FBI...here we go
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I would think that just signing a contract per se is not a violation unless money is involved. I am sure Svi signed contracts with the teams he played prior to joining KU but still maintained his amateur status.
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It will be interesting on how this plays out, I believe a Maryland player had the same issue with a pro team contract and was cleared by the NCAA almost instantly. I thought that was one of the issues as to why Silvio wasn’t cleared as soon as he was on campus. At this point it doesn’t sound like they have a whole lot of info against KU. If all that they have is a dad saying stuff, that ain’t much. It’s as simple as this to me “it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove”. Even if he is right they got to come up with a paper trail or some hard evidence to get anything done. I’m kinda shocked we haven’t heard any of these taped phone conversations that were about money yet. I honestly wonder if they even exist or the media just ran with it because it was a big story. In this day and age you figured that would be leaked by now. I think it looks good that we sat Billy, it wouldn’t make sense to sit one guy that could have issues while playing another. Also it would be sad to vacate 20 games for a kid that played less than 5 minutes in 10 of those games, several he didn’t even record a stat outside of a foul. Let’s be honest Silvio was huge in Kansas City but really didn’t do squat before that and after that outside of the Clemson game. I still question why the stuff that they had on the NIke schools like Wendell Carter of Puke and The OSU coaches hasn’t gotten any further. I realize that’s a different trial than the current one that involves Gato but is there even a ongoing investigation to these claims? Everyone knows Nike is doing the same thing, kinda SMU getting the death penalty while other schools that had guys openly admitting to getting paid got nothing. Its like you have to have a few pawns high up to get away with it. I remember Cal talking about how the NCAA wanted 10x the amount of info at UMass for Camby than the top 5 recruits they get in UK every season. So the question to me is does how far does Coach Ks and Nike’s pull reach? All the way into the court room? I’ve said in the past the NCAA refuses to take down the SEC and ACC, theses are the big money conferences they have amended and changed rules before to help schools out in those conferences. If those guys get involved look for the NCAA to sweep previous offenses under the rug. I personally think guys have been getting paid for over 50 years, heck UK was busted in the 50s for it. They don’t care if you don’t leave it traceable IMO. I still believe this case to be a huge waste of tax payer money, the school shooter Florida was reported several times and ingnored it for months. With all the bs that J Edgar had within the FBI, I think it should be dissolved, I guess that’s an arguement for another time.
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Today is probably the biggest day for KU in the investigation. Defense’s turn to go at Gassnola and they will be trying to prove schools aren’t victims, meaning Self may be in the crosshairs.
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Ok Gassnola’s testimony and phone calls/texts are kinda crazy. Sounds like Laranaga and NC State Assist. coaches had direct contact and knowledge. Also sounds like Gassnola is throwing everyone under the bus he possible can. This is probably the most important testimony for both sides.
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Soren Petro crushing it rn
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Kcmatt7 said:
Ok Gassnola’s testimony and phone calls/texts are kinda crazy. Sounds like Laranaga and NC State Assist. coaches had direct contact and knowledge. Also sounds like Gassnola is throwing everyone under the bus he possible can. This is probably the most important testimony for both sides.
Given he’s already pleaded guilty and has a mutiny of other charges he could be facing in the future, how credible is anything he is going to say without the paper trail going to be believed?
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@BeddieKU23 Many of the things today have been recorded phone calls and text messages. So, pretty believable it seems.
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Things are heating up as expected.
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Today it was shown or said that Arizona offered $150,000 for Nassir Little who then ended up at UNC. As we know this is not just a Adidas problem. Also in light of that makes Roy’s comments about being dumbfounded even more laughable.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Many of the things today have been recorded phone calls and text messages. So, pretty believable it seems.
Interesting. I’m just wondering how credible he will be, there’s a lot going on with this guy
Just reading all the stuff he’s done was pretty crazy. Then find out where he lives is within 30 minutes of my hometown.
My good friend that is connected with Brewster Academy knows TJ, had some unflattering things to say about him and his ‘ways’.
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BShark said:
Things are heating up as expected.
Anything good?
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@BeddieKU23 Yea I don’t know the credibility. But at this point, they have an Adidas board member emailing him and Gatto and basically saying do whatever you have to.
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Woodrow said:
Today it was shown or said that Arizona offered $150,000 for Nassir Little who then ended up at UNC. As we know this is not just a Adidas problem. Also in light of that makes Roy’s comments about being dumbfounded even more laughable.
Only UK hillbillies think Nike isn’t involved because loool
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@BeddieKU23 Summary so far:
- Nas Little offered $150k to go to Arizona. Laranaga (supposedly) said they wanted him at Miami, so they ponied up.
- Delivered $40k in cash to NC State Assistant Coach in person.
- Paid $15k to a Deandre Ayton relative to give to Deandre as a sweetener trying to sway him to Adidas.
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So what are the chances Self gets out of today’s testimony without any bombshell allegations against him?
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Summary so far:
- Nas Little offered $150k to go to Arizona. Laranaga (supposedly) said they wanted him at Miami, so they ponied up.
- Delivered $40k in cash to NC State Assistant Coach in person.
- Paid $15k to a Deandre Ayton relative to give to Deandre as a sweetener trying to sway him to Adidas.
Thanks. All this just what TJ is saying or actual evidence supplied in each case?
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BeddieKU23 said:
So what are the chances Self gets out of today’s testimony without any bombshell allegations against him?
Looking good so far tbh
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
So what are the chances Self gets out of today’s testimony without any bombshell allegations against him?
Looking good so far tbh
Yeah but they haven’t gotten to Silvio, Preston’s KU/Adidas involvment yet either it looks. Right?
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@BeddieKU23 Correct. Next update should come around noon when the court goes to lunch break.
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Gassnola testified that SDS was paid $60,000 by a Maryland booster and needed to pay it back in order to go to KU. Gassnola offered $20,000 to help but said he never paid it. Did pay him $2500 on a separate issue.
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Gassnola began making payments to Billy’s Mom in the fall of 2016. 4 different wire transfers equaling $90,000.
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Gassnola was adamant that nobody on the KU staff knew about payments.
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https://twitter.com/adamzagoria/status/1050429179920044032?s=21
Wow. Preston’s mom wanted Gassnola to tell people they were intimate to justify payments!
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Obama towling off dot jpeg
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Woodrow said:
Gassnola was adamant that nobody on the KU staff knew about payments.
Good news
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BeddieKU23 said:
Woodrow said:
Gassnola was adamant that nobody on the KU staff knew about payments.
Good news
Bulletproof Bill. Whewww
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Woodrow said:
Gassnola testified that SDS was paid $60,000 by a Maryland booster and needed to pay it back in order to go to KU. Gassnola offered $20,000 to help but said he never paid it. Did pay him $2500 on a separate issue.
Payed Fenny?
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Looks like we may have gotten past the worst of it. And came out looking pretty damn clean… Of course, 11 days still left and I don’t want to speak too soon.
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Imagine being a Maryland fan that thinks Bruno wasn’t paid.
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BShark said:
Imagine being a Maryland fan that thinks Bruno wasn’t paid.
Jeff about to go nuclear on KU over it lol
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Sounds like Nicole Player Billy’s mom is a really piece of work. Also scum.
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Woodrow said:
Sounds like Nicole Player Billy’s mom is a really piece of work. Also scum.
Her son is Jesus so yeah this isn’t groundbreaking.
Why we ever recruited him to begin with is really the bigger problem. His issues were well known
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So Gassnola says he never gave 20k to Fenny but gave him 2500 for online courses. Also says none of this was discussed with KU coaches. Interesting stuff
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@BeddieKU23 He doesn’t come here if Ayton doesn’t get a shit ton of cash to go to Arizona.
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@BeddieKU23 Of course we would still be in the same boat if we landed Ayton apparently.
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Woodrow said:
Sounds like Nicole Player Billy’s mom is a really piece of work. Also scum.
Well, yeah lol.
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But $2,500 sure seems like we could get out of that one. 3 game suspension lol. Whatever Sexton got.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Of course we would still be in the same boat if we landed Ayton apparently.
Yep. Would prob have a title tho.
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Kcmatt7 said:
But $2,500 sure seems like we could get out of that one. 3 game suspension lol. Whatever Sexton got.
Did the 2500 help him become eligible academically. Could be a bigger issue?? Honestly don’t know
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Of course we would still be in the same boat if we landed Ayton apparently.
Yep. Would prob have a title tho.
Don’t even let me start thinking about that lol.
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Kcmatt7 said:
But $2,500 sure seems like we could get out of that one. 3 game suspension lol. Whatever Sexton got.
Collin on the payroll Sexton no less loool
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Of course we would still be in the same boat if we landed Ayton apparently.
While true we were the only real blue blood to sniff around his recruitment for years. How we didn’t take the high road on his issues is beyond me. Why were other coaches smarter?
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Dan Wolken from the USA Today is going in on Self. I guess I fail to understand why… Seems to me Self and KU so far look fine.
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Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Of course we would still be in the same boat if we landed Ayton apparently.
Yep. Would prob have a title tho.
Don’t even let me start thinking about that lol.
I have almost no doubt. Imagine swapping doke and Ayton. Playing full tilt.
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Woodrow said:
Dan Wolken from the USA Today is going in on Self. I guess I fail to understand why… Seems to me Self and KU so far look fine.
Wolken is a turd
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@BeddieKU23 I think Bill just recruits who he likes, period. And has faith in his staff that they won’t do anything shady so that nothing falls back on them regardless of how idiotic parents and family can be.
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@BShark It is like he doesn’t understand that Preston never played.
