Vick and Josh



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    I REALLY enjoyed your last post!



  • @JayHawkFanToo Several of Erich Fromm’s other books are very instructive in our current times. Especially Escape From Freedom, The Sane Society, and The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness. Thanks for the reminder.



  • @DanR

    Thank you. Finally we have some real information. with your first hand information, now we know the team did not get to the dorm until close to 11:00 PM or well after the incident was reported. Why reporters did not bother do do this simple check is beyond me…probably creating alternate facts.



  • @drgnslayr @mayjay

    Thanks. We all need from time to time to sit back and look at the entire picture rather than look at it through the narrow opening of our own biases.



  • @JayHawkFanToo said:

    “There is perhaps no phenomenon which contains so much destructive feeling as ‘moral indignation,’ which permits envy or hate to be acted out under the guise of virtue.”

    How true. great post.



  • @JayHawkFanToo said:

    There is no question that the KC Start does not like KU, ever since Joe Posnanski left the paper in 2009 the paper has not had a single sports writer of his stature or substance.

    Since I don’t live in the area I don’t know much about the Star. But doesn’t Jesse Newell working there give some semblance of a pro ku influence there?



  • @wissox Maybe some but he’s not the editor that would have rank in a yay or nay call on a copy. The Star ⭐️ has been in the trash for decades with high costs, poor quality & dwindling readership. The entire KC metro 🚋 is also very small compared to other cities. Maybe 2 million combined for both states & all burbs. Now enter the computer news age & print newspapers are facing extinction. Crap 💩 like they’re printing now is just expediting the phenomenon It’s kinda sad to some "more experienced " of us who cut our teeth on reading 📖 papers growing up, but WTH that’s how it goes, first your money 💰 then your clothes…



  • @globaljaybird I’ve never understood why newspapers put their content on line for free. Cheapskates like me will take full advantage of that.



  • @JayHawkFanToo That is a brilliant and telling quote from Erich Fromm. It explains much of what we see.

    Why don’t reporters bother to report all the facts? It’s because they have their own little biases and motivations. It’s just like the newspaper as whole. Look at the front page each day. It’s a constant barrage of the newspaper’s agenda – see today’s front page as another example.

    In the sports page, the agenda now is to keep the KU story line going forward.

    Personally, I’m disappointed in Jesse Newell. His name was attached to some of these stories.

    Now, the Star’s editorial board is at it LINK.

    As I said a fews days ago, the knives come out in these situations.

    We have to remember how some reporters get their job satisfaction. Some seek to destroy lives. One, like Laura Bauer a the Star, falls in to the category of pushing to harm lives of those she “reports” on. I mentioned the Tyreek Hill garbage.

    We should be mindful of that here. With the KC Star editorial, they are coming after Bill Self. The knives are out.

    And for pathetic reporters and editorial boards, what greater satisfaction could they get than to tear down a great man like Bill Self?



  • @wissox The McClatchy papers-Star, Wichita Eagle, etc., limit free content to an IP address to a specific count monthly then want you to ante up after that. For many years all I have looked at are the obituaries & sometimes still do. but it costs a small fortune to get one of any size printed anymore there re fewer & fewer included every day. When we put Dad’s in there about 1 1/2 years ago it cost $200 for one very small 4 sentence paragraph to run one day.



  • @HighEliteMajor I saw that late last night but thought it was too crappy to put the link out here - That’s what they want, people to read it. They very well may be shooting their KUHoops page dead in the water. Far as I’m concerned it is, Newell, Bedore, whoever… They sure as hell don’t have anything like that dedicated to mu hoops LOL !!



  • @globaljaybird tcj is certainly impressing me!



  • @Crimsonorblue22 They’re an old school paper & the McClatcheys are bungfodder. You makin the trip today ?



  • @globaljaybird here!



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Enjoy but drive safe. Is that abt 200 mi roundtrip or more?



  • @globaljaybird about a 2 hr 40 min dr. Going home afterwardsIMG_2856.JPG



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Livin the dream… good for you! Rio good while you’re gone?



  • @Crimsonorblue22 long haul like from here at the Rock back to KC… abt 190 mi ea way



  • @globaljaybird he’s w/me! One puzzle piece missing🤔



  • @Crimsonorblue22 and that would be?



  • @globaljaybird 🐶



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Rascal & I just had a walk about & is chilly at 32 deg. 60 tomorrow then 70 Mon & Tues. Not much winter ❄️ here at all. Yeaaah! Don’t miss it a bit.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    I fully agree with your assessment. True journalists are now the exception when once they were the rule, this why most people now take the news with a grain of salt knowing that sensationalism and sound bites have taken the place of actual reporting. Our last election cycle and ensuing coverage showed and continues to show how low journalism has sunk…at least it did to me.

    Corporate agendas rule the content of the news cycle and individual reports either toe the line or find themselves out of a job. Of all people, Jay Bilas had a very good summary of the KU issues during Game Day separating fact from fiction and making sure to point out that the individual issues are not related. The KC Star reporters should watch the video and learn how it should be done.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    Now, the Star’s editorial board is at it LINK.

    I just read the link you posted and that editorial goes beyond any limit and probably into the realm of libel. The information they present is factually incorrect and they blatantly lied.

    For example, this is what the editorial said:

    "t’s hard to believe that Self really had not “been made aware of anything.” But if that’s the case, maybe he should check in with Jim Marchiony, the KU spokesman who as The Star reported on Thursday, said school officials did know that Vick and star freshman Josh Jackson were involved in the investigation into the December report of vandalism, which occurred outside a Lawrence bar."

    But this is NOT what Marchiony actually said as reported by the KC Star itself:

    The Star emailed questions regarding the vandalism investigation to Jim Marchiony, KU’s associate athletic director for public affairs.

    "We are aware of the incident," Marchiony replied. "And we are aware of the investigation."

    Marchiony referred a question about whether the university has investigated the reported vandalism, or will, to the school’s public affairs office.

    Marchiony never said that he knew that Vick and Jackson were involved, this is just a lie, because the Lawrence Police Department itself has indicated they do not have any person of interest in that investigation. so it would be impossible for Marchiony to name players when the Police Department itself does not have any person of interest.

    And this is just an example of the many not only misleading but patently false statements in the editorial. Frankly, it is a sad day for journalism and I would love to see Coach Self to “pull a Trump” during the next press conference and call the KC Star “Fake News.”



  • @wissox

    Unfortunately it does not work this way, you either toe the corporate line or you are gone. This is true for most business where you do what you are assigned to do regardless of what you think or else you find yourself unemployed…however, most corporations are not in the business of keeping people informed and having the readers’ trust.


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