy)? How 'bout a recruiting class that features Zeke, Chandler Lawson, Issac McBride and Christian Braun, along with another top 50 big man? I’ll take that, along with Dedric and KJ both returning to play in Allen with their brother for one year… I don’t think that we’ll get any probation, the story is TOO BIG, concerns all of college basketball, and even football.
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Swoosh rumors with JRE.
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Marco said:
May I opine (and I’ll admit, I am a glass 3/4 full kinda guy)? How 'bout a recruiting class that features Zeke, Chandler Lawson, Issac McBride and Christian Braun, along with another top 50 big man? I’ll take that, along with Dedric and KJ both returning to play in Allen with their brother for one year… I don’t think that we’ll get any probation, the story is TOO BIG, concerns all of college basketball, and even football.
That would be a bit of a disappointing class. Although you didn’t specify which Top 50 big man it would be we can all but assume the only target that will be on the board is Hurt after the November signing period.
If the class is Hurt, Zeke, Lawson, McBride & Braun its still a bit disappointing considering the talent they pursued but in time maybe this class would be viewed differently. Hurt is a OAD impact starter. Zeke is a rotation/extremely high upside type. I’m not a big fan of Chandler but his length (crazy wingspan) and skill set is intriguing to develop. McBride is a future starter imo, Bruan I will wait and see how much he changes his body and how he develops in the system.
I would put Dedric returning at less then 1%. 50/50 with KJ depending on his role and minutes this year.
