KU-OU: Self runs some double high post early
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Newman and Vick have been poor
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We got dominated today. Just accept.
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Oh, the humanity!!
The Hindenhawk!!!
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Defense wasn’t bad most of the game, OSU just made a lot of contested shots. This is also probably the worst rebounding game of the year as well.
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There is always one bad loss to a mediocre team each season!!
But at home???
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Garrett should have played more than Vick did today. Vick needs to ride the pine.
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Perfect storm good for OSU, perfect storm bad for KU.
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-8 with 3 and change.
They have 8 fouls and we only have 3!
We could still do this!!
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Fouls to give. Gotta make shots NOW
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Looks bleak
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Carroll has outplayed Devonte today
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-6
33 to go
Believe
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betterfireE said:
Carroll has outplayed Devonte today
Not really.
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Both teams are hitting everything lately.
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So close to a steal there.
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@BShark Disagree
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Look at the stat lines.
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And just in general. To me Smith has been better than Carroll.
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Carroll looks speedier than our entire team today.
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Can’t wait to play on the road.
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How do you end the streak in Morgantown and lose at home to OSU?
This was a bad loss.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 That is confounding. Winning at WVU and then losing at home to a 3 conference win team. Hard to figure.
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@JayHawkFanToo lol Thanks Jessie Newell for giving teams the formula to beat us (make open threes and play hard against our lazy ass at home).
Someone else mentioned that big guys don’t get foul calls. Really showed up today with Doke getting very few calls. Their big should have fouled out long ago.
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@betterfireE Yeah that was me. It’s just how basketball works sadly enough.
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Sometimes prayers are answered, other times a lesson is dispensed.
DONT GET THEE DOWN > 15 AND EXPECT THE BUILDING TO BAIL YOU OUT EVERYTIME.
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Ha, Missouri’s clocks don’t work. Makes feel better, at least a little bit anyways!
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We need Jess to encode these messages until after the season
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Just seeing UK there and not us cheers me up
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We’ve kind of known all year our team might not be up to snuff particularly when the Preston thing reared its’ ugly head, so a loss like this just doesn’t bother me that much. We’re going to enter the dance as a 2-4 seed and in some ways, it might be a little freeing without all of that pressure as the #1 and all of our failures in recent years as a #1 seed.
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Someone needs to start a thread about Vick… Really disappointing past couple of seasons for him.
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Agreed. The team is still a shoestring Operation and there will be upsets. A tie is as good as an outright for 14.
We are still tied for first.
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I think we are witnessing a seismic paradigm shift! Every year we hear AFH 6th man; conference streak only because KU defends at home; conference streak only because other teams implode; blah, blah, blah…
Perhaps the basketball gods are tired of hearing the rationalizations for 13 straight too and are requiring this group to win on foreign soil to remove all doubt.
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Vick was super TIL mid January, or so.
He is now outside his length of season envelope. Never started this many games. Body saying it over.
And he is being frustrated by Self running so much to Newman.
Vick is both injured and in a funk and struggling with playing through and not being allowed to shoot out of his slump.
He will break out, but he is also fighting inner demons that resurface in bad times.
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@CRH107 Well, they will have to now!
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Graham said they didn’t warm-up today. Is that typical??
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@CRH107 they didn’t warm up as they normally do
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Ahhh…Thank you @Crimsonorblue22
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We should play all our home games at Bramlage or the WVU Coliseum, at least we have a 100% win percentage there this year.
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@betterfireE KU’s perimeter defense wasn’t horrible for the most part today. OSU just flat out made a lot of tough shots. Nothing you can do when a team is hitting 3’s with hands in their faces. The defensive rebounding and KU’s ice cold shooting early on is what doomed them more than anything else.
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Seems as though we rarely see all 5 starters fully engaged at any one juncture. Vick the SpiderMan, now a junior, has not yet developed steady handles to dribble into traffic. Sneaky quick, he is polar opposite to Frank Mason and Josh Jackson in steel determination and toughness. Maybe an hour per week in a boxing ring might help toughen him to develop purposeful intent?
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@REHawk Humph, REHawk. A day later now, and no response to your post. I presume that fella posters must think that LaGerald is already tough enough, probably just on a month long unlucky streak. Coaching staff must feel that Vick can persevere and work his way through such malaise. A la Malik. Cundiff will have to wait for some guard’s injury to get meaningful replacement minutes of action. Fans must absorb the truth, either that Vick does exciting positive stuff in practice, or that Cundiff is just not yet ready…or competent.
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@REHawk I have no answer! I’d sit him
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Since a good conference opener against Texas, Vick has avg. 7.2 pts, 3.7 rebounds, 1.2 assists, and 1.8 turnovers a game. Basically a big nothing.
The best I can come up with is girlfriend issues to explain why a guy drops off so much.
Here’s a flyer … he took 55 shots in a three game stretch vs. Syracuse, Washington, and ASU. He scored 20, 28, 25. Pretty good efficiency shooting. But I wonder if with KU losing 2 of those 3 (losing the last 2) if there was some conversation about his scoring not leading to wins. The next game he only shot 9 times. I don’t know. Grasping for straws here.
Truly a surprise to me. I was very much on the Vick bandwagon, thinking he might lead us in scoring this season. The flip in the calendar year has been like night and day.
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@REHawk A month long “unlucky” streak??? Not sure how you think luck factors in? As HEM notes, he’s averaged just 7ppg over the last 9 games. And, he hasn’t really been contributing much elsewhere. It does raise the question again re Cunliffe. You say he isn’t ready or competent. He has some size and athleticism. He averaged 10ppg at ASU as a freshmen. He’s been in our system for a year+. He’s already demonstrated he can play at the D-1 level. We recruited him. I think it may be an attitude problem or something about his game that sticks in Self’s craw. He has shown a quick trigger and Self has yanked him immediately after quick shots or after mistakes. Clearly has a very short or no leash. But, given Vick’s disappearing act, I would think it worth a shot to give Cunliffe some court time, if just to send the signal that if one of the erstwhile starters doesn’t have their head in the game, they can expect bench time…
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@DCHawker why not Marcus?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Doesn’t Marcus get a lot more time to prove himself than Cunliffe?
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@wissox I think he’s proven himself, he’s been doing better lately.
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@wissox I saw enough of Cunliffe
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@Crimsonorblue22 I thought you were saying that Garrett deserves more time to prove himself with your “why not Marcus” comment. I agree, he holds his own, but I wouldn’t mind seeing some more Cunliffe.
